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Title: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Steve on November 17, 2009, 05:08:46 PM: Herreshoff Designs, the firm of Halsey Herreshoff and forum member Adam Langerman, is collaborating with builder Brion Rieff to build 3 new interpretations of NGH's Alerion III. Congratulations, Adam!

The press release: http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/forum/images/Herreshoff Designs Press Release Nov 16 2009.pdf (http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/forum/images/Herreshoff Designs Press Release Nov 16 2009.pdf)

And the boat:

(http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/forum/images/BRI_07821.JPG)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam on November 17, 2009, 05:56:45 PM: Very nice - there are a few "new" things on the site - take the making of wood blocks and the "Herreshoff 20" - using NGH's Model 204. Adam L., was 204 never produced by HMCo.? She reminds me a a lot of the Sidney designed Herreshoff Gemini built by CCSB. Do you know if Sidney based his design on the same model #204?

See: http://www.capecodshipbuilding.com/site/specsheets/goldeneye.pdf
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Steve on November 17, 2009, 06:28:33 PM: Adam: I believe model 204 was used for FANO, hull number 1133.
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam on November 17, 2009, 07:53:44 PM: Wow - that is very cool - thanks Steve. So #204 is the basis for a whole bunch of designs out there. I've seen that model used for boats from 15' to 26'. Very interesting!
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam Langerman on November 17, 2009, 09:48:26 PM: Thanks Steve! We're excited about this project and the opportunity to work with Brion again.

Yes, 204 is a nice shape and we've had some interest in an open boat of this size. FANO was built as an 'improved 12.5', but used a transom hung rudder instead of including the aft overhang in the model. The sail plan in our rendering is from an NGH sketch proportioned slightly to fit this length boat.
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: HerreshoffHistory on November 18, 2009, 07:28:53 PM: Adam, I wonder if you could post a photo of Fano? I have never seen one. Also, which plan was she built from? I only see four plans which reference her, and two of those are missing at M.I.T., leaving only a sail cutting plan and a somewhat strange rudder detail plan. Strange, because the title refers to a 11'-4" l.w.l. sail boat, while Fano was 14' LWL?
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam Langerman on November 18, 2009, 08:37:16 PM: I haven't come across and pictures of FANO either. A blueprint of the construction drawing and the sail plan are part of the model room collection inventory.
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: HerreshoffHistory on November 18, 2009, 10:50:20 PM: Ah, thanks! And has the "Rudder for 11'-4" l.w.l. Sail boat" plan at MIT (64-108) which references #1133s Fano anything to do with her?
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Jon Brooks on December 19, 2009, 04:56:53 PM: I remember seeing one of these getting finished in one of the shops in Bristol back in the late 70's or early 80's. One of the things that struck me was how well finished they appeared. It was as if Herreshoff workers picked up their tool and went back to work after a 40 year hiatus. Nice looking boats. I wonder if you could get a more "classic" rig and varnished spars?

Jon 8)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam Langerman on December 19, 2009, 06:48:33 PM: Quote from: Jon Brooks on December 19, 2009, 04:56:53 PM
I wonder if you could get a more "classic" rig and varnished spars?

Jon 8)

Absolutely.
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam Langerman on February 17, 2010, 03:39:33 PM: First hull all glued up!

(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs175.snc3/20234_1314735541018_1009563903_2038721_2619061_n.jpg)

Inside:
(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs202.snc3/20934_1317091519916_1009563903_2044879_4732859_n.jpg)

(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs296.ash1/22334_1304686249792_1009563903_2014806_7749666_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam on February 17, 2010, 05:09:33 PM: Wow... What a beauty...If only......How’s this for a Universal rule: New baby on way = No disposable income / (Certain Death (pain^3)) .... Where “Certain Death = WIFE”….

Sigh….
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam Langerman on February 26, 2010, 08:47:31 PM: Off the molds:

(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs394.snc3/24005_1324741631164_1009563903_2063990_237546_n.jpg)

(http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs394.snc3/24005_1324741231154_1009563903_2063987_145278_n.jpg)

(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs434.ash1/24005_1324746711291_1009563903_2063998_4317475_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Steve on February 27, 2010, 01:26:44 PM: Nice: That shot of the transom shows some well-done carpentry. How did you get the top shot ... through a keyhole?
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam Langerman on February 27, 2010, 02:59:48 PM: Yes, the work is excellent. I don't know how they do it.

