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Herreshoff Forum => Herreshoff Designs Not Built By HMCo => Topic started by: grady on July 24, 2009, 03:52:59 AM
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looking at a herreshoff pilot boat looks kinda like a small tug can't seem to find much about this boat
on-line, how many were made thanks for any help
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Grady: I'm not familiar with a pilot boat. You say it looks like a tug ... it is a power boat? Was it built by the Herreshoff Maufacturing Company or some other builder? Does it have a hull number? Do you have a photo?
-Steve
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I'd bet Halsey's "Herreshoff America" hull. N&W built at least 4 different boats with that hull - The "America" Catboat, the "Eagle" sloop, the cat ketch "Scout", and a small tug/pilot boat (name unknown). The Scout and the Tug are pretty rare as far as I know (in all the years I've only seen 1 tug and two scouts)....
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Found a few pics of one on the net...
http://www.uncommonboats.com/website/article.asp?id=189
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Yes, the Herreshoff America, Eagle, Scout and Pilot all use the same hulls! The non-sailing hulls do not have centerboards of course.
HMM uses a Pilot as its launch.
We get more calls regarding the America than any other of our older (post HMCo) designs.
A thumbnail from our archive on the Pilot:
(http://herreshoffdesigns.com/Files/CIMG0823small.JPG)
Adam Langerman
Herreshoff Designs, Inc.
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Thanks to all replys.
Adam the pics you sent are the boat i saw.boat has been sitting in owners yard a long time. Has gas engine that doesn't run. Am thinking of making offer.Would like to restore to seaworthy condition.The few i have seen on line are really nice looking.Any links would be helpful.Thanks in advance
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Adam
Also the mast on this one is aluminum do you know if this original or not, i believe the year is mid 70s.
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Hi Grady - Cant say for sure but since the HA catboat had an Alum rig, id say the alum spar on this one was probably original.
Interesting note - I read many years ago (CBA Forum maybe) that Halsey used one of his grandfathers hulls - an early HMCo. racing cat - as the model. Adam L. - would that be true? and if so which hull #?
I always had a soft spot for Cape Cod Cats (at one time an obsession :o) . I've been told that once the engine well was pluged these hulls compared very well with the Marshall 18...
The Scout...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/3021722595_e6ec57db7b_o.jpg
The Eagle...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3450/3752998918_789495a4ef_o.jpg
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Interesting note - I read many years ago (CBA Forum maybe) that Halsey used one of his grandfathers hulls - an early HMCo. racing cat - as the model. Adam L. - would that be true? and if so wich hull #?
I've heard this as well, but have never seen any documentation regarding which model was used.
Adam L.
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Adam L
I went to the HM today,what a great place, found out a little more, everyone was very friendly and helpful, was able to board the launch.
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One of the CBA members put this up on the web - so there are at least 6 production boats built from that hull:
the "America", "Eagle", "Scout", "Pilot", "Yacht Club Launch", and "Bay Fisherman"....Plus they offered "Custom" configurations.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2432/3832817177_dd083bee25_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/3833611230_ac9b4baec5_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3179/3833611264_d38ac101b0_o.jpg
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Yes, the Herreshoff America, Eagle, Scout and Pilot all use the same hulls! The non-sailing hulls do not have centerboards of course.
Pilot Model - 1974
Was the Westerbeke diesel engine a 25 hp ? If so is 8 to 9 knots average speed @ 1800 rpms ?
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Yes, the Herreshoff America, Eagle, Scout and Pilot all use the same hulls! The non-sailing hulls do not have centerboards of course.
HMM uses a Pilot as its launch.
We get more calls regarding the America than any other of our older (post HMCo) designs.
A thumbnail from our archive on the Pilot:
Adam - do you think the Harbor Pilot - Restored - as a Retail Market ? I do Restorations on small boats for resale !
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Well as a business man everything has a market - its just is that maket > then your cost/time....Figuring out that profit margin is the real trick now isn't it. :o
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Well as a business man everything has a market - its just is that maket > then your cost/time....Figuring out that profit margin is the real trick now isn't it. :o
There is no trick - you can never really make a profit ,if you take into account " Time & Materials " in the boat buisness!
To me it is " Therapy " ! I usually keep 50 % of my Restorations for about a year , then put them up for sale . The last two daysailors that I restored were a PEEP Hen 14 and a BAY Hen 21 by Nimble , I had a waiting list of " Hensnest " customers for both boats and sold them after I played with them for about a year .
Also Restored Three -Boston Whalers 13 footer's , Aquasport 20 and a Mako 19 CC ( all power boats ) ! And had a market for all of them ( very easy to sell ) .
So, Adam - is there a following on these Herreshoff 18 footers i.e. Harbor Pilot ?
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Yes, the Herreshoff America, Eagle, Scout and Pilot all use the same hulls! The non-sailing hulls do not have centerboards of course.
Pilot Model - 1974
Was the Westerbeke diesel engine a 25 hp ? If so is 8 to 9 knots average speed @ 1800 rpms ?
Answer to above question is YES ! Standard is 15 hp and upgrade is 25 hp !
Question ? - The rule-of-thumb which states that, around hull speed, an increase of one knot requires twice the horsepower suggests that decreasing speed from seven to six knots would give a fuel use of about 1/2 gph. ( Average 1 gph )
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Well they are very popular in the "America" version as a Cape Cod Cat. The Pilot - as far as I know - was quite rare so a "following" may be a stretch. Like most classic hulls there are places - like New England in general where these types of boats would probably sell better then others. If it were me - yeah I'd love a neat classic like this - put a small 12-16hp diesel in her, maybe some trap strakes, a pot haul, and a nice hemp push on the bow and it would be a head turner.
About 10 years ago I re-did one of the old 17' "Finest Kind" CC Novi hulls (Later the Stagepoint 17, and recently the Seaway Stagepoint 17). I got more comments from passer by's then any other boat I've ever owned. I fished her hard for 5 years and sold her.
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Well they are very popular in the "America" version as a Cape Cod Cat.
Herreshoff America Catboat - $8500 (Long Island, NY)
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Date: 2009-09-12, 7:16AM EDT
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Herreshoff America Catboat, Nowalk and Williams 1974, 2007 8 HP Tohatsu in well, 2007 Thurston sail with flag, everything needed to sail, Great shape, presently in the water, south shore Long Island, $8500, Please call for more information, 516-805-9690
Location: Long Island, NY
Adam - there are two photo's of this boat on craigslist under South Jersey < I can't obtain them to post on this site. Cardinal Joe
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About 10 years ago I re-did one of the old 17' "Finest Kind" CC Novi hulls (Later the Stagepoint 17, and recently the Seaway Stagepoint 17). I got more comments from passer by's then any other boat I've ever owned. I fished her hard for 5 years and sold her.
I'm looking for a Seaway 24 Express model to purchase ! And i went to Nova Scotia last year and took many Pic's of Novi Hull's , I hope to Restore one in the near furture . They remind me of the Herreshoff 18 Hull in some ways , they both belly out and Bow & Stern up a little .
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One of the CBA members put this up on the web -
Adam - What is CBA ?
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Joe:
1. CBA = Catboat Association (http://www.catboats.org/).
2. Check out their "Cats for sale" section for lots of Herreshoff America versions.
3. The Seaway 24 is nice hull. I just sold (last year) an Albemarle 24 I re-did - not a novi but a nice hull none the less.
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Joe:
1. CBA = Catboat Association (http://www.catboats.org/).
2. Check out their "Cats for sale" section for lots of Herreshoff America versions.
3. The Seaway 24 is nice hull. I just sold (last year) an Albemarle 24 I re-did - not a novi but a nice hull none the less.
Thank You !
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My Pilot - My Vin# on the boat is TSPHP 06308 74 - that would make a 1974 production / 1975 model year - my Title states 1975 as the year of the vessel ? If I'm reading the Vin # corret - than the boat is Hull # 08 and the 06 = June the 3 is a fuller # and the 74 is the year ! ?????????
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Also my Harbor Pilot -Title states Make " SQU " which = SQUADRON YACHTS,INC Why does it not state " Herreshoff " ???????
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They were not Herreshoff built - Halsey Herreshoff designed them for the builder(s) in the 1970's. Several builders made them actually but the two main builders were Squadron, and N&W. Horizon I believe was the last (and still owns the molds I think?). If I remember correctly Horizon changed it quite a bit for their "Horizon Cat".
To complicate things, it is somewhat unsubstantiated that Halsey used one of his Grandfathers racing catboat models for the design (probable early cat 1870’s-1890’s). How much he changed the original hull design is unknown. I am highly curious though as too which hull # it was...One of the things to ask next time I’m at the museum.
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My Pilot - My Vin# on the boat is TSPHP 06308 74 - that would make a 1974 production / 1975 model year - my Title states 1975 as the year of the vessel ? If I'm reading the Vin # corret - than the boat is Hull # 08 and the 06 = June the 3 is a fuller # and the 74 is the year ! ?????????
CORRECTION - TSPHP 06308 74 = Hull # 63 , 08 = August , 74 = Year !
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Scout Ketch for sale - first one I've ever heard of...
http://maine.craigslist.org/boa/1400760462.html (http://maine.craigslist.org/boa/1400760462.html)
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This one is for sale in Idaho of all places.... See the CBA site - ad 150-55...
