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Whatever / Re: HERRESHOFF?

« on: November 30, 2008, 09:11:30 AM »

hey thanks, i am waiting a response on more prints other than sail plans unless you think they may be of help since it was converted to a yawl. do you think its worth dropping the lead of the boat and taking a peek? brian

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Whatever / HERRESHOFF?

« on: November 29, 2008, 05:15:55 AM »

HEY GUYS NO WORD ON THE HISTORY OF THE GREEN PARROT YET. STILL WAITING FOR A REPLY FROM SSYC. DID HERE FROM J.P FROM THE MUSEUM THOUGH.HOPEING TO GET MORE PRINTS AS THE RUDDER,SHAFT, AND HINGES LINE UP PERFECT ALSO THE LEAD RODS. ALSO NO.2MERRIMAN BROS. HARDWARE BUT I SUPPOSE ANY BUILDER COULD HAVE USED.  1X3/8 AND 1X3/8 GUNNEL BOARD TOO. IS THERE ANY STAMPING IN THE LEAD? I FOUND THE WATERLINE CUT AROUND THE HULL BUT CANT MAKE IT OUT WELL IN THE BOW. I WILL DIG THROUGH THE BAGS OF SAILS AND FIND SOME MORE CLUES. B     

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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / Re: New Bedford 29

« on: November 12, 2008, 07:24:38 PM »

here is the history passed down to me was this boat had a sister vessel 2 or 3 boats similar.white cedar soaked in white kerosene. these boats were raced on the east coast. when sailboat racing became popularized in the early 1900"s by the Chicago Yacht Club this boat surfaced in the record books as a consistant challenger and winner in lake michigan sailing under the name THE GREEN PARROT. in 1943 it was restored in milwalkee.1n 1959 as SWANEE and was fiberglassed 3rd place queens cup race in lake michigan at muskegon yacht club.in the early 1970's raced as THE RAVEN and won first place from muskegon to saugatuck by 3 min. actual time. draft is 5'3"

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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / Re: New Bedford 29

« on: November 12, 2008, 07:01:55 PM »

l.o.a  34.33  o.f 6.42 o.a 6.28 l.w.l 21.63  l.w.l beam 7.11 boat rating is 18.55 after 1943 restoration

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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / Re: New Bedford 29

« on: November 12, 2008, 06:48:54 PM »

no.26 i think is the print no.

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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / Re: New Bedford 29

« on: November 12, 2008, 06:47:37 PM »

shop print drawer 76

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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / Re: New Bedford 29

« on: November 12, 2008, 05:15:02 PM »

the boat is shrink wraped out back in my dads old farm.the missing hardware is in a box.i can tell of some changes over the years going through the boat.yesterday i took the rogue print out to the boat and did some more measuring on the lead and rudderand it does check against the print.the history of the boat is it was built as a sloop (one of three) it raced on the east coast in the 20's as an "eagle"and than an "R" before the 30's. back than it was named the GREEN PARROT and raced in the chicago mac and queens cup races.than named SWANEE in the 1959 queens cup race in lake michigan.it only took third place that year.

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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / Re: New Bedford 29

« on: November 11, 2008, 07:28:25 PM »

Welcome Finler - Well Rogue is a Newport 29 - which is 29 feet on the water line, almost 36' overall so yours would not be a Newport 29. The line drawing was done by Seth Persson when he built Rogue - Her original lines were taken off another Newport 29 done by Sidney Herreshoff in the 1940's. Her design is similar to many boats by many designers/builders in the following decades - so yours could be by a number of folks. Do you have any pic's? Builder’s plates? Any other info would help....

Interesting side note - Sidney is listed as the designer of Rogue in a few places because of his offsets...She also participated in a few Herreshoff Rendezvous back in the 80's.

Interesting Side note^2: I’ve read that Brian Rief is going to build (if not already started) a Newport 29 at his ME shop: http://www.brionrieffboatbuilder.com/

o.k. but do you know of any mention in that book of the early ROGUE. it was around the time before the book was published. i cant find a builder plate. the dimentions match rogue well but the beam measures 7ft 6in and rogue is 7ft8in 

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Specific Herreshoff Vessels / Re: New Bedford 29

« on: November 10, 2008, 06:35:12 AM »

i have a boat very similar to the rogue drawing. it is a 21 footer that i bought from a man who stated a couple was writing a book about old vessels. he stated in a letter that the couple had been searching his vessel and that they were looking for its sister vessel. could this be the line drawn boat in the book. i would like to read this book