Fish-eye lens. Much fun.
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam Langerman on March 17, 2010, 12:39:05 AM: Flipped!

(http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs363.snc3/23458_1340426903286_1009563903_2101743_4508737_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Steve on March 17, 2010, 12:59:23 AM: Lookin' Good
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam Langerman on March 19, 2010, 02:14:02 AM: Color scheme for hull #1: What do you think?
(http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs414.snc3/24988_1342137306045_1009563903_2104655_4015505_n.jpg)

And some blocks heading out the door next week....
(http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs414.snc3/24988_1342145826258_1009563903_2104731_1599633_n.jpg)

(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs454.ash1/24988_1342145866259_1009563903_2104732_4438899_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Steve on March 19, 2010, 11:22:35 AM: I love the color scheme.

Those blocks are gorgeous too ... where are they going ?
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam Langerman on March 19, 2010, 03:15:56 PM: France - ELEONORA will have all Herreshoff Blocks once these are installed.
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam on March 19, 2010, 03:25:09 PM: Is it true NGH once said "there are only two colors to paint a boat - White and Black - and only a damn fool paints a boat black." ?

I like it though.... ;D
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam Langerman on June 24, 2010, 09:27:30 PM: The owner is aware of the above quote. It didn't bother him though...

I should have some launch pictures mid-July!

#2 and #3 are in the works!

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs508.snc3/26679_1430880004557_1009563903_2337042_2475936_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Steve on June 24, 2010, 10:24:48 PM: Two more in the hopper ... you guys are busy.
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam on June 24, 2010, 11:00:47 PM: What is the build time to new? That seemed awfully fast! Will she be seen at the regatta?
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam Langerman on June 30, 2010, 02:36:37 PM: Right now build time is about 5 months. Hoping to get it down to 20 weeks by hull #3. The Herreshoff Regatta is a question mark right now. She will definitely be at the Newport Boat Show, but hopefully will make it to Narragansett Bay before then as well.

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs064.snc4/34585_1435824128157_1009563903_2351162_1552195_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs024.ash2/34585_1435824208159_1009563903_2351164_1414218_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs072.ash2/36954_1435824448165_1009563903_2351165_8284447_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam on June 30, 2010, 03:11:20 PM: 5 months/20 weeks seems amazingly fast for a wood hull - is it significantly less for a fiberglass version? I can't imagine so.

Beautiful bronze hardware - Reineck?

Are 1-3 sold or are they being done on speculation?

If I wear my long overcoat, sunglasses and Groucho 'stash, can I pose as a perspective buyer and get a sail?
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam Langerman on June 30, 2010, 03:28:00 PM: You would be surprised how fast the cold-molded hull goes together. The largest difference is in the fairing / finishing time. For my money the difference in finished product is worth so much more than any difference in labor time. I spent a few thousand miles sailing some very high-end composite (carbon fiber and fiberglass) yachts this winter and spring and the experience simply did not compare to being on a cold-molded or plank-on-frame boat.

Yes, J.M. Rieneck hardware.

#1 and #2 are sold, #3 will be on the boat show circuit next winter (unless it sells this summer, in which case #4 will be on the show circuit)

Adam: you're welcome to sail anytime! No overcoat required...
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam Langerman on June 30, 2010, 03:36:56 PM: (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs322.ash1/28255_1435858289011_1009563903_2351229_6556572_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs292.snc3/28255_1435858249010_1009563903_2351228_912576_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam on June 30, 2010, 04:25:37 PM: Gorgeous....

BTW - that double ender in the background - what is she?
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Jon Brooks on July 03, 2010, 05:52:47 PM: Stunning!

Jon 8)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam Langerman on August 09, 2010, 03:52:12 PM: ALERA is sailing!