(http://old.catboats.org/images/c4s_images/c4s_150/150-55-photo4web(McFall).jpg)
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This one is for sale in Idaho of all places.... See the CBA site - ad 150-55...
(http://old.catboats.org/images/c4s_images/c4s_150/150-55-photo4web(McFall).jpg)
Hey, Look what's for sale...1974 Herreshoff Scout 18’ Cat Ketch!
(http://www.windwardshore.net/forumphotos/scout/P1010032.JPG)
(http://www.windwardshore.net/forumphotos/scout/P1010031.JPG)
(http://www.windwardshore.net/forumphotos/scout/P1010020.JPG)
http://www.windwardshore.net/forumphotos/scout/P1010032.JPG
http://www.windwardshore.net/forumphotos/scout/P1010020.JPG
http://www.windwardshore.net/forumphotos/scout/P1010031.JPG
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Pic's of my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot 18 , I will start restoring this pilot over the Winter Season.
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07622_edited.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07621_edited.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07618_edited.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07619_edited.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07623_edited.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07620_edited.jpg)
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In-water pic's of Herreshoff Harbor Pilot 18 - clean & oil teak , removed mast to fix anchor light.
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07659.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07658.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07657.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07660.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07656.jpg)
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Wow, nice job with the woodwork already....Pretty boat!
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Adam - This is what I want my Herreshoff Pilot to look like :
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/008-1.jpg)
Now that is a Sweet Looking Rig ! Cardinal Joe (http://Cardinal Joe) ;)
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Herreshoff Harbor Pilot 18 -For sale >Calling all purists. Hull #2 is for sale. Original owner has maintained boat meticulously over the years. Recent gelcoat in cockpit and red Awlgrip on hull makes this classic shine. Powered by Yanmar 3 cylinder 27 HP she will cruise at 10 knots. Spar and boom makes hauling lobster pots a snap. Forward cabin affords small berth.18' Herreshoff Harbor Pilot
Year: 1974
Current Price: US$ 14,900
Located In E. Dennis, MA
Hull Material: Fiberglass
Engine/Fuel Type: Single Diesel
YW# 56609-2125182
(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/1/2/5/1/2125182_1.jpg?1253888567000)
(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/1/2/5/1/2125182_3.jpg?1253888607000)
(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/1/2/5/1/2125182_7.jpg?1256921519000)
(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/1/2/5/1/2125182_5.jpg?1253888675000)
(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/1/2/5/1/2125182_2.jpg?1253888607000)
(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/2/1/2/5/1/2125182_4.jpg?1253888675000)
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One of the folks over at Flickr put this up of the HMM Launch:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2553/4084341248_4394c29f29_b.jpg)
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Another Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ! Located in Atlantic City , New Jersey.
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSCN4747_edited.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSCN4744_edited.jpg)
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Took photo of Hull - to match Gelcoat Color ! I think it is a Good color Match ! ( above Pic's ) . I'm going to add 15 coats of Vanish to the teak trim around the new windows .
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Older%20Pilot%20Foto/DSC07762_edited.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Older%20Pilot%20Foto/DSC07747_edited.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07761_edited.jpg)
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Patching holes with glass and adding new deck bed in cabin >
(http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=177.0;attach=43;image)
(http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=177.0;attach=45;image)
(http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=177.0;attach=49;image)
(http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=177.0;attach=47;image)
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Repair & Replacement Issues > Rudder - has a crack at the bottom & Bottom Pintle - Bronze has worn down to half of its size !
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07763_edited.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07749_edited.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Older%20Pilot%20Foto/DSC07835_edited.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07766_edited.jpg)
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(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07765_edited.jpg)
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Another Sighting - Herreshoff Harbor Pilot was located in City Island ,NY ,but is moving to Booth Harbor , Maine !
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/dk0004-1.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/d0501-1.jpg)
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(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07590.jpg)
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(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07600.jpg)
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Another Sighting - Herreshoff Harbor Pilot in Providence,RI .
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/chilepepper7-6-05.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/chilepepper27-6-05.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/Yanmar30hp.jpg)
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(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/Shaftstuffingbox.jpg)
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Herreshoff Harbor Pilot " Hook " in located on the North side of Cape Cod .
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/008.jpg)
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Another Sighting - Herreshoff Harbor Pilot - located in Atlantic City , New Jersey .
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSCN4747_edited.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSCN4744_edited.jpg)
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Another Sighting - Herreshoff Harbor Pilot - Located in Hyannis MA at Nauset Marine.
" No Cat Rudder "
( Most of the Herreshoff Harbor Pilots have a Cat Like Rudder )
But this one was manufactured like that !
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/IMG_3707.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/IMG_1238.jpg)
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Herreshoff cat design Series -might be the perfect boat to do "The Great Loop" in..
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http://www.greatloop.com/ (http://www.greatloop.com/) You guy's do know what I mean?? The ultimate boat ride...
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If your interested in "the great loop" read the classic "A Year in a Yawl". This is the true story of the first time anyone did it - late 1890's. Whats facinating is it was four young boys who built a Yawl by themselves - and take off - Tom Sawyer-esk. The first edition is 1904 I believe, but re-prints can be found cheap.
Of course the best, IMO, written "Catboat Cruising" story is Plummers, "The Boy, Me, and the Cat". The CBA just put it back in print a few years back....
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I to have an 18' Harbor Pilot. I picked her up two years ago. It has a new 20HP yanmar 2 cylinder. The hull was brush painted blue. I removed the blue and she is waiting to get shot. I run her two summer ago; but put on the hard for the retro; just got sidetracked with other projects.
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My hull number is TSPHP0090374. So I guess that means hull #9.
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Yes - yours is Hull # 9 ! Location of home Port ? History of this Pilot ? i.e. Owner's ?
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=22251&d=12605)
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=22250&d=1260574023)
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=22265&d=1260655793)
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I found this photo of what I think is a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ? It is a poor photo and not very clear .
(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd432/jcannavo/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/IMG_3760b_zpstywilukm.jpg)
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I was in the model room this weekend and looked up the 'America' model. It was a new model in 1970, the text on the back reads:
Herreshoff America July 19, 1970
18 ft Cat Boat
for Nowak & Williams Model by A. S. deW H.
Scale 3/4" = 1'
Very nice model.
(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs003.snc3/11035_1264739731154_1009563903_1898530_766926_n.jpg)
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Adam L. - I thought Halsey designed her?
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Perhaps a joint effort?
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Make sense. I was told Halsey had a hand in my boat as well....
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That is One Sweet Looking Hull !
Someone on CBA stated - there are 150 Herreshoff America ?
I wonder if the Hull # on these Herreshoff Hulls are the # of hulls produced for all six models or are they individual hull #'s for each model ?
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I think I'm missing a bronze bushing on the keel rudder port hole ?
(http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=177.0;attach=75;image)
(http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=177.0;attach=79;image)
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Most Pilot owners have added a Window > But I'm adding a Classic Looking Bronze Port Hole to the outer cabin bulk head wall ,so I can see sitting down .
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Older%20Pilot%20Foto/DSC07836_edited.jpg)
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Bow Thruster Unit !
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I purchase a top of the line Volvo Bow Thruster Unit - 5 hp , but it is just to big for the Herreshoff Harbor pilot ! The hull tube was 6in in dia. just to big of a hole , the Bow Thruster Unit fit just fine ! I'm going to order a Venus Bow Thruster Unit with : #Props: 1
Boat Length: 18 - 28 ft.
Drive: 12 V
Max. Run: 4 min.
Min. Tunnel Length: 8.5"
Motor: 1.5kW (2HP)
Thrust: 55 lbs.
Tunnel Dia.: 4-11⁄32" ID
Type: BOW2512 (Shown)
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When the snow clears a little I will run over to the boat and snap a shot of my rudder assembly. I don't remember a bushing. I think the rudder pintel just slips in the hole.
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That would be great ! Thanks Cardinal Joe
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In talking with other Herrshoff Harbor Pilot Owners on the Value of there Pilot's the Average Price Range is $ 6,500.00 to $ 25,000.00 for these Boats ! Base on overall Condition & Engine ( Replacement or Rebuilt ) & Diesel vs Gas ! Trailer is a Plus Asset . Cardinal Joe (ftp://Cardinal Joe)
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Hello Joe,
I visited little Toot. I do not have a bushing. The entire lower keel protector is solid bronze. The pintel just slips into the hole.
These are interesting little boats. Not fast, but plenty of character.
Happy New Year
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Little Toot > Thanks for the Keel / Rudder Hole information ! Cardinal Joe (http://Cardinal Joe)
Found a little more History on Little Toot > Originally Posted by THE ROAD
Two years ago I picked up a Harbor Pilot. It has a Yanmar 2 cylinder diesel with about 140 hours. The boat is a 1974 with the Red hull (it was blue; but a power washer blasted 95% of that off!) The hull will need to be painted as the gelcoat is shot (faded) My rudder was all cracked up. The repair was easy though. That consisted of grinding out the cracks, letting the thing dry out ( one year) filling the cracks and a layer of fiberglass cloth, followed by Interlux barrier coats (6) and sanding smooth. My brass parts are in good shape. It is a fun litle boat that will be back in the water this spring.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This boat was owned by a Governor of CT. Then someone in NY associated with the Botanical Gardens in NY I got it off a guy in MD. At one point the boat may have been registered in NJ. The guy in MD had the 20HP Yanmar installed. I get a lot of looks from the local yacht clubs on the north end of the Barnegat Bay. I was going to sell her; but have decided to do a resto. Mine looks in better shape then the one listed for 14K.
