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Adam Langerman

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What is it?
« on: March 12, 2010, 09:43:48 PM »

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Re: What is it?
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2010, 09:47:19 PM »
Those specs look like another R....Oh boy  ;)

"1903 Herreshoff said boat. The inside has received about $40,000 of new hardwood alone. Everything is there and just needs the right person to finish the project to have her sailing again. Currently I am willing to accept offers and I will reposting with better pictures over the next few days. Registered measurements 39.5 length, 9.8 beam, 6 draft and 53ft Sloop Single Mast. "Sally Ran" Call Mike after 5pm PST for more info 619-717-4693 "

Could she be Rugosa # 608....Specs fit.....Would be a new find.
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Re: What is it?
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2010, 10:45:21 PM »
I've sent him an E-mail - and I'll give the guy a call.

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Re: What is it?
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2010, 01:09:44 AM »
I have sent him an email as well. 

Adam ... I'll let you make the phone call.

Based on the info I got back, I have my suspicions about the claim.  There doesn't seem to be anything in the record from the 1903 timeframe with those specs.

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Re: What is it?
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2010, 04:18:22 AM »
Really - Am I reading it wrong - 608 seemed to be dead on - with the exception of LOA which is not listed in the registry. His friend said he has the hull #....we shall see....

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Re: What is it?
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2010, 11:25:03 AM »
You are right about 608 ... I don't know how I missed it.  I don't have LOA in the registry because that info is not in the builder's record.  But 39 feels reasonable for a 29-foot WL.  Ryan told you that Mike has the hull plate?
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Re: What is it?
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2010, 09:05:55 AM »
said he has the hull number - i assume that means the plate - we shall see...:-)

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Re: What is it?
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2010, 02:10:06 PM »
Ryan sent me as bunch of pics - in one is a hull documentation Number (#543013). Not much else...My guess is this is what he meant by a "Hull #". Didn't have time to call Mike - but will try today. Here is the info:

http://www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1/CoastGuard/VesselByID.html

I'll post some Pics for those of you that know more on Herreshoff construction then I....

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Re: What is it?
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2010, 03:14:37 PM »
Here is a link to the Pics....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11118614@N06/sets/72157623624638044/

Maybe those with a bit more construction knowledge can comment....
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Re: What is it?
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2010, 07:50:58 PM »
Nice work Adam! 

Rgarding this pic:


At first glance I say no way, but with a little imagination I would say the only way this is RUGOSA is if the ~1ft sheer plank was added to increase freeboard when the deck and cabin top were replaced.  I can't tell from the interior pics where that sheer plank actually fits into the clamp  / deck frames.  The knees and hull strap look HMCo.

Keep in mind RUGOSA was based on the same model as BAMBINO, TRIVIA, and NELLIE.


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Re: What is it?
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2010, 07:59:43 PM »
Adam - I thought the same on that Sheer Plank - definately added... Thought the cabin top might have been raised as well. Looks to me she needs significant work though...

if it turns out to be her maybe she would be of value to a restorer - especially since the others all have new life.

BTW, I assume Bambino was the first - are there others based on this model?

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Re: What is it?
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2010, 08:15:15 PM »
I take it back - AZOR appears to have been the first from this model. I notice they are all significantly different size - and don't all appear to be "scaled" up (or down) as I would expect if they were built to the same model....
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Re: What is it?
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2010, 03:37:53 AM »
Thanks for posting the rest of the pictures. It's hard to figure out her sheer clamp. That board with the numbers on it
sure looks like one, yet she also has hanging knees and what appear to be short pieces of clamp between them In other
photos, it's hard to see any clamp at all, although they well could be hidden. Most Herreshoff boats did have sheer clamps,
although Clara has all hanging knees, but correct me if I'm wrong, I think Clara has knees at every frame, unlike this boat.

However, I noticed something that I think is very telling - the photo of the number shows a section of what appears
to be non-ferrous hull strapping. It's so tied into the hull that it's virtually certain to be original - and I believe almost
no one besides Herreshoff used this system.

Her general shape is the same as Trivia, Nellie, etc, more like the 12 family than the 15.

Personally, based on the strapping I do think she is a Herreshoff boat. Anybody going to san Diego?


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Re: What is it?
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2010, 11:53:42 AM »
Nice work, Bill.  One of us will call the owner in the next few days, I should think.  If you look up the Coast Guard documentation number
all you can find is that prior to 1987 she was named PRIDEWIND and owned by Richard Snow.

-Steve

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Re: What is it?
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2010, 01:35:31 PM »
Well I promise to call him - I didn't get a chance again last night. It just so happends I have to call Mike after 8pm EST (west coast) and that corresponds to Baby feeding - and that is "my" scheduled event - which means I am not doing a good job of time management  ;)

I will see what I can do today.