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Herreshoff Forum => Herreshoff Sailing Vessel Classes => Topic started by: Adam on January 30, 2010, 03:01:16 PM
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Rudder Mag; February 1936....
Has a listing of HMCo. boats and the associated pricing - Two boats stand out and are NOT in the similar period HMCo catalog (that I can tell):
1. A "lake George Class" - which is listed between the 12 1/2 and the Fish Class
2. An "18 Footer" - also listed between the 12 and Fish.....
Price 675 and 1850....
What are they?
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My Rudders stop at 1922. What do you mean by "between the 12 and Fish" ? Is the implication that the length is between them? the price ?
There were the 5 Buzzards Bay 18's of 1903 : essentially a stretched 15. They sold for a little over $1300.
Do you happen to have a digital image of the page ?
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That's interesting. I'd also like to see this ad. What was the page number?
The Lake George Youngster Class was on the minds of the folks at HMCo for quite some time during the mid-1930s. I do not know if a prototype was ever built. It would have been an open knockabout, sloop-rigged with a wish-boom, length OA 15' 0", draft 2' 6", beam 5' 3" with a sail area of 110 sq ft. Several plans for the boat, dated between September 1934 and (probably) 1938, exist at M.I.T. The Herreshoff Museum has a photo of a rigged model of it which was made in March 1937. I haven't figured out if a model of it exists, but I assume it does because its offsets were taken off and recorded in one of the offset booklets which are now in the M.I.T collection. M.I.T. also holds some technical or business records pertaining to the class.
The eighteen footer is also interesting. Might this be a reference to HMCo #1164s Louise Ann, now named Mist II and in the collection of the Herreshoff Museum? Louise Ann is variously referred to as a keel sloop of the Mount Hope or 18-24 Class. She is 23' 6" LOA, 18' 9" LWL, 6' 3" beam and has a draft of 1' 11". She was designed by N.G.H. and built for stock for the Herreshoff Manufacturing Company in March 1930. She was targeted at customers who wanted a larger and faster boat than the 12 1/2 and 16-footers. After some use for promotional service in Bristol Harbor HMCo sold her to William L. Taggart in Michigan who in 1976 donated her to the museum.
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Rudder Mag Feb 1936 - pg 124 (very bottom). It's not an ad but a listing of "Standardized and Stock Boats" supplied by different manufacturers....So presumably this came from HMCo. directly....Interestingly no specs are given for any of the Herreshoff boats - just prices.....
It starts with the Frostbite Dinghy, and ends with the FI 31 on the following Page. I compared it to the catalog - no mention of either of these boats.
I wonder could the Lake George be the "Amphi-craft"? She would certainly be the type of craft for the Lake George vacationers - and if you look at the advertising on the Amphi-craft - they mention mostly fresh water and camping....perhaps HMCo. decided this was a better craft for the market at the time?
Too bad, as my family owned a camp ground in the 30's on Lake George!
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The Frostbiter would most certainly be the 11' 6" LOA Nic Potter-designed one then. HMCo built 26 of those between 1934 and 1937 (with another 6 recorded but cancelled orders).
The Lake George class and the Amphicraft are two distinctly different boats. The Amphicraft was much smaller (13' 1" LOA). Seventeen of them were built between 1935 and 1943. The Lake George class boats were always referred to as such and I am not sure if one was ever built.
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I would have thought they were two distinct classes - what I'm guessing is the Ampi-craft better fit the market they were going after - thus never building the Lake George Class....