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Little Toot - Location / Home Port ? Brick , New Jersey Or Barnegat Bay , New Jersey ?
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The boat is docked in Seawood Harbor which is on the Barnegat Bay in Brick NJ.
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Well , I try to Wet Sand the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Hull with 80,1000,1200 and finally 2000 grit sand paper . Then Waxed the hull back to a lustre color , but the Red Gel Coat was just to damage / faded from the Sun & Salt water ! So, now I'm Re-sanding the hull and prepairing it for sparyed on Gelcoat a few layers at a time , until i put on 2 gallon of Red gelcoat then start sanding & waxing again ! Cardinal Joe
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(http://"http://Cardinal Joe")
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Added more Red Gelcoat by Spray Gun need 2 gallon ,then will Sand & Wax Hull !
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Problem > my spray gun maybe just fine for spraying AWLGRIP paint , but I need to thin out the Gel Coat to be able to paint it on the Pilot Hull . With spraying thin layers at a time and then sanding between Gel Coat layers, I’m just sanding off the Gel Coat itself! So, The Herreshoff Harbor Pilot is going to Wayne at “Jersey Cape Yachts “.
Wayne has a $ 1500.00 dollar Gel Coat Spray Gun that will dump Two gallons of Red Gel Coat on to the hull in no time, then add a layer of Poly- Clear Coat over the Gel Coat as a final touch !.
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I ran into the same problem. I sanded; but my gelcoat was shot. I would like to shoot red gelcoat; but I will have to paint. I have a buddy that is good with a spray gun at the right price.
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Hey Joe
Good idea letting someone else do the gelcoat work. I've done a couple of hulls and it is difficult work. You've got to build up layers with laminating gelcoat and then use a finish gelcoat or pva mold release to block air and allow a full hard cure. Then it's wetsand and power compound and polish. I've mixed Dura-tek clear coat with the last two layers to smooth out and add gloss to the finish so it sounds like the yard is going to do the job right and it'll be worth every dollar-especially since it's red.
That said, and you have an original finish that is easy to maintain, lasts a long time and does not require full side repaint like awlgrip and other surface paints.
I've seen your posts on another site and your doing a great job. I'm converting a 1970 America cat to picnic launch. The boat was beat and the hull had great lines. I'm re-gelcoating as well. I'll post some pics of my work in progress so you can see what I'm doing. I saw a launch online for sale that gave me the idea a couple of years ago. I think I have pics of that too. I'll post them here and on the other site.
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launchmaker > Please post up those pic's of " Herreshoff cat boats " ! and you are correct about letting a professional do the Gelcoat , money well spend ...
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For Sale - Herreshoff Harbor Pilot - " CHILE PEPPER " in Providence, RI.
$6000 as is, $7500 plus if > redo the varnish and "bristol" her up. YANMAR 30 HP, 1979 I think ?
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Chile Pepper for " Sale "
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Herreshoff Harbor Pilot " CHILE PEPPER " for Sale ... Nice looking Yanmar Diesel !
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YANMAR 30 HP Diesel is worth the price of the " Chile Pepper " for $6000.00 " As Is " !
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Cardinal Joe (http://Cardinal Joe)
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The Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ... it has arrived At “Jersey Cape Yachts Plant “next the Professional Gel Coat Job on the Hull ! Cardinal Joe (http://Cardinal Joe)
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I can't find a Herreshoff Bay Fisherman Photo or a Herreshoff Yacht Club Launch Photo.... Help !
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There are also Special editions (anniversary editions or some such) of the "Eagle" and "America" - They came with keroseen type navigation lamps, special woodwork, etc... They come up for sale once in awhile - I saw two this year....
You probably already have this but this site might give you some info on your hull as well:
http://www.herreshoffeagle.com/
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Adam - Love the Special Woodwork on these Classic Looking Herreshoff Cat Boats ! Do you know the "LOA" of the "Eagle" and "America" ? Looks larger than a Herreshoff 18 ....
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they are the same hull as your pilot. the bowsprit adds two or three feet.
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Took this photo , while vacation in Stowe Vermont ....
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Well, Another Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Slighting .... kinda ?
Vitalsigns
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Mystic Islands
Posts: 2,748
I was just watching an older movie with John Cusak "One Crazy Summer" and there was one of these boats in it. I would have never known it w/o this thread.
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And to confuse you even more, I have been told that Com-Pac bought the mold/design, highly modified it, and this is the Herreshoff America today:
http://www.com-pacyachts.com/trailerable-catboats/horizon-cat.html
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They bought the mold, and claim to have highly modified it / disposed of it - not the design! This is a point of contention.
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I'm not touching this one with a 10' pole.... ;)
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No that is a Marshall 22....Built in Padanaram, MA....VERY nice boats....Almost all cats get wheels at about this size and up as the weather helm gets excessive....They do make an 18 as well - and a wheel helm is an option on that one as well.
http://www.marshallcat.com/
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I heard there is a Herreshoff Yacht Club Launch that belongs to a Yacht Club across the harbor from City Island , NY 10464 ?
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Herreshoff Harbor Pilot - is getting 2 gallons of fresh gelcoat on Monday at " Jersey Cape Yacht Plant " in Lower Bank , NJ ! Wayne is first class in every thing he does ... so this is going to be Awesome Paint Job !
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CBA member posted... I have the opportunity to buy an old wooden boat that was designed
: by Herreshoff. The design is called the Eagle. I have never
: heard of it although I have been told it is similar to a
: Friendship Sloop. Any info would be appreciated, especially some
: sites where I could find some plans or pictures. I have e-mailed
: the research dept. at Mystic but have not heard back as of this
: writing. Anyone any ideas? Thanks (Eric Nelson)
I've been told that the Eagle is a rather traditional looking CATBOAT. Is this what you have? Cape Cod Shipbilding in Wareham, Massachusetts, purchased the rights to all of Herreshoff's designs several years back. They chose to produce some designs, and gave all the info on the larger boats to MIT.
Chapter Two-just found a line drawing in, "Boatwatch," a large collection of line drawings issued in 1979. I think that this is still updated and published from the author, Max Wade Averitt, here in San Jose. The original publisher was Charles Scribner & Sons.
INFO--22 ft - Herreshoff Eagle Sloop 22' 0" / 8' 0" /1'10" board up, 4'0" board down: FBG: displacement 2,700 lbs, ballast 700: sail area 320 sg ft, mast height 32' 6": sleep 2: Halsey C. Herreshoff design : built by Squadron Yachts Inc., Bristol, RI, (in production in 1979.) NOTICE THIS IS FIBREGLASS, so not your builder perhaps. If you can find anyone from Squadron Yachts, they may be able to tell you the history.
Steve Fisher
Cape Cod Shipbilding in Wareham, Massachusetts, purchased the rights to all of Herreshoff's designs several years back. They chose to produce some designs, and gave all the info on the larger boats to MIT.
Is there any truth in the above statement ? Cardinal Joe
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My understanding is this: CCSB only has the rights to the 12-1/2, the "S", and the "Fisher's Island Class", according to the legal documents. An open question is what is meant by the "Fisher's Island Class". MIT holds the plans for the other designs, and the ability to grant or deny access to them, but not the rights to the actual designs themselves.
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Yes and no.... Don’t confuse your Pilot, Herreshoff America, Scout, and Eagle, etc. (all designed by Halsey Herreshoff), with those designs of the Herreshoff Manufacturing Company (HMCo.) which is a different company/designer - and went out of business in 1946. HMCo. designs are primarily by Halsey's Grandfather - Nat Herreshoff, (and Some by Halsey's Father Sidney). No fiberglass sailboat was ever built by HMCo.
When the HMCo. went out of business in 1946 the rights to build some of the smaller vessels were sold to Cape Cod Shipbuilding (CCSB). These included the "S-Class", and most famously the 12 1/2 (among others). You will note in many of our posts we mention "Cape Cod Built" when referring to the 12 1/2 - this is because for several years after HMCo. closed, Cape Cod Shipbuilding produced them out of wood. Since they are not ORIGINAL HMCo. built boats we make note of them as such but don't add them to the registry. (although I'm trying to convince Steve to document them so we don't get them confused with the originals!)
Now to confuse you more, after the late 1940's Cape Cod Shipbuilding started building the 12 1/2 out of FIBERGLASS - and stopped all wood production. This essentially forfeited their exclusive right to the design (Simply put - because of the change of materials, it is not the same boat - according to the MA courts!). Although if you do build one out of wood you’ll need their permission - they still own the rights to the wood builds!
CCSB also had Sidney (after HMCo. closed) modify the Marlin, the Bulls-eye (a type of modified 12 1/2), as well as design a number of other boats (Halsey did some as well). These are ALL fiberglass, and while designed by members of the Herreshoff family, they are of course not original HMCo. built.
This link explains the legal issues :
http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/doc/CCSB_Rights.pdf
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WOW ...... :o Lots of Infor...... 8) Thanks - Steve & Adam .
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Gel Coated today 2/2/10 at Jersey Cape Custom Yacht ....
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Another Photo ......
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AWL-GRIP VS GEL-COAT .........