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs138.ash2/40249_109461759109246_102250619830360_70353_3934921_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs252.snc4/39925_109461779109244_102250619830360_70356_3652488_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs272.snc4/39925_109461785775910_102250619830360_70358_361151_n.jpg)

There is a short video here: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1475102750098 (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1475102750098)

I'll have more detail pictures later this week.
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Steve on August 09, 2010, 05:42:24 PM: That is one pretty boat !

Congrats!
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam on August 09, 2010, 05:54:19 PM: The color of the deck is stunning...very - well - 'rich'... A real Beauty.
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam Langerman on August 12, 2010, 05:47:00 PM: Sailed ALERA yesterday. Details are amazing. Brion has out done himself again! And she sails as good as she looks! A few more pictures:

Main sheet control:

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs284.snc4/40524_110264845695604_102250619830360_75881_3998346_n.jpg)

Reineck cam cleats:

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs217.snc4/39182_110266019028820_102250619830360_75893_4211589_n.jpg)

Interior paneling:

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs069.ash2/36821_110265262362229_102250619830360_75890_4097825_n.jpg)

Sailing:

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs280.snc4/40315_110264862362269_102250619830360_75883_8338171_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs153.ash2/40993_110264949028927_102250619830360_75889_5656372_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs268.snc4/39715_110264925695596_102250619830360_75887_1177521_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs293.snc4/40993_110264945695594_102250619830360_75888_2108298_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on October 23, 2011, 02:18:48 PM: Does anyone know the location of this boat ? It was located in Waukegan, IL in May 2010.
26' Proper Yachts Hereshoff Alerion 26
•Boat Name: Grace
•Year: 2001
•Classically beautiful day sailor/overnighter. A direct decendent of Capt. Nat Herreshoffs own 1912 design.

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/0/9/3/0/2093055_1.jpg?1248113088000)

Builder/Designer
Builder: Herreshoff Designer: Halsey Herreshoff

Dimensions
LOA: 26' LWL: 20' Beam: 7'2
Displacement: 4800 Draft: 3'7 Bridge Clearance: 36'3
Ballast: 2500

Engine
Engine(s): 1 x Yanmar Engine(s) HP: 9.1 Engine Model: 1GM

Tankage
Fuel: 6 Water: 12
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on October 23, 2011, 02:20:56 PM: cont.
(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/0/9/3/0/2093055_2.jpg?1247506595000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Jon Brooks on October 24, 2011, 12:33:29 AM: I don't know where she is, but I personally believe that Halsey's Alerion is quite possibly one of the prettiest boats ever designed.

Jon 8)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on October 24, 2011, 03:00:31 AM: (http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/0/9/3/0/2093055_3.jpg?1248113159000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Robert (Alerion Sailor) on October 26, 2011, 02:53:15 PM: They are beautiful boats, that is for sure.
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam Langerman on October 26, 2011, 10:47:24 PM: Latest Herreshoff Alerion 26 to splash:

(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/305883_286416334720215_262482377113611_1124287_1635995017_n.jpgc)

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/317442_286417324720116_262482377113611_1124289_794035770_n.jpg)

(http://hphotos-iad1.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/312926_286417748053407_262482377113611_1124291_1741936499_n.jpg)

www.herreshoffdesigns.com
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on October 29, 2011, 03:26:36 AM: 1977 26' Alerion Class Sloop ......
•Boat Name: EAGLE .....
•Located in East Norwalk, CT

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/1/3/1/5/2131545_1.jpg?1255198620000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/1/3/1/5/2131545_2.jpg?1255198620000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/1/3/1/5/2131545_3.jpg?1255198621000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/1/3/1/5/2131545_4.jpg?1255198621000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/1/3/1/5/2131545_5.jpg?1255198621000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/1/3/1/5/2131545_6.jpg?1255446999000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/1/3/1/5/2131545_7.jpg?1255446999000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on November 09, 2011, 03:02:56 AM: •Boat Name: WOODWIND
•Year: 2004....... •Located in Eastern Long Island, NY
(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/6/1/7/1/1617165_15.jpg?1164911107000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/6/1/7/1/1617165_8.jpg?1161891998000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/6/1/7/1/1617165_9.jpg?1164222322000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/6/1/7/1/1617165_10.jpg?1164222385000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/6/1/7/1/1617165_1.jpg?1161891491000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/6/1/7/1/1617165_2.jpg?1161891592000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/6/1/7/1/1617165_3.jpg?1161891736000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on November 15, 2011, 01:31:10 PM: 26' Herreshoff Alerion
•Boat Name: Lulie
•Year: 2001
•Located in Point Pleasant, NJ

