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Cardinal Joe

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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2009, 12:16:04 AM »
Quote from: Cardinal Joe on September 28, 2009, 02:06:00 AM
Quote from: Adam Langerman on July 24, 2009, 05:54:44 PM
Yes, the Herreshoff America, Eagle, Scout and Pilot all use the same hulls!  The non-sailing hulls do not have centerboards of course.

Pilot Model - 1974

Was the Westerbeke diesel engine a 25 hp ?   If so is 8 to 9 knots average speed @ 1800 rpms ?



 Answer to above question is YES !  Standard is 15 hp and upgrade is 25 hp !

Question ? - The rule-of-thumb which states that, around hull speed, an increase of one knot requires twice the horsepower suggests that decreasing speed from seven to six knots would give a fuel use of about 1/2 gph. ( Average 1 gph )

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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2009, 02:34:46 AM »
Well they are very popular in the "America" version as a Cape Cod Cat. The Pilot - as far as I know - was quite rare so a "following" may be a stretch. Like most classic hulls there are places - like New England in general where these types of boats would probably sell better then others. If it were me - yeah I'd love a neat classic like this - put a small 12-16hp diesel in her, maybe some trap strakes, a pot haul, and a nice hemp push on the bow and it would be a head turner.

About 10 years ago I re-did one of the old 17'  "Finest Kind" CC Novi hulls (Later the Stagepoint 17, and recently the Seaway Stagepoint 17). I got more comments from passer by's then any other boat I've ever owned. I fished her hard for 5 years and sold her.
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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2009, 12:37:49 AM »
Quote from: Adam on September 30, 2009, 02:34:46 AM
Well they are very popular in the "America" version as a Cape Cod Cat.


Herreshoff America Catboat - $8500 (Long Island, NY)

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Herreshoff America Catboat, Nowalk and Williams 1974, 2007 8 HP Tohatsu in well, 2007 Thurston sail with flag, everything needed to sail, Great shape, presently in the water, south shore Long Island, $8500, Please call for more information, 516-805-9690


Location: Long Island, NY

  Adam - there are two photo's of this boat on craigslist under South Jersey < I can't obtain them to post  on this site. Cardinal Joe
 
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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2009, 12:48:05 AM »
Quote from: Adam on September 30, 2009, 02:34:46 AM
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About 10 years ago I re-did one of the old 17'  "Finest Kind" CC Novi hulls (Later the Stagepoint 17, and recently the Seaway Stagepoint 17). I got more comments from passer by's then any other boat I've ever owned. I fished her hard for 5 years and sold her.

I'm looking for a Seaway 24 Express model to purchase !  And i went to Nova Scotia last year and took many Pic's of Novi Hull's , I hope to Restore one in the near furture . They remind me of the Herreshoff 18 Hull in some ways , they both belly out and Bow & Stern up a little .
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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2009, 01:10:56 AM »
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One of the CBA members put this up on the web -



Adam - What is CBA ? 
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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2009, 01:40:08 AM »
Joe:
1. CBA = Catboat Association (http://www.catboats.org/).
2. Check out their "Cats for sale" section for lots of Herreshoff America versions.
3. The Seaway 24 is nice hull. I just sold (last year) an Albemarle 24 I re-did - not a novi but a nice hull none the less.
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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2009, 04:22:29 AM »
Quote from: Adam on October 02, 2009, 01:40:08 AM
Joe:
1. CBA = Catboat Association (http://www.catboats.org/).
2. Check out their "Cats for sale" section for lots of Herreshoff America versions.
3. The Seaway 24 is nice hull. I just sold (last year) an Albemarle 24 I re-did - not a novi but a nice hull none the less.

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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2009, 03:51:02 PM »
My Pilot - My Vin# on the boat is TSPHP 06308 74 - that would make a 1974 production / 1975 model year - my Title states 1975 as the year of the vessel ?  If I'm reading the Vin # corret - than the boat is Hull # 08    and the 06 = June  the 3 is a fuller # and the 74 is the year ! ?????????
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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2009, 04:41:15 PM »
Also my Harbor Pilot -Title states Make " SQU " which = SQUADRON YACHTS,INC   Why does it not state " Herreshoff " ???????
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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2009, 02:04:46 AM »
They were not Herreshoff built - Halsey Herreshoff designed them for the builder(s) in the 1970's. Several builders made them actually but the two main builders were Squadron, and N&W. Horizon I believe was the last (and still owns the molds I think?). If I remember correctly Horizon changed it quite a bit for their "Horizon Cat".

To complicate things, it is somewhat unsubstantiated that Halsey used one of his Grandfathers racing catboat models for the design (probable early cat 1870’s-1890’s). How much he changed the original hull design is unknown. I am highly curious though as too which hull # it was...One of the things to ask next time I’m at the museum.
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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2009, 01:39:29 AM »
Quote from: Cardinal Joe on October 03, 2009, 03:51:02 PM
My Pilot - My Vin# on the boat is TSPHP 06308 74 - that would make a 1974 production / 1975 model year - my Title states 1975 as the year of the vessel ?  If I'm reading the Vin # corret - than the boat is Hull # 08    and the 06 = June  the 3 is a fuller # and the 74 is the year ! ?????????



CORRECTION - TSPHP 06308 74 = Hull # 63 , 08 = August , 74 = Year !
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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2009, 12:18:05 AM »
Scout Ketch for sale - first one I've ever heard of...

http://maine.craigslist.org/boa/1400760462.html
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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2009, 04:15:09 AM »
This one is for sale in Idaho of all places.... See the CBA site - ad 150-55...

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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2009, 05:16:56 AM »
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Re: herreshoff 18'
« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2009, 06:08:04 AM »
Pic's of my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot 18 , I will start restoring this pilot over the Winter Season.











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