AwlGrip paint – Prep hull , spray , dry and looks great …..( if hull gets Scratched – need to paint the whole side of boat hull )
GelCoat paint – Prep hull, spray , dry and when lots of man hours of Long Block Hand Sanding of hull and polishing of hull ….. looks great …...( if hull gets scratched – just wet sand the spot )
Cardinal Joe (http://Cardinal Joe) ;D
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Jersey Cape Custom Yachts called yesterday, and told me that one side of my hull is Sanded & Polished …… and that the Hull looks like “GLASS “…. I hope to obtain more Photos’ after the Atlantic City Boat Show...... of this awesome Gel-Coat Job!
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Great Job - Thanks ... Jersey Cape Custom Yachts !
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Damm , In person the hull looks like a sheet of glass , if you put a watch face to the hull , you can read the time !
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Herreshoff Harbor Pilot " SWEET "
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Hull -Sanded & Polished ....
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=24192&d=1265475955)
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This Spring ...... I'm going to use the " Farrow System " on the bottom of the hull to remove years of old paint ..... then Barrier Coat the bottom & paint the bottom ....
1) - Inter Protect 200E ( Barrier Coat )- is Gray color
InterProtect® 2000E is a unique two-part epoxy designed to reduce the potential of water absorption by fiberglass hulls.
2) - BottomKote Classic is Black color !
Fiberglass Bottomkote® with Irgarol®
is a hard modified-epoxy antifouling paint that provides excellent season long protection
3) - Micron Extra is Blue color! .... combines the slime blocking power of Biolux™ with controlled solubility copolymer antifouling paint technology to provide long-lasting, full-spectrum defense against fouling organisms. The antifouling ingredients are chemically bonded into Micron Extra’s copolymer matrix, which is engineered to gradually wear away as the boat moves through the water, much like a bar of soap.
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Summary of the above posting ;
After taking all the paint off the bottom ( Farrow Blasting System ) .... next is Inter Protect 200E barrier coat. Then a single layer of BottomKote Classic hard epoxy in a different color (Black) will be put on. This will be on the bottom forever. At that point several coats of Micron Extra (Blue) will be put on. This way when the ablative paint wears thin/away you can tell by seeing the Black color come thru. Taking off 10 or so years of bottom paint I will picked up about a half knot at cruise at the same RPM. A smooth bottom will save money in the long run. Without a different color under it may not be able to tell. Another bonus of starting with a bare bottom.
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Harbor Pilot ,Harbor Yacht Launch and Westerbeke engine
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I was talking to the Westerbeke Factory Rep. at the Atlantic City boat show on Friday. I asked if he knew of any Herreshoff Harbor Pilots or Harbor Launch’s …. He stated that just last week he was on a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot in Round Pond , Maine and that ….. Boston Yacht Club - Located in Marblehead, MA - founded 1866 had /have? Two Boats - Herreshoff Harbor Yacht Launch’s, shuttles boaters to and from the mooring ball’s.
On another note, I ask the Westerbeke Rep. about my 1974 Westerbeke Diesel engine in my Pilot …. He stated that there were two Westerbeke motors back in the early 70‘s …. One was produce in the USA – 25 hp and the other was a British Taxi Cab Engine – 30 hp that was bullet proof …. I ‘m going to send him a picture of my Westerbeke motor to see if it is a British model . If it is stamped W30 then it is a British engine ….which is really a 30 hp motor …..
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From: Paul Guthrie <pguthrie01@snet.net>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:33:19 -0800 (PST)
To: Joseph Cannavo<jcannavo@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Did you ever purchase the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ?
Paul - were was it located ( what state ) ? Do you know the year ,
was it a gas or diesel engine ,what HP ? Cardinal Joe (http://Cardinal Joe)......
Boat is in CT if i remember it was 80hp 1972 maybe 74.Boat was in real bad shape deck gone maybe stringers as well, left uncovered over 10 years couldn't come to reasonable price with seller
To: "Paul Guthrie" <pguthrie01@snet.net>
Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 3:04 PM
Thanks for getting back to me , so what was the price and did have a diesel or gas motor ?
Paul Guthrie to me
show details Jan 15
$2500 plus i would need to have it removed because the trailer was shot.The engine was gas and a Chrysler Simca 80 hp
Anyone know of this Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ?...... 80 hp ?...... Standard is 15 hp & Upgrade was 30 hp but , 80 hp ... WOW ? Cardinal Joe
herreshoff 18' pilot boat
Posted By: paul <pguthrie01@snet.net>
Date: Wednesday, 12 August 2009, at 9:02 p.m.
looking at a herreshoff 18' pilot boat to buy needs new deck and has chrysler semca engine any info on this boat or direction to info is needed.
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Well it appears that I have a ...... British Taxi Cab Engine – 30 hp ( bullet proof )…. In my 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ....... Photo's are identical to the W-30 ...... I still need to look on my Westerbeke engine to see if it is Stamped W-30 .....
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This Herreshoff Harbor Pilot has a BMW Diesel 46 hp .... Most Pilot have Replaced there original engine with a YANMAR 30 HP Diesel motor....
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Wow, standard engine HP was 15 hp, Optional is 25 hp to 30 hp! But, 46 HP is to the Moon! What is your average cruising speed?
Joe, about 6.5 knots, the rudder is below the water line beneath the swim platform. The boat is an absolute tank, if you get stuck in sand it just plows off. Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Cannavo
To: 'Jack Maher'
It is an 18 gallon tank. The engine is the BMW D 50-2, 46hp has a 15"prop and could tow a destroyer. I'll be on the boat Wednesday and get better pictures[/b].
Best,
Jack
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Hey Joe
Good idea letting someone else do the gelcoat work. I've done a couple of hulls and it is difficult work. You've got to build up layers with laminating gelcoat and then use a finish gelcoat or pva mold release to block air and allow a full hard cure. Then it's wetsand and power compound and polish. I've mixed Dura-tek clear coat with the last two layers to smooth out and add gloss to the finish so it sounds like the yard is going to do the job right and it'll be worth every dollar-especially since it's red.
That said, and you have an original finish that is easy to maintain, lasts a long time and does not require full side repaint like awlgrip and other surface paints.
Custom GelCoat Paint Job means Somewhat Expensive = 33.30 hours of labor X $ 130.00 per/hr
and $ 161.28 in Parts & Materials ......
But , I have to say it is a First Class Job and I'm very happy with the work that was done on my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot...
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Date Name Billing Status Duration Notes
Cardinal Yacht Sales:Herreshoff Pilot House
YARD SALES:Yard labor- SKILLED:01
01/29/2010 FELIX QUINTANNILLA UNEZ Unbilled 7:45 Hull-sand for spray
01/29/2010 CHAD DUTTON Unbilled 3:00 Tape up plastic for gelcoat
01/29/2010 DAVID L POLEY Unbilled 1:00 Cover ready for spray
01/29/2010 FELIX QUINTANNILLA UNEZ Unbilled 3:00 Clean & Prep for paint
02/01/2010 SANTOS OMAR BACA Unbilled 6:00 Prep & paint
02/02/2010 FELIX QUINTANNILLA UNEZ Unbilled 7:45 Sand /compound
02/03/2010 FELIX QUINTANNILLA UNEZ Unbilled 5:00 sand & finishing cutting
Total YARD SALES:Yard labor- SKILLED:01 33:30
Total Labor - Cardinal Yacht Sales:Herreshoff Pilot House hrs 33:30
Parts
1000 GRIT 5" 16.64
220 GRIT 5" 9.32
320 GRIT 5" 9.32
500 GRIT 5" 15.55
600 GRIT 5" WITH HOLSE 15.64
800 GRIT 5" 15.64
Plastic sheeting 23.98
1.5" sure tape 18.22
3M high gloss compound 36.98
161.29
Total Parts
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Well the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot is back home at Cardinal ..... Going to pull the Westerbeke Diesel out for overhaul ..... and start working on the Cabin .... Cardinal Joe (http://Cardinal Joe)
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Total Labor - Cardinal Yacht Sales:Herreshoff Pilot House hrs 33:30 > Jersey Cape Custom Yacht ( actually that is not a lot of Hours for the work they did to my Pilot ! )....
Plus the 50 hours that my Restoration team spend on the Hull , before it went to Jersey Cape Custom Yacht Plant ...... Oh . Well live & learn ....... Like i have stated before to Adam .....Time & Material = " Therapy " ....... Cardinal Joe (http://Cardinal Joe) :)
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Saw your post about a Harbor Pilot in NYC. I know you posted awhile ago but I wanted to try. Have been looking for one for 8 years. i am in the RI area and i am willing to travel the eastern seaboard.
Please let me know if you have a line still on this boat or any others if you would.
Thanks,
Cortney Stanford - cbs24@fullchannel.net
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(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=22333&d=1260899639)
This Herreshoff Harbor Pilot has a BMW Diesel 46 hp .... Most Pilot have Replaced there original engine with a YANMAR 30 HP Diesel motor....
Wow, standard engine HP was 15 hp, Optional is 25 hp to 30 hp! But, 46 HP is to the Moon! What is your average cruising speed?
Joe, about 6.5 knots, the rudder is below the water line beneath the swim platform. The boat is an absolute tank, if you get stuck in sand it just plows off. Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Cannavo
To: 'Jack Maher'
It is an 18 gallon tank. The engine is the BMW D 50-2, 46hp has a 15"prop and could tow a destroyer. I'll be on the boat Wednesday and get better pictures.
Best,
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Cannavo
To: 'Jack Maher'
Cc: 'Joe Cannavo'
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:16 PM
Subject: RE: Herreshoff Harbor Pilot
Jack - what are you asking for your Herreshoff harbor pilot ? , I know of someone looking for one ....