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/7/3/4/1173467_2.jpg?1069355725000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/7/3/4/1173467_3.jpg?1069356866000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/7/3/4/1173467_4.jpg?1069356867000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/7/3/4/1173467_1.jpg?1069262425000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on November 15, 2011, 01:42:28 PM: cont....

Builder/Designer

Builder: Proper Yachts/Carroll Marine

Designer: Nathanael & Halsey Herreshoff

Dimensions
LOA: 26' LWL: 20' Beam: 7"2"
Displacement: 4800 lbs. Draft: 3' 7" Bridge Clearance: 36' 3"
Ballast: 2500 lbs.

Engine(s): Yanmar Engine(s) HP: 9 HP Engine Model: 1 GM

Fuel: 6 gal. Water: 12 gal

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/7/3/4/1173467_6.jpg?1069356870000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/7/3/4/1173467_7.jpg?1069358581000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/7/3/4/1173467_5.jpg?1069356868000)

it looks like this Alerion 26 was previous named "SAGE" and is now ''Lulie''.... ? Adam are these two differance boats or the same ?
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Robert (Alerion Sailor) on November 17, 2011, 12:43:20 AM: I read somewhere that many boats were designed based Alerion 111 I could be mistaken on which models but I believe it was called the Fish Class 12.5, 21' Fish, Buzzard bay 14, Buzzards Bay 25 and possibly the S boat.
Robert
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Steve on November 17, 2011, 01:39:28 AM: The 12 1/2 and the Fish were both built from the same half-hull. The BB25, Nat's favorite design, was a different model. It has a similar hull shape with a hollow bow, but also a centerboard . The S boat is entirely different, and the BB 14 is a modification of the 12 1/2 designed by L. Francis
Herreshoff, not Nat.
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Robert (Alerion Sailor) on November 17, 2011, 03:46:47 PM: Thanks Steve, Your probably more accurate than I. It was several years ago when I read it
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on November 20, 2011, 01:30:44 AM: 26' Herreshoff Alerion
•Boat Name: "Piaffe"
•Year: 2001
•Located in Muskegon, MI

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/0/1/2/0/2012087_1.jpg?1299716436000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/0/1/2/0/2012087_2.jpg?1299716437000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on November 21, 2011, 03:32:54 AM: 26' Herreshoff Alerion
•Boat Name: " Karma "
•Year: 2000
•Located in Bristol, RI

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/0/4/9/5/1049593_1.jpg?1038853295000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on November 22, 2011, 02:44:38 PM: 26' Herreshoff Alerion
•Boat Name: " DJANGO "
•Year: 1985
•Located in RI, United States

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/0/4/0/0/2040036_1.jpg?1236285362000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/0/4/0/0/2040036_2.jpg?1236285405000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Charles Barclay on November 22, 2011, 04:30:16 PM: I do not see boomvangs on any of these Alerions. Nor adjustable backstays.

Is it a cultural no-no to put a vang on a Herreshoff? How about an adjustable backstay? Mast bend control affects sail shape and upwind performance.

Most Herreshoff yachts are fractionals, whereas the S Boats have the running back and check stays to control bend, their boom extends to the transom and the vessel lacks a backstay. Also, I see some of the Alerions have booms that extend beyond the transom and some do not.

Can someone shed some light on this?

--CB
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Jon Brooks on November 23, 2011, 03:34:37 AM: Regarding the Alerions, they were never intended to be a class when originally designed. "Alerion" was Nat Herreshoff's personal sailboat, and he designed it for himself to sail in his later years. It is now on display in the small boat shed at Mystic Seaport.

