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Messages - Irv Mac Dowell

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Hi Joe,

We met in Cape May looking at a Pilot there more than a year ago.  I'm still looking around, and I wondered whether the folks who bought your lovely Pilot might be looking to sell her.  If you have any info I would much appreciate it.

Thanks.

Irv Mac Dowell

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Herreshoff Boats For Sale / Re: 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot 18 For Sale
« on: August 25, 2013, 02:11:40 PM »
Hi,

The site does not allow me access to your pictures.  The Flicker link worked perfectly.  Can the pics be uploaded there?

Thanks.

Irv

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Herreshoff Boats For Sale / Re: 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot 18 For Sale
« on: August 21, 2013, 01:23:17 PM »
Thanks.  I'll watch for them.

Irv

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Herreshoff Boats For Sale / Re: 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot 18 For Sale
« on: August 20, 2013, 08:51:54 PM »
She looks great.  Do you have any close ups of cockpit and cabin interior?

Best regards,

Irv

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Herreshoff Boats For Sale / Re: 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot 18 For Sale
« on: August 18, 2013, 04:58:32 PM »
Do you have any additional pics?

Best regards,

Irv

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Herreshoff Designs Not Built By HMCo / Re: herreshoff 18'
« on: March 13, 2013, 02:41:55 PM »
Hi Joe,

Based on Hycoop's latest posts, it would appear that his boat is not for sale after all. 

Best regards,

Irv

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Herreshoff Designs Not Built By HMCo / Re: herreshoff 18'
« on: March 07, 2013, 08:01:59 PM »
Launch,

Thanks for the kind words.  The folks who built my Caledonia Yawl outside of Seattle, Grapeview Point Boatworks, have on their website a picture of the Nelson Zimmer launch that Tom and Susanne built a couple of years ago.  I was aboard her last winter when I flew out to arrange final details on my build.  Tom built her as an electric, and originally she was an all open boat.  Because Seattle is temperate, though very wet in winter, Tom added an all around enclosure built of wood and plexiglass for winter and spring use.  If you go to their website, grapeviewpointboatworks.com, you can see pictures of the boat with its enclosure and without.

Best regards,

Irv

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Herreshoff Designs Not Built By HMCo / Re: herreshoff 18'
« on: March 06, 2013, 03:41:02 PM »
In a moderate sea, and very light winds, under power, the main is kept 'midships and the downhaul tight.  With some wind, motor sailing, the traveler might be moved slightly outward.  These are very heavily-built cruising sails, so potential damage is minimal to non existent.

Irv


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Herreshoff Designs Not Built By HMCo / Re: herreshoff 18'
« on: March 05, 2013, 03:46:33 PM »
With respect, I noted that a Bimini top would be very useful and entirely appropriate.  Too, the full enclosures shown in subsequent pictures (Is that a Pilot?), seem fine, and would not affect the boat's safety or operation.  I would not take a boat so equipped into any kind of sea, but for placid river cruises in wind and rain, it would be fine.  I must respectfully disagree slightly on your assessment of a steadying sail. Often, on offshore deliveries of sailboats up to 70 feet, we have left the main fully deployed in rolling seas, but with no wind.  As the boat rolls, the sail fills and dumps air, thus slowing the roll to a manageable and comfortable degree. It can be noisy,as it flops about,  but the sail eases the motion.  Even on my 20 foot Caledonia Yawl, the mizzen and main slow the roll somewhat when motoring in a beam sea with no wind. 

My original concern had to do with the arrangement on Harborlite, as shown in Joe's posting.  That looks to be a very heavy frame built of square aluminum that is anchored at only one point on the washboard on each side.  I would be very concerned about that single-point arrangement working loose in a sea and tearing the washboard out, and even causing injury to passengers, should it fall without warning.  My experience in tuna towers in a beam sea, while much higher and in heavier rolling, suggests to me that the torsional forces at work can be extreme. I wonder if such forces, while certainly less extreme, might doom that apparatus to failure.

Best regards,

Irv

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Herreshoff Designs Not Built By HMCo / Re: herreshoff 18'
« on: March 04, 2013, 10:55:04 PM »
By the way, Joe, there's a Chris Craft ladder like Herk's for sale on Ebay.

Irv

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Herreshoff Designs Not Built By HMCo / Re: herreshoff 18'
« on: March 04, 2013, 08:10:47 PM »
It seems to me that the whole idea of a steadying sail on boats like these is to fill alternately one side and then the other to dampen snap rolling in a beam sea.  Canopies that are in line with the cabin top, or "horizontal" as noted above have no such function.  Round bilge boats like the Pilot tend to roll in a rather gentle motion, though some may find such motion sickening after a while.  My concern, especially with the boat above, is that the aluminum structure appears to be very heavy.  Any rolling would seem to be exacerbated in a beam sea because of that weight.  I also wonder about that single point attachment to the covering boards.  That location will be getting a very large amount of forward and aft movement in the normal use of the boat.  That area would be very prone to failure, it seems to me.

I think the best solution for most users would be a Bimini top as shown folded in one of Joe's pictures.  Simple to deploy and furl, and very light in weight.

Best regards,

Irv

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Herreshoff Designs Not Built By HMCo / Re: herreshoff 18'
« on: February 20, 2013, 10:16:43 PM »
I'd worry about changing the righting moment.  Oops!  Over she goes...

Best regards,

Irv

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Herreshoff Designs Not Built By HMCo / Re: herreshoff 18'
« on: February 20, 2013, 03:16:58 AM »
That looks like a lot of weight aloft.  Any idea what the canopy frame weighs?

Is this boat seriously for sale?  Where is it located?

Best regards,

Irv

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Herreshoff Designs Not Built By HMCo / Re: herreshoff 18'
« on: February 17, 2013, 06:59:57 PM »
Do these drains have plugs?  Could you use peened over and well-bedded copper tubing?  Perhaps a picture would help.

Best regards,

Irv

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Herreshoff Designs Not Built By HMCo / Re: herreshoff 18'
« on: February 14, 2013, 08:19:23 PM »
Thanks, Joe.  Your help is much appreciated.

Irv

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