Joe,
$6,500... no new pictures...it's covered up now. hope your getting your's shaped up ok.[/b]
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Most Pilot have Replaced there original engine with a YANMAR 30 HP Diesel motor....
But there are other motor options ; the Universal B- Diesel Series Continuous Quality Power ( M- 25XPB Diesel Engine)= 25 hp for $9955.00 installed by me at Cardinal Yacht Sales Marina ......
Universal B- Series - is the maker of the world famous " Atomic-4 " and pioneers in premium marine diesel propulsion ...
if your looking to replace that aging Atomic 4 , the Universal B- Series is still the boaters choice for atomic-4 replacements .... The M-35B ( $ 11,106.00), M3-20B ($10,782.00 ) and M-25XPB ( $ 11,402.00 )
Also , another engine that will fix the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot is a NANNI Diesel - 21.3 kw ( 29 hp ) model N3.30 - Price is $9000.00 not installed ......
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Pilot Rudder .......
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filled in the bottom of the rudder with Teak saw dust & exopy,when glassed over.....
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My orginial photo's of my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ....
1974 - Herreshoff Harbor Pilot - It has a lifting Boom for Lobster or Crab pots hauling . Inboard diesel - Westerbeke - 4 cyl. 25 hp with a Heat Exchanger unit . Model - four 91 , Spec. AS7-71CR .
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Cortney Stanford - cbs24@fullchannel.net - in the RI area seaboard.
Asked why the door frame is differ on Chile pepper & Sky King -it has a curve at the top of the door ?
I never notice that before , but he is correct ...... Maybe a year model change ? Pic's below :
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4 ) -Believe it or not it's still at the pai9nter's shop. All he is doing is painting the hull but He is an in demand painter and I'm a little project. Soon though.
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Cannavo
To: 'Scott Silvia'
Cc: 'Joe Cannavo'
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 5:31 PM
Subject: RE: Herreshoff 18
3 ) - Any Update on your Herreshoff 18 ?
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From: Scott Silvia [mailto:silv9748@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:52 PM
To: Joe Cannavo
Subject: Re: Herreshoff 18
2 ) -Actually we don't have any. It was sunk in the keys in Wilma and we bought it and had it sitting in the carport. Just sent it to the painter to get blister fix, barrier coated and painted. Still have a lot to do.
Remind us later and we will send pics.
Scott Silvia
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Cannavo
To: silv9748@bellsouth.net
Cc: 'Joe Cannavo'
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:36 PM
Subject: Herreshoff 18
1)- Can you send me some Pic's of your Herreshoff 18 ! Thanks Cardinal Joe
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I'm going to start posting Photo's of some of my past & present restoration project boat's ..... On the Herreshoff Registry Forum Disscussion Board..... " WHATEVER " .....
Starting with a " 1960 Fletcher 16 ft Wooden Comet Class " that I'm presently Restoring ..... Cardinal Joe (http://Cardinal Joe)
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Tillotson OM-31 Carb for Chrysler 80HP Inboard
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Cadet
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2
Tillotson OM-31 Carb for Chrysler 80HP Inboard
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Hi,
It seems I have a one of a kind boat and engine. The boat is a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot 18', manufactured in 1974, and it is powered by a Chrysler 80HP inboard direct shaft. This engine was originally used on SIMCA's.
I would like a carb rebuild kit for the carbs (there are 2 of them), the model number is OM-31A and OM-32A, made by Tillotson in Toledo, Ohio.
Could you help me on finding parts/kits for those carbs?
Thanks,
Andre.
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Re: Tillotson OM-31 Carb for Chrysler 80HP Inboard
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Mine is a West Bend but I starting to think there the same. Here's a picture
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Yamnar 30 Hp - 3 cyl.
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Volvo 25 HP - 2 Cyl.
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New guy here.
I'm looking for one of those Herreshoff Harbor Pilot design boats.
It's 18 ft long, has an inboard, a small pilot house forward and a
huge catboard style outboard rudder.
They were made by Nauset Marine and Squadron Yachts.
I have a 1957 Lone Star Cruise Master to trade or as a down
payment.
contact Mark E at markeoffice@yahoo.com
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........ North Cove Yacht Club ...........
In 2001 the Club sold the existing launch and replaced it with a Herreshoff Pilot 18 ft. launch.
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Looking for a herreshoff harbor pilot Looking for a harbor pilot....Live or injured.....And hopefully east of the mississippi. Please contact me , tom taylor......TRACTORSETC@aol.com
Joseph Cannavo to TRACTORSETC
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Tom > have you found a Pilot ? Check out the Herreshoff Registry -
under Specific Herreshoff Vessels
-Herreshoff 18 .Posting.... I do know of two that are up for Sale .
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Located another Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ..CB Haws
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I live in a rather exclusive area of Brick NJ. I have 100 feet on the water and just got reassessed. My freaking taxes went down? Sure taxes are high; but I have a 35 Bertram, a 20 foot shamrock, 17' Yankee Dory, an 18' Herreshoff Harbor Pilot, 2 kayaks, a SeaDoo XP and a paddle boat. .....
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Located another Herreshoff Harbor Pilot..... Romania ?
Perete | Facebook - I got old, and settled for a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot... "Petunia" is the joy of my life, and I don't mind flipping the key on her Yanmar diesel. ...
ro-ro.facebook.com/wall.php?id=2256265593 - Romania -
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Subject: RE: Herreshoff Harbor Pilot
Thanks Jack – do you know from your identification # on the hull … what # your pilot is ?
I do not. I'll trust you with the boat number of my registration 1985 Nauset @@@HP115@585 Engine designation from same source is 1984 BMW 1951 35 inboard diesel
There were two of those engine's used, mine was the bigger 3 cylinder D-50. I have the shop manual too. Call Nauset with those numbers and I'm sure they can tell you.
1985 model. 45hp That is the only number I have. I'll call Nauset on Monday, unless you already have.
To: David Deschamps
Cc: aaron@nausetmarine.com ...Can you tell me what the hull number is on my 1985 Pilot Harbor is? My registration # is @@@HP115@585.
Jack - That is your legal hull # @@@ is our designation code ,hp stands for harbour pilot, 115 is the production number ,but they start at 101 so you are number 4 the @ is the month(xxx) and the 585 is an 1985 model year built in 1985, if it was 485 it would have been built in 84 I hope this explains things if not give me another shout
Dave Deschamps
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Located another Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ... Palm Coast FL. Hull # 49 ....
cardinal joe, my pilot boat is a `74 it had a volvo 4cyl gas engine (25hp) in it that was froze up completely. I installed a 3 cyl small diesel i think it is a 18 h.p. it has a white hull with red trim. The boat is in Palm Coast FL. the boat was bought over from New Port Beach, Calif. about 10 years ago. It appeared to have two or three owners before this sale to my friend in FL. I now have 160 hours on the new engine. it needs alot of teak work which I don`t get to as i enjoy using it so much. my computer skills are limited and i will have one of the grandkids help me post a pic next time they are over. again thanks for your reply best al
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Adam , Adam L and Steve – I’m confused about the following data :
Nowalk & Williams Company and SQUADRON YACHTS,INC – were builders of these six models Hull’s – in the early 70’s thru early 80’s both from Bristol, Rhode Island ! So, in 1985 Nauset Marine Inc – who are boat builders from Cape Cod , Massachusetts. – started producing a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot – starting the Hull # at 101 and we know that Sky King (Hyannis MA at Nauset Marine ) was Hull # 115 …. So, where did Nauset Marine – obtain the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Mold/Hull to build these Pilot’s and did they Sell the Mould/Hull to "Horizon Cat".???
DATA Information so far obtained :
1) - Herreshoff America July 19, 1970 – 18 ft Cat boat Hull for Nowak & Williams Model by A. S. deW H.
2) - Nowak & Williams – started building the Pilot in 1974 – because the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot that is for sale on Yacht World – stated it is Hull # 2 (18' Herreshoff Harbor Pilot –year; 1974 , current price ; US $ 14,900 , Located In E. Dennis, MA
3) - My Pilot title states - " SQU " which = SQUADRON YACHTS,INC – my Hull # TSPHP 06308 74 = Hull # 63 , 08 = August , 74 = Year !
4) - Little Toot – My hull number is TSPHP0090374. So I guess that means hull #9.
5) - Adam – stated ; two main builders were Squadron, and N&W. Horizon I believe was the last (and still owns the molds I think?). If I remember correctly Horizon changed it quite a bit for their "Horizon Cat".
6) – Jack – do you know from your identification # on the hull … what # your pilot is ?
I do not. I'll trust you with the boat number of my registration 1985 Nauset @@@HP115@585 Engine designation from same source is 1984 BMW 1951 35 inboard diesel
7) - Dave Deschamps – from Nauset Marine –has stated the following : Jack (owner of Sky King)…. That is your legal hull # @@@ is our designation code ,hp stands for harbour pilot, 115 is the production number ,but they start at 101 so you are number 4 the @ is the month(@@@) and the 585 is an 1985 model year built in 1985, if it was 485 it would have been built in 84 I hope this explains .., things if not give me another shout Dave …
8) – I think that Dave Deschamps – may have miss printed above the # 4 and it should be really # 14 … i.e. 101 -115 = 14 ? Or did he mean that the Sky King was built on (@@@) month , 4 th day of 1985 ?
