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Adam

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Tom Brightmans interview
« on: July 27, 2009, 04:28:23 PM »
In the interview of Tom Brightman by Darling (1977), Brightman mentions a 24 foot class - 24' LWL. Did he mean BB25's?

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Re: Tom Brightmans interview
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2009, 04:55:44 PM »
Dunno.  Do you have a document ?

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Re: Tom Brightmans interview
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2009, 06:05:36 PM »
Just the interview - he was very specific to length. I'll go back and copy what he wrote.

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Re: Tom Brightmans interview
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2009, 03:01:30 AM »
Here is the wording:

"Nat invited Barr to go out with him to try out a new Buzzards Bay
24-footer which was one of those extreme overhang boats - 24 feet on
the waterline and 35 feet or more overall, with a very sharp keel and
a spade rudder."

I assume he meant the BB25?

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Re: Tom Brightmans interview
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2009, 12:19:17 PM »
I don't think the description goes with what we generally think of as a BB25 (BAGATELLE, VITESSA, et. al), which had moderate overhangs, a 32 foot LOA, a rudder hung like that on a 15 only with more of a square shape, and a shallow keel with centerboard.  There was another, earlier class of 3 boats, also referred to a BB25's (486 EDITH, 514 BLAZING STAR, and 515 MAY QUEEN).  These had more pronounced overhangs. 486 was shorter, but 514 and 515 had a 25-foot LWL and about a 35-foot LOA.  BLAZING STAR is at Mystic, tucked away in Aladdin's Cave.  Could be these ?

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Re: Tom Brightmans interview
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2009, 05:34:08 PM »
So we think these were what he referred too?

« Last Edit: July 28, 2009, 08:01:00 PM by Adam »

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Re: Tom Brightmans interview
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2009, 06:37:08 PM »
Not sure, but that is a 25-footer with long overhangs.  BTW, I just read through that Brightman interview.  He had some ineteresting comments about NGH's sailing skills.

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Re: Tom Brightmans interview
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2009, 08:11:48 PM »
Yes - must be something to see a 90'er come up to her birth under sail....Although I just don't understand why he wouldn't just turn on the Yanmar Diesel like I do ???  ::)

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Re: Tom Brightmans interview
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2009, 08:42:00 PM »
Kathy Bray offers the opinion that Brightman may be referring to Alpha, #416.

 "When the 'Wasp' was being rigged and fitted out the little centerboarder 'Alpha,' that we have just spoken of, was also completed. Captain Nat had just taken her out for her trial and brought her in to the wharf near the 'Wasp' where Captain Barr was greatly admiring 'Alpha.' Captain Nat, who was always fond of Charlie Barr, said, 'How would you like to take her out for a spin?' Charlie jumped at the opportunity, and calling a couple of his crew from 'Wasp,' boarded 'Alpha.' At the time Charlie was only about twenty-four years old, and all of his experience had been in heavily ballasted Scottish cutters. He ordered one of his men to cast her off and pull the jib to windward. When this was done 'Alpha' turned on her heel like a top, filled her sails, and promptly capsized. It is said she hardly went a boat's length before she was flat on her side and swamped. Of course a light boat like 'Alpha' should be ballasted by her crew moving to windward, and has to be luffed or have her sheet eased in the puffs, but when properly got under way might carry her sail in a fair breeze. Captain Nat used to tease Charlie Barr about that incident in the years to come when Captain Charles Barr had become the greatest of all yacht captains." (Source: Herreshoff, L. Francis. The Wizard of Bristol. The Life and Achievements of Nathanael Greene Herreshoff, together with An Account of Some of the Yachts he Designed. New York, 1953, p. 167-168.)

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Re: Tom Brightmans interview
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2009, 04:44:50 AM »
I'll bet she's right....See link.... Alpha raced as a 21 footer - so I'd guess that was where TB said "class" - Here Alpha and Venessa - both HMCo 21 footers race....

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9807E7D61538E233A25750C0A9619C94639ED7CF

Although TB's description is of a "sharp Keel and spade rudder" - doesn't sound like a centerboarder....
« Last Edit: August 07, 2009, 01:11:20 PM by Adam »

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Re: Tom Brightmans interview
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2009, 11:48:03 AM »
I would agree ... that description doesn't sound like a centerboarder