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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #345 on: June 05, 2011, 06:32:00 PM »
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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #347 on: June 17, 2011, 03:57:14 AM »
How does one find out if a boat is still available and contact the owner?  This is really opaque to me at this point.

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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #348 on: June 17, 2011, 07:55:17 PM »
Hi Dave - We keep a list of original built HMCo boats that are for sale on a "For Sale" page.  Go to the top banner and click on the "Registry" link. You can send a PM (Personal Message) or E-mail to Steve or myself if something is of intrest. We then will make contact with the owner or give you the information.

Additionally there is a for sale section of this forum where people will post items and boats for sale - this will include original HMCo hulls as well as newer builds (such as Fiberglass repros, or the "Pilot" on this thread) . You can PM them directly through the forum - or an e-mail. Use the little envelope or quote box symbol on the lower left hand side of each post.

Let me know if you have any questions.


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Re: herreshoff 18'
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Re: herreshoff 18'
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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #351 on: July 11, 2011, 03:23:35 AM »
I have an opportunity to aquire a H18 Catboat.  it is a 1980 built by Aquarius, and the plate on  the centerboard trunk cover says Herreshoff.    I've been considering turning thesailboat plan into a launch plan.  I have an excellent builder interested in doing the work.  seeing that it was a sailboat, it was set up for an outboard.  is it practical to convert to an  inboard, and does anybody know of any used inboard diesels available?  I am well aware of new diesel cost, so it seems that used is  the best route if planning to go inboard.  New to the forum and site.  seems like alot of good knowledge here!

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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #352 on: July 11, 2011, 03:36:52 PM »
With the mods you are looking to do i'd contact the original designer. Call Adam Langerman at Herreshoff Designs:

http://herreshoffdesigns.com/

info@herreshoffdesigns.com

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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #353 on: July 19, 2011, 05:06:05 PM »
I donated mine to the Mass Maritime program, you can steal it from them. They picked it up in May...it has a great engine. Sounds like you sold your last project.  Hope you get it. Jack

----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Cannavo
To: 'Jack Maher' ; 'Jack Holgate'
Cc: 'Joe Cannavo'
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 4:28 PM
Subject: Looking for a Herreshoff harbor Pilot for sale !


I may know of one , if it has not sold - " Sky King " with a 47 hp Diesel in it!
 

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Jack Holgate <jholgate@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Joe,

>   I'm looking for Herreshoff Harbor Pilot project similar to the one you recently completed. I'm a retired Navy man but I've spent all my time on two and four wheeled restoration projects rather than waterborne ones in recent years.  (You can see a few at http://www.etagloh.phanfare.com/ if you're interested.)  However, after searching for some time for a boat like the Harbor Pilot I stumbled across your lengthy restoration effort on the Bass Barn forum and was smitten.  This is what I have been looking for.>   Being retired I don't have gobs of money to put into something like this all at once but I can undertake a long-range effort and would like to bring a Harbor Pilot back to life and use it for the rest of my life.

>   Let me know if you know of anything available and if not keep me on your "looking for" list.

> Thanks in advance.

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> Jack Holgate

> Hartsville, SC

> (not too far from Myrtle Beach)

 

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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #354 on: July 27, 2011, 05:40:41 PM »
I have recently launched my Herreshoff Yacht Club Launch. It is located in Somerset, MA. I purchased it from William Simich. He bought it in CA and had it shipped to Burr Brothers in Marion, MA. The HIN is TSPHP089M771. The title lists it as a 1977 and the builders plate lists Squadron Yachts as the builder. The original engine was an Iszu Pices 27 2cyl diesel. The engine was not running when I purchased the boat, the owner said it had water in one cyl., and I just happened to have a Yanmar 3GM30F sitting in my garage with no home so I installed that. I don't know how to upload pics on this site so if you want to see it let me know your email address and I will forward you some.

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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #355 on: August 14, 2011, 06:49:56 PM »
Seeswell > sent me your pic's and i'll post them up for you !  My is joec@cardinalyachtsales.com or jcannavo@gmail.com ......

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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #356 on: August 14, 2011, 07:15:31 PM »
The HIN is TSPHP089M771. The title lists it as a 1977 and the builders plate lists Squadron Yachts as the builder.

Seeswell - your Pilot is Hull # 89  !  Hum..... the Vin# = 1971 , you say its a 1977 . :-\

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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #357 on: August 14, 2011, 07:48:19 PM »
Joe,

The title lists it as a 1977 but I agree with you that it should be a 1971.  Squadron Yachts does not seem to have built any boats prior to 1977 and HIN were not required in 1971 so my quess is that what looks like a 1 is actually a poorly formed 7? :-\

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« Reply #358 on: August 14, 2011, 07:58:14 PM »
Hull Identification Numbers – Some answers to your questions!

 

The Hull Identification Number (referred to as a “HIN number”) typically consists of (12) characters – usually capital letters and Arabic numbers with no spaces, slashes, hyphens or other marks in between the letters.

A (3) digit “Manufacturers Identification Code – MIC” is followed by a (5) character set representing the manufacturers hull serial number and… another (4) figures that will represent the date of manufacture.

