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Re: Herreshoff Drawings
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2011, 11:09:24 AM »
>Am I right in thinking that the 'UNIDENTIFIED; 72 ft. New York Yacht Club 50;
>Design #711' could be very similar to Spartan?

Yes, and no.

Yes, the hull will be identical to Spartan.

No, the rig is very likely a later conversion to either yawl or Marconi rig.

Steve

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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2011, 01:53:09 PM »
SPARTAN is the only known remaining NY50.  A few pieces of hardware from PLEIONE, salvaged by Mystic before she was scuttled, were used in the restoration of SPARTAN.  BARBARA was known to be around as late as the 1980's.  She is believed to be be gone now, though there are those that believe she may be extant.

The model used to build the NY50s was also used to build an R-Boat named SCAPA. 

Jon Brooks

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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2011, 11:58:57 PM »
My dad visited PLEIONE when it was tied up alongside Columbia just after the 1958 America's Cup races.  Everybody remarked on how the NY50 class would have made a much better Cup boat then the 12 meter, and how stunning PLEIONE was compared to the Columbia.

Not long after PLEIONE was taken out and scuttled at the wishes of her owner.

Jon  8)

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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2011, 01:16:06 PM »
I dont think Spartan is the last of the NY50`s. There is one on the left coast named Rowdy.

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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2011, 07:59:52 PM »
Are you sure about ROWDY?

I know there was a NY 40 on the West Coast named ROWDY a few years back, but she is now racing (and winning) in the classic yacht circuit on the Med.  Is there any chance you have these confused?  If not, I would love to get more details about the NY50.

Thanks.

-Steve

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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2011, 04:09:08 PM »
April 2011 Edition of WoodenBoat magazine has article by Maynard Bray featuring the restoration of NY 50 Spartan.  pp58-67.  Including a description of what happens when modern foils and marconi rig meets up with the Herreshoff model and Gaff rig.

 

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« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2014, 05:30:04 AM »
Regarding Pleione:   Sometime around 1967-71 I was at US Submarine School and later based out of Groton/New London on Submarines. Having a strong interest in boats and sailing I became aware of Mystic Seaport and the shore between Westerly and Old LYme.   Back in those days I could get an afternoon off and would head over to Jamestown, RI, where one could catch the ferry to Newport (no bridge yet!)  Of course the draw was that on those summer days in the passage to Newport we would get up close and personal  views of the 12's practicing for the America's Cup........But one day I was kicking around the Mystic shipyard (I think-first one S of the Rt 1 bridge on the East/Stonington side)  I was surprised to find the largest piece of lead I had ever seen-sitting in the launching cradle was a ballast keel so big I thought "where could this have come from?"  Fresh from the recent 12 meter activity over in Newport I could only think of one of them!   Then I remembered that Pleione was up the river at the Seaport.   (Of course Vayu  nee Doris was across the river!) So I ran on up to the Seaport and being after hours (and I was  a member!), I jumped the fence.   There alongside the south bulkhead was Pleione afloat.  Her deck structures and hatches had been cutout of the deck and were lying on the lawn.   Her bilges were freshly filled with concrete .   The last 2 feet of the boat, transom and all had been sawn off and , like a tombstone, lay there with the name Plieone visible.     That transom ended up in the NYYC Clubhouse at the Seaport.  Her mainmast for a time became the flagpole just North of Cottrell's lumber yard on the East bank of the river.  A very sad story/  JC

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« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2014, 08:09:22 PM »
Fascinating!

Thanks for sharing!