9) ????????????????? Cardinal Joe
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Don't know for sure but my guess is When Squadron went under Nauset purchased the mould. Nauset builds/built a whole bunch of power boats of similar Novi/Downeast hulls (I always was partial to their 27). As far as I know they never built a sailing version (IE Scout, America, Eagle etc.). I heard the America mould was in Florida for years before Compac (Horizon Cat) got it - but I don't think anyone actually built any....
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Joe - Nauset purchased the Harbor Pilot, America, Eagle and Scout molds from Squadron Yachts in the early 80's. Nauset built a handful of Pilots,America's and Downeasters(Eagles), the Scout never went into production. The America molds were later sold and the Scout, Downeaster and pilot molds were later scraped do to thier poor condition.Sky Kings' hull number started at 111, not 101 as I stated, My mistake, sorry never to happen again! Any other questions give me a shout I'll do my best to answer them.
Cardinal Joe
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Re: herreshoff 18'
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Adam , Adam L and Steve – I’m confused about the following data :
Nowalk & Williams Company and SQUADRON YACHTS,INC – were builders of these six models Hull’s – in the early 70’s thru early 80’s both from Bristol, Rhode Island ! So, in 1985 Nauset Marine Inc – who are boat builders from Cape Cod , Massachusetts. – started producing a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot – starting the Hull # at 101 and we know that Sky King (Hyannis MA at Nauset Marine ) was Hull # 115 …. So, where did Nauset Marine – obtain the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Mold/Hull to build these Pilot’s and did they Sell the Mold/Hull to "Horizon Cat".
DATA Information so far obtained :
1) - Herreshoff America July 19, 1970 – 18 ft Cat boat Hull for Nowak & Williams Model by A. S. deW H.
2) - Nowak & Williams – started building the Pilot in 1974 – because the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot that is for sale on Yacht World – stated it is Hull # 2 (18' Herreshoff Harbor Pilot –year; 1974 , current price ; US $ 14,900 , Located In E. Dennis, MA
3) - My Pilot title states - " SQU " which = SQUADRON YACHTS,INC – my Hull # TSPHP 06308 74 = Hull # 63 , 08 = August , 74 = Year !
4) - Little Toot – My hull number is TSPHP0090374. So I guess that means hull #9.
5) - Adam – stated ; two main builders were Squadron, and N&W. Horizon I believe was the last (and still owns the molds I think?). If I remember correctly Horizon changed it quite a bit for their "Horizon Cat".
6) – Jack – do you know from your identification # on the hull … what # your pilot is ?
I do not. I'll trust you with the boat number of my registration 1985 Nauset @@@HP115@585 Engine designation from same source is 1984 BMW 1951 35 inboard diesel
7) - Dave Deschamps – from Nauset Marine –has stated the following : Jack (owner of Sky King)…. That is your legal hull # @@@ is our designation code ,hp stands for harbour pilot, 115 is the production number ,but they start at 101 so you are number 4 the @ is the month(@@@) and the 585 is an 1985 model year built in 1985, if it was 485 it would have been built in 84 I hope this explains .., things if not give me another shout Dave …
– I think that Dave Deschamps – may have miss printed above the # 4 and it should be really # 14 … i.e. 101 -115 = 14 ? Or did he mean that the Sky King was built on (@@@) month , 4 th day of 1985 ?
9) ?? Cardinal Joe
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Excellent info Joe - I have never heard nor seen a Nauset version of the America or Eagle.....
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Excellent info Joe - I have never heard nor seen a Nauset version of the America or Eagle.....
Appreciated – me either, but the first three letters of the Hull # will tell if it was built by Nauset Marine …..
I can’t show these #‘s because Jack Maher owner of Sky King has an trusted them to me , so I will not post them …… but the first letter is an “ A “ rather than an “ T “ …… Cardinal Joe (http://Cardinal Joe)
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Located Pilot Updated Infor. North Cove Yacht Club, Inc.
P.O. Box 298, Sheffield Street
Old Saybrook, CT 06475
(860) 388-9132
........ North Cove Yacht Club ...........
In 2001 the Club sold the existing launch and replaced it with a Herreshoff Pilot 18 ft. launch.
On March 15, 1969 the first organizational meeting of the North Cove Yacht Club was held at the Old Saybrook Town Hall. CT
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What is so special about the MIC? ACJ is Nauset Marine....
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Quote - Jack – do you know from your identification # on the hull … what # your pilot is ?
I do not. I'll trust you with the boat number of my registration 1985 Nauset @@@HP115@585
So, now we know ACJHP115_585 ..... ACJ is Nauset Marine... Correct !
Adam - I'm not giving up the missing # even if your life depend on it ..... HA! ha! Cardinal Joe (http://Cardinal Joe)
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Jersey Cape Custom Yachts sent me some Pic's of my Pilot leaving the factory ....
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1974 - Westerbeke Diesel W30- fresh water cooled ..... Well, going to remove this Westerbeke Diesel from my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot for an Over Haul ...... it is 36 years old an has not miss a beat , someone once said don't touch it until it breaks ? ::)..... The originial color was Red .... someone years ago pulled this engine & motor mounts out of the boat and painted it Volvo Green ? Poss. to repair the transmission ?
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Engine Brand Colors on the following - Atomic 4 | BMW | Bukh | Farymann | Kohler | Palmer | Perkins | Universal | Volvo Penta | Westerbeke |
Diesel
Red = Westerbeke 15 , 25 & 30 hp
Green = Volvo 25 & 30 hp
Silver = Yanmar 30 hp
Blue = Univeral 27 hp
Grey/Silver = BMW 46 hp (not painted)
Green = Perkins 35 & 40 hp
Black = Kohler 25 hp
???? = Bukh 20 hp
White = Farymann 30 hp
Dark Gray = Lister-Petter 20 & 33 hp
Silver Blue = Kubota 46 hp
Gas
Unpainted = Atomic 4 ??????
Unpainted = Chrysler 80hp
???? = Palmer M60
Green = Volvo 4cyl gas engine (25hp)
?????????? = Honda -12hp
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Started sanding the water line , to come down a few inches , before using the Farrow Blasting System , because of the New Red GelCoat paint job and found that the White boot stripe is really White GelCoat and is 2X the wide as shown in the photo's below ....
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White GelCoat Water Line ....
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Well Pic's say it all.....
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Infor. on the above Photo's
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If you notice the deck floor had been cut out around the rear of the Transmission ….. The Rear Main Seal had been replaced on the transmission also I notice that any replacement parts on the motor were red in color or unpainted …. Well it appears that the fresh water, oil & fuel pumps along with the alternator, starter solenoid , one pulley , fuel filter canister plus lines, and belts had all been replaced at one time or another …...
Also it appears that I had a very small fuel leak from one of the fuel lines ...... from the photo's above it also shows transmission fluid in the bilge , but it was left over from the leaky rear main seal – the new seal looks very resend ,maybe less than a year old ?
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Nowalk & Williams Company ( square plate ) and SQUADRON YACHTS,INC ( round plate)– were builders of these six models Hull’s – in the early 70’s thru early 80’s both from Bristol, Rhode Island ! My Pilot has both Bronze plates ? Wonder if they both had a joint venture in building the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ?
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Adam & Adam Langerman what are your thoughts ? on Nowalk & Williams Company and SQUADRON YACHTS,INC....... Wonder if they both had a joint venture building Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ?
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I believe Squadron Yachts took over the 18 after Nowank & Williams shut down (for what reason I don't know).
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Prep - for " FARROW BLASTING SYSTEM "
First Nice day this year took the PILOT outside and used the Farrow System on the Hull ....
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More Pic's of Pilot ....
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Using the Farrow Blasting System ....Still More Pic's of the Pilot.....
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Farrow System in use on Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ....
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The Hull is in Great shape for a 36 year old girl the Swim Platform was optional
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This safe, low pressure vapor-like stream is directed against the surface to be cleaned. Upon contact with the surface, each Farrow Green Clean® particle bursts into multiple cleaning "missiles" that lift the coating from the surface. Each particle packs many punches, reducing cleaning time and media consumption significantly. The process is dust-free and leaves only a moist residue which is easily swept up and removed. "Cleaning method comparison"
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Adding a paint stand under the Pilot & Farrowing where the lift straps were holding up the Pilot ...
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Done for day , tomorrow is another day !
Found repair spot on the Swim platform ?....still need to fix the factory add-on swim platform Putty issues & start Barrior Coating the bottom etc.etc.....
Here's some pictures of the fiberglass work done today on the swim platform. All 1708 glass and vinylester resin....
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I want to take a POLL - Herreshoff Harbor Pilot bulk head wall ....
1) - keep the original look of the pilot bulk head wall ( no Window installation ) ?
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2) - Install my old Classic looking Bronze Port Hole Window in the Pilot bulk head wall ?
VOTE .... Original vs Port Hole .... Thanks You ! Cardinal Joe (http://Cardinal Joe)
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Shoot me a Vote on my email ..... joec@cardinalyachts.com (http://joec@cardinalyachts.com)
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For my 2 cents' worth, I would go either way: unadulterated as the designer(s) intended - or - an opening port would allow both through-cabin visibility (for the height challenged) & ventilation of the cabin. In any event, any modifications MUST look professionally done & be in keeping with the character of the boat. For what it's worth.