Mass production boats started with the cold-molded, Gunter rigged boats built on Nantucket in the late 1970's. A while later, Halsey Herreshoff drew up plans for a full-keel boat like those pictured above. As they aren't really considered one-designs, they can be made with a multitude of rigs from a Gunter, to a Gaff, to a Marconi to I suppose a wish-bone.

As regards to a Boom-Vang, I suppose it all depends on the rig. I have one on our 12 1/2, but we can't use it while racing. Still, it's a handy thing to have in sloppy conditions off the wind.

Jon 8)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam Langerman on November 23, 2011, 03:33:39 PM: The Nantucket boats came after Halsey's full-keeled version, which was designed / built for the last private owner of Alerion III, Isaac B. Merriman. The story is told here: http://herreshoffdesigns.com/HA26_Soundings_Article.pdf

Adam L
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Jon Brooks on November 23, 2011, 09:51:08 PM: I stand corrected! I still like the full-keel version better...

Jon 8)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Charles Barclay on November 24, 2011, 05:01:33 PM: Thank you Adam.

That is an interesting history on how the boat got back into production and I can see now it was not intended to be a production one design class. It pops up from place to place with PHRF ratings and I presumed there was a standard configuration.

The first two Alerion's were fin keelers, any drawings or pictures available?

Mahalo,

CB
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on November 25, 2011, 03:25:44 AM: 26' Herreshoff Alerion
•Boat Name:" Lady Ashley "
•Year: 1984
•Located in New Haven, CT

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/6/6/8/1166871_1.jpg?1067967709000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on November 25, 2011, 03:07:31 PM: 26' Herreshoff Alerion
•Boat Name :" Interlude "
•Year: 1979
•Located in Charlevoix, MI
(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/4/4/1/0/1441036_1.jpg?1126895662000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/4/4/1/0/1441036_2.jpg?1126895663000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/4/4/1/0/1441036_3.jpg?1127911146000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/4/4/1/0/1441036_4.jpg?1127911146000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/4/4/1/0/1441036_5.jpg?1127911147000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/4/4/1/0/1441036_6.jpg?1127911145000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/4/4/1/0/1441036_7.jpg?1127911147000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam Langerman on November 25, 2011, 05:56:52 PM: Interlude is new to me. I will be asking Halsey about that rudder!
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Jon Brooks on November 26, 2011, 12:05:05 AM: That was the first thing I noticed too! Maybe they stole it off of Streaker? :o

Jon 8)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: rbgarr on November 26, 2011, 12:46:05 AM: I recall when Halsey was drawing up his plans for Streaker a transom mounted rudder was briefly considered.
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on November 27, 2011, 03:37:30 PM: 26' Herreshoff Alerion 26
•Boat Name: " Audrey Grace II "
•Year: 2005
•Located in Tiverton, RI
(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/6/5/2/3/1652364_10.jpg?1207603977000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/6/5/2/3/1652364_11.jpg?1207604023000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/6/5/2/3/1652364_12.jpg?1207604059000)

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(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/6/5/2/3/1652364_8.jpg?1168291187000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/6/5/2/3/1652364_7.jpg?1168291130000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on November 28, 2011, 03:34:19 PM: Herreshoff Alerion 26
•Boat Name: " Tobermory "
•Year: 2004
•Located in Naples, FL
(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/8/6/4/6/1864650_1.jpg?1204649002000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/8/6/4/6/1864650_2.jpg?1204649067000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/8/6/4/6/1864650_3.jpg?1204649068000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/8/6/4/6/1864650_4.jpg?1204649068000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/8/6/4/6/1864650_5.jpg?1204649068000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/8/6/4/6/1864650_7.jpg?1204649143000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/8/6/4/6/1864650_8.jpg?1204649144000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on November 29, 2011, 02:29:59 PM: Herreshoff Alerion 26
•Boat Name: " Selene "
•Year: 2003
•Located in Rockport, ME
(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/9/2/5/4/3/925434_7.jpg?1069448438000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/9/2/5/4/3/925434_5.jpg?1009576601000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/9/2/5/4/3/925434_9.jpg?1069448446000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/9/2/5/4/3/925434_10.jpg?1069448450000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/9/2/5/4/3/925434_1.jpg?1161068400000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on November 30, 2011, 02:54:37 PM: Herreshoff Alerion 26
•Boat Name: " EMILY "
•Year: 2003
•Located in Wilmington, NC
(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/6/1/5/8/1615874_7.jpg?1167695147000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/6/1/5/8/1615874_3.jpg?1161717879000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/6/1/5/8/1615874_11.jpg?1201887750000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/6/1/5/8/1615874_18.jpg?1201888258000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/6/1/5/8/1615874_14.jpg?1201887939000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/6/1/5/8/1615874_4.jpg?1167694988000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on December 15, 2011, 03:25:35 AM: Herreshoff Alerion 26
•Boat Name: " Lulie "
•Year: 2001
•Located in Fargo, ND