So it’s going to look like this….

 “ABC followed by 12345 and then 6789”

The first three letters (MIC) will be made in block capital letters or in some cases a mix of letters and numbers (letters are most typical.) These are issued or assigned (in the US) by the Coast Guard and it identifies the plant of manufacture that is unique to the organization or it can simply represent the organization to whom it was issued.

The next four to eight numbers (depends on which manufacturer built the hull… some use 5 characters, some 6, 7 or 8. These are the individual characters that represent the unique hull serial number assigned to that hull. No two boats are assigned the same number and like the others, these too will be capital letters and/or Arabic numbers with one exception… the letters “I”, “O” and “Q” cannot be used.

The last set of numbers (usually four) are often combinations of letters and numbers that will indicate a month and year of manufacture and the model year for which the boat is built. The “date code” aspect of this set has been handled in three different ways over the years and has to be “interpreted” according to some of the following information.

Country Code – This is an optional addition to the Hull Identification Number. Manufacturers of boats have the option of adding the prefix – i.e. “CA-“ (block capitals and a hyphen) in front of the HIN number. This is a mandatory requirement for manufacturers who are exporting to another country (such as the European community) however this is not a part of the accepted mutual recognition of Hull Identification Numbers between the US and Canada.

Marking on the Hull – The HIN number is to be permanently affixed into the hull or hull member, or on a plate, such that the removal of the HIN or plate would be obvious and non-normal to the surrounding surfaces or area. No character of the HIN is to be less than 6 mm (.250”) in height and width. The HIN is to be located as follows:

On the transom above the load waterline (prefereably on the upper starboard quadrant.)

The starboard side at the aft end of the hull that bears the rudder or steering mechanism if the boat has no transom.
The outermost starboard side at the aft end of the hull, if the boat has more than one hull and no transom.
Some manufacturers had added some additional characters after the HIN but separated from the HIN by a hyphen. (Keep in mind this system is geared to work with all boats, pleasure, commercial, aluminum, fiberglass, sail, power, etc. – so the hull and manufacturer variations do take in some latitude.)

 

The three different numbering systems used are as follows … (newest version first) - The simplest way to figure which one your boat is using is to first identify the year you believe the hull was built. Then look for the system that was most likely in use during that time.

 

System 1

Most builders started using this format in January of 1985 and it is still in use today.

ZZZ 12345 A 5 88

ZZZ - MIC code (Unique to the company that built the hull)

12345 – Hull Serial number

A – Month of manufacture

5 – Year of manufacture

88 – Model year

All of this goes with the following letter designations for each month as follows:

 

January – A  February – B  March – C  April – D   May – E   June – F

 

July – G  August – H  September – I  October – J  November – K  December – L

 

Character nine is the letter of the alphabet that indicates the month during which construction or assembly began.

Character ten is the last numeral of the Year during which construction or assembly began.

Characters eleven and twelve are the last two numerals representing the Model Year for which the boat was built.

FYI… it’s always a bit confusing for those boats who may be documented, registered or licensed as being a 1988 (built in December) but may not have been completed for any number of reasons until the first, second or third month in 1989. It doesn’t mean anything significant but some people want to get attached to the specific “Tuesday” when she rolled out of the shed! They’re going to have some problems with this….

 

System 2

Most builders used this format from the “mid-70’s” until December of 1984 and some still continued to utilize the previous (earlier) system. (Initially this system was adopted and “suggested for use” and later on it was not a suggestion by the Coast Guard but a mandatory request. That’s why some manufacturers took their own time to comply or not.)

  ZZZ 12345 G77E

ZZZ - MIC code (Unique to the company that built the hull)

12345 – Hull Serial number

G77E – Month and year of manufacture

All of this goes with the following letter designations for each month as follows:

 

August – A  Sept – B  October – C   November – D   December – E

 

January – F  February – G  March – H   April – I   May – J   June – K  July - L

Character nine is the spacer letter (G) – before the year.

Character ten and eleven are the last two numerals of the model year, which begins in August of the preceeding calendar year.

Character twelve is a letter of the alphabet indicating the month during which construction or assembly began.

 

System 3

Most builders used this format (on a more voluntary basis than regulatory) from the 1960’s until the mid 1970’s and some converted to the newer system ahead of others.

  ZZZ 12345 1275

ZZZ - MIC code (Unique to the company that built the hull)

12345 – Hull Serial number

1275 – Month and year of manufacture – clearly simpler than the coded system.

 

Character nine and ten indicate the actual calendar month (01 thru 12) used.

Character eleven and twelve are the last two numerals of the calendar year.

In this case, the date of manufacture is the month and year during which the construction or assembly began.


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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #359 on: August 14, 2011, 08:01:36 PM »
System 2

Most builders used this format from the “mid-70’s” until December of 1984 and some still continued to utilize the previous (earlier) system. (Initially this system was adopted and “suggested for use” and later on it was not a suggestion by the Coast Guard but a mandatory request. That’s why some manufacturers took their own time to comply or not.)

 
G77E – Month and year of manufacture

Your Pilot could have been built on April 1977 = I (april) + 77 being the year - M = ?