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My .02 is probably not worth much but I have always felt that boats, cars, or widgets should be kept as "stock" as possible. There is usually good reason a designer designed it that way. If I must change something structural (IE I was really going to use the craft for some specific purpose and needed to add equipment) I would try my best to be able to return to original shape as easy as possible with as little structural change as possible.....
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What is felt as the best trailer for the safe transport of a Harbor Pilot? I'm anticipating one over the road retrieval (300 miles), then occasional launching(s), mostly for off season storage.
Bunks appear to offer the better hull support, while rollers appear to make the "on" and "off" easier. Mostly, I want to be sure not to damage the hull in transport. I appreciate your recommendations.
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Bunks are far easier - easier on/off as well. Years of trailereing a similar Novi hull and I would never do anything but a float on bunk. Just MO....
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Adam, I appreciate your response - can you be more specific? I've spoken with a trailer dealer who favors rollers over bunks, but I've seen the stress that rollers can place on a hull. That's something I want to avoid completely. With respect to bunks, what would you suggest: 1 set, two sets, with or without rollers to support the keel? Also, for the HHP, what weight limit? Do you believe a single axle accommodating enough ? Any insight would be most welcome. Thanks in advance.
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IMO - Rollers freeze. They need far more maintinence. They don't roll that well to begin with. Bunks support far more - and evenly. With a boat 18' which is fairly light they dont need anything more then bunks - single axle. In fact the hard part is keeping a boat on the bunks - the things are slippery (usually have a plastic covering on the boards which allows the boat to "slide" around).
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Good Points - what about rollers for keel support?
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unnecessary....
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I want to take a POLL - Herreshoff Harbor Pilot bulk head wall ....
1) - keep the original look of the pilot bulk head wall ( no Window installation ) ?
OR
2) - Install my old Classic looking Bronze Port Hole Window in the Pilot bulk head wall ?
VOTE .... Original vs Port Hole .... Thanks You ! Cardinal Joe (http://Cardinal Joe)
Joe: Without a mock up picture I really can't comment. But, it's your boat and I trust you will make the right judgment.
As an aside, you're work on this 18 has been inspiring. Given your effort to restore this fine craft and others willingness to take on similar projects there is certainly a propensity for the design and perhaps new examples of these boats should again be manufactured. Would you ever considering building new 18's from scratch? Best, Adam L.
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Would you ever considering building new 18's from scratch? Best, Adam L.
1. Adam – been there done that ….. Donald L Blount & Steve French both Naval Architects and Marine Engineers design a 66 & 40 foot Sport Fish Hull for Cardinal Yacht Sales Marina – Sold off the 66 ft hull and still own the DeSanti 40 XPS Custom Express …..
2. What I would consider, is purchasing Herreshoff Harbor Pilot or Yacht Launch that is in need of Restoration and Re-selling ……
3. Or open my shop to restore other Herreshoff owner’s boats ……….
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Joe -
What are my chances of finding (or, do you know of) a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot that is in such bad shape that it's been abandoned or its owner is willing to sell its parts? I may be in need of a replacement bronze rudder skeg - the keel fitting that supports the rudder. Or, possibly, one that has been temporarily removed that could be used as a pattern for a mold to be cast in bronze. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Roger
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I Do Not know of a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot for sale in that condition........ Can you post a pic. of the problem ?
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(please clue me in on how to insert a photograph)
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it is easy - if you send me the photo via my email joec@cardinalyachts.com and I'll post it up for you !
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press the Reply button - a new screen will come up - look at the square box row on the top line square's B , I , U thats the upper row -then look at the bottom row the second square box has a small picture in the box , that is the insert Picture button -press button an a new icon that looks like this will pop up img/img insert the copy of the photo in between the two img's bars and post button > your done !
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Joe - The original skeg was deemed too worn to be serviceable, so it was removed, pressure treated lumber was sandwiched together, bolted to the keel, and a replacement skeg (not the original) was bolted to that.
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The Bottom Rudder Pintle should be through the keel hole an be free Willie ..... That is Just Horrible looking , it is not the orginial bronze keel that came with the Herreshoff Harbor pilot !
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Joe, you've had your skeg all cleaned up - does it appear that the original skeg is through bolted to the keel, or is it screwed into the keel? I haven't been able to tell either from various pictures I've seen, or an inspection of the Pilot in Brick.
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It is through bolted to the keel.......and it is raining or I would have taken a photo ......
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Joe,
Check out this link...
http://www.uncommonboats.com/website/article.asp?id=189
and here too..
http://www.herreshoffeagle.com/
I am a Harbor Pilot owner too. Mine is a factory custom I call a "Commodore" model..bigger cabin with seat steering and sink. Only one I have ever seen. I will take some photos to show you.
Always nice to meet another lover of the Harbor Pilot.
Kirk.
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Kirk - Your Pilot sounds very interesting - anxious to see the photographs. I am trying to find a suitable candidate for "easy" restoration, but have had no luck. Where are you located?
Roger
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I am on lake Chautauqua in western NY. My pilot came from north shore of Long Island where it was once used by a yacht club. Last owner trailered it to Mobile, Alabama where he had it in water for a season ...I found it listed on ebay and could not take my eyes off it. Has dual helms. one inside and one outside. Cabin comes all way back to behind dog house engine cover that acts as settee. Very nice teak detail in and out, but needs some TLC. Diesel engine was pulled out at some time and replaced with a mercruser 120 with hurth reduction tranmission so they had to make engine compartment bigger. Looks and pulls like a little tug. Hydrolic steering added at some time too. Wish I had more time to work on it than I do. I will go down to my barn and pull it out to take some photos. It was mentioned in a cat forum on Pilots a few years back by previous owner and some thought it was a remodel job. However if you look closely it looks like detail work was done in Bristol RI. Builders plate and all. I have my eyes on little Yanmar 18hp that I can get to put back in it. The Merc is too much power.
I also have another project boat. A Bill Menger 23' cat boat Launch. One of only 3, custom made for a Yacht Club on Hudson. Has a 28hp Yanmar Diesel in it.
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Kirkout _ Can't wait to see both of your boats - Post up Pic's ......
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http://www.allhandsandthecook.com/menger/archives.html
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Kirk -" Modifications" in all forms are the bane of my Harbor Pilot Quest existence. I'm beginning to doubt I'll be able to locate the ideal candidate for restoration that my limited budget will allow. However, I'll continue to look. From what I've seen so far, most previous owners have installed rod holders, extra cleats, over-powered engines,additional windows, and have modified the stock boat beyond what is reversible or acceptable to me. I fully understand wanting to personalize a boat for oneself, and each has his own idea as to what's acceptable, but, for me, the closer to "stock", the better I like it. These, of course, are my own opinions.
Roger
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Roger - what is your Budget ?
Quote : I'm beginning to doubt I'll be able to locate the ideal candidate for restoration that my limited budget will allow.
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. . . I need to stay within the "price as new, when new"
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SO................. between $ 15,000 to $ 16,000
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. . . we use the same reference material.
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Patched some small air voids with a epoxy resin on the entrance of the bow ,before barrier coating bottom .....
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Well , i when home for a few days and the boys - 1) Barrier coated 2) used a hard modified-epoxy antifouling paint that provides excellent season long protection 3) Micron Extra .... combines the slime blocking power of Biolux™ with controlled solubility copolymer antifouling paint technology to provide long-lasting, full-spectrum defense against fouling organisms. The antifouling ingredients are chemically bonded into Micron Extra’s copolymer matrix, which is engineered to gradually wear away as the boat moves through the water, much like a bar of soap.
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The Farrow Blasting System on my Westerbeke 30 hp diesel - Did NOT Harm any of the Hoses or Wiring !!!!!!!!
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Someone had removed this engine to replace the Rear Main Seal on the transmission , and repainted the Westerbeke Diesel ( original color RED ) to Volvo Green including the motor mounts and re-install the engine/trans. back into the Herreshoff Harbor pilot ..... ? More Pic's ....
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The picture below is the original hoses with the yellow primer paint ,followed by Westerbeke Red -they are 36 years old and have ( low hours ) only a few hundred hours on this diesel motor .....
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This engine water pump is Red ,so it had been replaced before along with a Impeller wheel ..
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This Jabsco water pump had been replace because it was red in Color ...
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I’ll take pictures of mine ,and post them up on the Herreshoff Registry Website Forum under Herreshoff 18 …….
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From: Scott Silvia [mailto:silv9748@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 9:16 PM
To: Joe Cannavo
Subject: steering parts
Hi Joe
I got my Herrshoff Scout back from the painter and immediately took it to the trailer co. on their loaner trailer 3 weeks ago. It took them that long to get a trailer made for it. I go to pick it up last Sat. and they had scratched the hull in several places and now it has to go back to the painter again. Their expense but I can see an arguement brewing already between them and the painter. My luck.
Got a question for you.
The boat has a make shift tiller added to the top of the rudder head to get it over the transom an into the cockpit it works and its fine. But I would like to go back to as close as possible to original (wheel steering) equipt on this boat as I can. I found an old cable a red plastic cable with an inscription "MORSE E 304415-120IN 4427" one end is rusted off. I have the old wheel but nothing of the of the bulkhead mechanism to connect it to exists. Just an empty hole. The transom still has a small slot where some sort of short tiller must have been connected to the cable.
Any ideas on what I can do to find the parts to bring this back to close to original.
Thanks
Scott Silvia
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Steering on Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ......