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/4/4/8/7/1448778_2.jpg?1128463767000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/4/4/8/7/1448778_3.jpg?1128463766000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/4/4/8/7/1448778_4.jpg?1128463766000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on December 16, 2011, 04:21:33 AM: Herreshoff Alerion 26
•Boat Name: ''CIRRUS''
•Year: 2001
•Located in Bristol, RI

No Foto .......
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on December 16, 2011, 05:06:29 AM: Herreshoff Alerion 26
•Year: 2001
•Located in Baltimore, MD

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/5/8/5/9/1585987_1.jpg?1161068400000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/5/8/5/9/1585987_3.jpg?1158191744000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/5/8/5/9/1585987_5.jpg?1158191745000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/5/8/5/9/1585987_10.jpg?1158191894000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/5/8/5/9/1585987_12.jpg?1158191992000)

Yanmar Engine HP: 9 Engine Model: 1GM
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: rbgarr on December 16, 2011, 02:49:30 PM: Ouch. No pads under the boats stands, and no chains. Not a good practice.

But an awful lot of stands... on the port side anyway. ;>
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on December 16, 2011, 03:44:55 PM: Agree...... :o
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on December 17, 2011, 01:23:23 AM: Herreshoff Alerion CB Sloop By Rummery's Boatyard
•Boat Name: '' ECLIPSE ''
•Year: 1999
•Located in Cataumet, MA

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/5/1/9/7/1519713_1.jpg?1161068400000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/5/1/9/7/1519713_2.jpg?1146677999000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/5/1/9/7/1519713_3.jpg?1146678071000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on December 19, 2011, 03:17:47 AM: OOPS...... its not a Alerion - Herreshoff Designs.......

26' Herreshoff / Cat Ketch Bristol
•Boat Name: "Columbine"
•Year: 1971
•Located in Portland, ME
(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/6/3/7/5/2/637528_6.jpg?956843266000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/6/3/7/5/2/637528_1.jpg?954940247000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/6/3/7/5/2/637528_2.jpg?956843266000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/6/3/7/5/2/637528_3.jpg?956843266000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/6/3/7/5/2/637528_4.jpg?956843266000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Robert (Alerion Sailor) on December 21, 2011, 03:08:22 AM: Here is one of my favourite pictures, I think it Adam at the helm

http://s46.photobucket.com/albums/f118/Alerion111/?action=view&current=Sadie.jpg
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on December 21, 2011, 03:35:17 AM: Quote from: Alerion Sailor on December 21, 2011, 03:08:22 AM
Here is one of my favourite pictures, I think it Adam at the helm

http://s46.photobucket.com/albums/f118/Alerion111/?action=view&current=Sadie.jpg

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f118/Alerion111/Sadie.jpg)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on December 21, 2011, 03:49:15 AM: ' Herreshoff Alerion
•Boat Name: '' Cirrus ''
•Year: 2001
•Located in No. Kingstown, RI

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/2/4/3/2/1243290_1.jpg?1087311484000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/2/4/3/2/1243290_2.jpg?1087311490000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/2/4/3/2/1243290_3.jpg?1087311487000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/2/4/3/2/1243290_4.jpg?1087311482000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/2/4/3/2/1243290_6.jpg?1087311526000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam Langerman on December 21, 2011, 03:27:57 PM: Quote from: Alerion Sailor on December 21, 2011, 03:08:22 AM
Here is one of my favourite pictures, I think it Adam at the helm

http://s46.photobucket.com/albums/f118/Alerion111/?action=view&current=Sadie.jpg

I took the picture. Best, Adam L
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on December 22, 2011, 04:40:47 AM: 26' Herreshoff Alerion Daysailer
•Boat Name: " LARK "
•Year: 1995
•Located in Cape Cod, MA

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/1/0/2/1110246_1.jpg?1055168748000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/1/0/2/1110246_2.jpg?1055168748000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/1/0/2/1110246_3.jpg?1055187506000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/1/0/2/1110246_4_thumb.jpg?1055187578000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/1/0/2/1110246_5.jpg?1055187635000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: rbgarr on December 22, 2011, 07:51:09 AM: Lark? Not the name on the transom....
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on December 22, 2011, 04:10:40 PM: Quote from: rbgarr on December 22, 2011, 07:51:09 AM
Lark? Not the name on the transom....

Yes ,I notice that too , just seeing if you guys were sleeping........ HA! ha!
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on December 29, 2011, 03:11:30 AM: 26' Herreshoff Alerion Sloop
•Boat Name: "Whisper"
•Year: 2002
•Located in Marblehead, MA

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[img]newimages.yachtworld.com/1/4/0/6/6/1406624_3.jpg?1119987985000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/4/0/6/6/1406624_4.jpg?1119987983000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/4/0/6/6/1406624_9.jpg?1119994807000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/4/0/6/6/1406624_10.jpg?1119994836000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Robert (Alerion Sailor) on December 29, 2011, 04:51:51 PM: Hey CJ where did you find all the Alerion photo's
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: rbgarr on December 30, 2011, 02:47:07 AM: There's a member of the Woodenboat Forum who has a set of tanbark Alerion sails (I don't the exact 'model' he has) that he may be willing to trade/sell in order to obtain a white or cream-colored set for his boat: http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?141478-Tanbark-Sails-to-white
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on December 30, 2011, 10:51:18 PM: Quote from: Alerion Sailor on December 29, 2011, 04:51:51 PM
Hey CJ where did you find all the Alerion photo's

On Yacht World under "SOLD Boats ", but you have to be a yacht dealer!
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on January 01, 2012, 04:04:13 AM: Herreshoff by Rumery`s Boatyard Alerion
•Boat Name: "Arion "
•Year: 1999
•Located in Martha`s Vineyard, MA
(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/resize/1/97/28/1029728_0_20110520133643_2_0.jpg?f=/1/97/28/1029728_0_20110520133643_2_0.jpg&w=600&h=450&t=1305927404000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/resize/1/97/28/1029728_0_20110520133643_3_0.jpg?f=/1/97/28/1029728_0_20110520133643_3_0.jpg&w=600&h=450&t=1305927404000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/resize/1/97/28/1029728_0_20110520133643_4_0.jpg?f=/1/97/28/1029728_0_20110520133643_4_0.jpg&w=600&h=450&t=1305927404000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/resize/1/97/28/1029728_0_20110520133643_5_0.jpg?f=/1/97/28/1029728_0_20110520133643_5_0.jpg&w=600&h=450&t=1305927404000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/resize/1/97/28/1029728_0_20110520133643_6_0.jpg?f=/1/97/28/1029728_0_20110520133643_6_0.jpg&w=600&h=450&t=1305927404000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/resize/1/97/28/1029728_0_20110606115712_10_0.jpg?f=/1/97/28/1029728_0_20110606115712_10_0.jpg&w=600&h=450&t=1307390233000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on January 03, 2012, 05:21:20 AM: Herreshoff Alerion
•Boat Name: herreshoff alerion
•Year: 2004
•Located in Osterville, MA

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/2/6/0/8/1260892_1.jpg?1270752628000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/2/6/0/8/1260892_2.jpg?1270752628000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/2/6/0/8/1260892_6.jpg?1270752628000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/2/6/0/8/1260892_8.jpg?1270752628000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/2/6/0/8/1260892_7.jpg?1270752628000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on January 03, 2012, 06:28:07 PM: 26' 2000 Herreshoff Alerion 26 - US$64,500
Name ; "Winsome"
Year: 2000
Length: 26 ft Located in: Rochester, NY
(http://images.boats.com/resize/1/26/93/3662693_20110701113109_2_LARGE.jpg?f=/1/26/93/3662693_20110701113109_2_LARGE.jpg&w=600&h=450&t=1309548767000)
(http://images.boats.com/resize/1/26/93/3662693_20110629115935_1_LARGE.jpg?f=/1/26/93/3662693_20110629115935_1_LARGE.jpg&w=600&h=450&t=1309378578000)
(http://images.boats.com/resize/1/26/93/3662693_20110629115933_4_LARGE.jpg?f=/1/26/93/3662693_20110629115933_4_LARGE.jpg&w=600&h=450&t=1309378579000)
(http://images.boats.com/resize/1/26/93/3662693_20110701112728_4_LARGE.jpg?f=/1/26/93/3662693_20110701112728_4_LARGE.jpg&w=600&h=450&t=1309548624000)
(http://images.boats.com/resize/1/26/93/3662693_20110701113108_4_LARGE.jpg?f=/1/26/93/3662693_20110701113108_4_LARGE.jpg&w=375&h=500&t=1309548766000)

(http://images.boats.com/resize/1/26/93/3662693_20110629115933_6_LARGE.jpg?f=/1/26/93/3662693_20110629115933_6_LARGE.jpg&w=600&h=450&t=1309378579000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on January 17, 2012, 05:33:12 PM: 27' Herreshoff S-Class
•Boat Name: SILHOUETTE
•Year: 1926
•Located in Newport, RI
•Hull Material: Wood

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/0/1/8/2/2018239_5.jpg?1231783154000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/0/1/8/2/2018239_1.jpg?1231782649000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/0/1/8/2/2018239_2.jpg?1231782880000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/0/1/8/2/2018239_3.jpg?1231782965000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/0/1/8/2/2018239_4.jpg?1231783082000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on January 17, 2012, 05:37:26 PM: cont....

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/0/1/8/2/2018239_10.jpg?1231783513000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/0/1/8/2/2018239_9.jpg?1231783440000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/0/1/8/2/2018239_8.jpg?1231783370000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/0/1/8/2/2018239_7.jpg?1231783299000)

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/0/1/8/2/2018239_6.jpg?1231783233000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Adam on January 17, 2012, 05:49:30 PM: Silhouette is an "original" HMCo. S-Class (not an Alerion) - And there still is a bit of a controversy over her real hull Number and age...See:

http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/forum/index.php?topic=114.0

then:

http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.0
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Robert (Alerion Sailor) on January 18, 2012, 05:44:55 AM: Quote from: rbgarr on December 30, 2011, 02:47:07 AM
There's a member of the Woodenboat Forum who has a set of tanbark Alerion sails (I don't the exact 'model' he has) that he may be willing to trade/sell in order to obtain a white or cream-colored set for his boat: http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?141478-Tanbark-Sails-to-white

Is someone looking for tanbark sails for Alerion I have new unused set for a folding gunter.
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Robert (Alerion Sailor) on January 19, 2012, 04:38:33 PM: I wonder why neither Alerion 111 or Sadie have flotation chambers built in
Robert
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Cardinal Joe on January 27, 2012, 03:46:48 PM: Adam...... any updates on this Alerion 26 Rudder ?

(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/4/4/1/0/1441036_2.jpg?1126895663000)
Title: Re: Alerion - Herreshoff Designs
Post by: Atlanticdan on May 09, 2013, 06:10:45 AM: Cardinal Joe & Adam,
If you have any interest in the rudder configuration, I may be able to shed some light on the topic. I own this boat, 1979 hull #2. As far as I can tell the spade rudder was done by the first owner on the Eastern Shore of Maryland. The boat hailed from the Northern Peninsula, Michigan and then returned to Maryland. The boat is now in New England. The last owner added a shaft log and an electric power plant. I hope to learn more through Halsey Herreshoff and some other folks that might be in the know. As I learn more I'll keep posting. The boat is now named ARUNDEL and is moored near #8, RASCAL.....to be continued