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Thanks for the pictures Joe.
Guess I'm going to have to get one made out of stainless by a welder. I doubt I can find a bronze one
Scott
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I doubt I can find a bronze one ? Scott
I think you are correct ! Cardinal Joe
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More pic's of the motor being disassemable and either replaced with new parts or rebuilding the old parts .....
The Starter unit is orginial ( all copper wiring & steel casing )........ Alternator is about 20 years old - both of these units are going to be rebuild , because they are of superior quality , the new units today are Junk ......
Ordered 4 new Glow Plugs ,Water Pump Impeller & Hoses ......
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Joe, take a look....
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/boa/1706081898.html
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Adam - Thanks ............ I'm going to post it up before it comes off Craiglist ,,,,,,
Another Sighting in Bath, Maine .......
Herreshoff harbor pilot boat - $10000 (Bath< ME)
18' Herreshoff harbor pilot Launch. Inboard day boat built 1974 by Nowak & William. Hand laid Fiberglass Reinforced Plastic hull, 8' beam, 1' 10" draft.; Hull # 007. Power - 25 HP Palmer gasoline. Also wIth Old Town Skiff.
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30' Duffy Electric Boat Company Herreshoff Hybrid•Year: 2002
•Current Price: US$ 128,000
•Located In Annapolis, MD
•Hull Material: Fiberglass
•Engine/Fuel Type: Single Other
•YW# 74954-2047016
This hybrid electric is a classic designed by the legendary Nathaniel Herreshoff. It runs exclusively on batteries most of the time
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Decide to start clean up the Bronze cleats will polish after cleaning.....
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Just got back both Rebuilt Units ..... NICE ...
The Starter unit is orginial ( all copper wiring & steel casing )........ Alternator is about 20 years old - both of these units are going to be rebuild , because they are of superior quality , the new units today are Junk ......
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Cont. and pic's of New replacement belts ..... the old belt's only had 30 hours on them but they are now back up belts.....\
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Adam,
Any chance of getting a framable copy of this print?
Thanks,
Steve
Yes, the Herreshoff America, Eagle, Scout and Pilot all use the same hulls! The non-sailing hulls do not have centerboards of course.
HMM uses a Pilot as its launch.
We get more calls regarding the America than any other of our older (post HMCo) designs.
A thumbnail from our archive on the Pilot:
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Adam Langerman
Herreshoff Designs, Inc.
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Steve – Welcome aboard what is your home port for your Herreshoff Harbor Pilot? Can you send me some photos so I can post them up on the Herreshoff Registry forum under Herreshoff 18 ……? The answer to your question is there are two bronze / bass plates one is at the Helm and the other is at the around back rest area in the stern, below the Cat seating area …. What is your Hull # ?
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From: Hycoop Mearo [mailto:mearo_2003@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:29 PM
To: joec@cardinalyachts.com
Subject: herreshoff 18'
Joe,
I have a 1984 Squadron Yacht Harbor Pilot that is slowly being fixed up. I have cleaned and climbed all around the boat and have never found a brass plate. Where is it located? Was it an option on some models? The boat has traveled from Cape Cod to Texas to Alabama over the years maybe it was removed.
Any Ideas?
Thanks,
Steve
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Replacing Glow Plugs , Hoses & Impeller on Westerbeke W30 Diesel Engine .
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The Impeller that was replaced is in perfert cond.- I will keep it as a back-up unit.
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The original hoses are 36 years old ....
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CONT.---- And looking for a Fram CA-12 Air Filter - having a problem locating this Filter !
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I think this Fram air filter - could be original too....
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Parts Catalog: Westerbeke W30 Propulsion
Engine System Group: Crankcase Breather
Return to W30 Propulsion catalog index: W30 Propulsion Group Index
This information is found in Westerbeke catalog #13945
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click diagram to increase its size Ref. Part # Description Quantity
Req'd Price
Each
1 21536 Air Intake Silencer
AIR INTAKE - $404.25 >:( ??? :'( Are you kidding me ?????? Westerbeke replaced the discontinue FRAM CA 12 air filter with this $404.25 Metal Air Intake Filter Silencer unit ........ photo's of this $404.25 unit below - this is NOT my W30 Westerbeke Engine - only showing this Metal Air Intake Filter Silencer unit ........
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My Westerbeke W30 - with old FRAM - CA 12 Paper Air filter .......
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I can't find this air filter & yes i have cross checked with others brands , No one makes it anymore ....
Could it be a lawn mower air filter ?
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Joe,
Here are a few pictures.... We have done quite a bit of maintenance on her and just started sanding and Cetoling all the teak. In addition, building up the instrument panel, to both provide a little higher platform and clean the lines with just a simple tachometer and oil temp gauge. We have cut out and added two 12x13 hatches to the starboard and port sides of the rear seats (the space has been wasted since launch in 74). I work in the music business so we upgraded the electrical - she now has a VSR and three battery bank (two in bow hatched compartment and starting battering in pilot house). Must say there is now no problem listening to music underway.
We are hoping to add a water bladder and pump for fresh water line + a remote controlled high intensity search light on the mast. Winter projects include a stern thruster, add additional deck support, through hull lights and repaint the bilge.
She has a Yanmar Diesel, and I was thinking of adding a stern blower + air line directly to the engine air intake manifold. Don't think I will get a supercharger affect but it would allow us to completely enclose the engine box and really soundproof it - any thoughts? There would be a mild increase in efficiency because the air intake would be receiving slightly cooler air at modestly increased pressure - whatcha think?.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Cannavo [mailto:joec@cardinalyachts.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 5:16 PM
To: Hamilton, Dennis
Cc: Joec@cardinalyachts.com
Subject: RE: Harbor Pilot
Sounds Great - Where is her Home Port ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Hamilton, Dennis [mailto:Dennis.Hamilton@harman.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:38 PM
To: 'joec@cardinalyachts.com'
Subject: Re: Harbor Pilot
Hey Joe,
Its been a great boat Ill send you a set of pictures when I get back to town.
Cheers,
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Cannavo <joec@cardinalyachts.com>
To: Hamilton, Dennis
CC: Joec@cardinalyachts.com <Joec@cardinalyachts.com>
Sent: Thu Jun 03 16:16:47 2010
Subject: RE: Harbor Pilot
Any Picture's of your Pilot ? How is it coming along ?
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From: Hamilton, Dennis [mailto:Dennis.Hamilton@harman.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 12:50 PM
To: 'joec@cardinalyachts.com'
Subject: Re: Harbor Pilot
Hey Joe,
Ment to send you a note, we bought the one from MA. Great boat - after learning to be a diesel mechanic I am on to a marine electrician. Ill take a look at the new one, always looking for refab ideas for the winter.
We do need to fix the keel (same sandwich fix I saw on some of your
pictures) this winter but other than she's sound.
Cheers,
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Cannavo <joec@cardinalyachts.com>
To: Hamilton, Dennis
CC: Joec@cardinalyachts.com <Joec@cardinalyachts.com>
Sent: Sun May 02 11:41:14 2010
Subject: RE: Harbor Pilot
Dennis - any Luck with that Herreshoff Harbor Pilot - there a new one listed on the Herreshoff Registry ..
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Dennis – just looked at my Pilot – and a stern bow thruster unit maybe a problem with the installation …. because of the Rudder ? I use a Continuous blower unit , but without the filter ….. just have the hose laying in the bilge engine area . I have it on a separate fuse line & switch , but your idea sounds ok >>>>>
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From: Hamilton, Dennis [mailto:Dennis.Hamilton@harman.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:52 AM
To: Joe Cannavo
Subject: RE: Harbor Pilot
I’ll send you some more when the rain stops. What size and make blower are you using, I heard that you need one rated for continuous duty? I was going to tie it into the start line, so it turns on when you engage the key and simply put an in-line fuse instead of running it through the fuse box. Do you use a filter on the blower intake to decrease salt crystal intake?
From: Joe Cannavo [mailto:joec@cardinalyachts.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 6:44 PM
To: Hamilton, Dennis
Cc: Joec@cardinalyachts.com
Subject: RE: Harbor Pilot
The Pilot looks GREAT! I love the idea of a stern bow thruster & the third battery.... Music is a big Plus.... The two extra 12x13 hatches to the starboard and port sides of the rear seats , water bladder and a remote controlled high intensity search light on the mast makes perfect sense to me .... You should add a 30 amp converter down to 110 line ,if you are going to do any traveling in the future .... I like the idea of under water lights - go with the LED's ,they use very little battery power , what color through hull lights ? .... I have the extra stern blower + air line directly to the engine air intake manifold on my pilot .... YES - there would be a mild increase in efficiency because the air intake would be receiving slightly cooler air at modestly increased pressure ! How is the Cetoling working out on the teak ?... Any Pic’s ? – Need more Photo’s …….. keep up the good work ……….
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Trailer Updates
Well decide to work on the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Trailer.... Add New Combination Trailer Light Kit ( Stop,Turn & Tail Lamp )..... The old lights worked fine ,but were NOT " Submersible " Trailer lights .... The old guy that I purchase my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot from - his son owns a small marina in atlantic city area , and the Pilot was lifted on & off the trailer with a fork lift and launched .... The son also custom built this trailer for the Herreshoff harbor pilot ..... I Lubed all the rollers before placing the pilot back on the trailer ..... I also plan to replace all four sets of Axle Bearing & Hub assembly units and a New trailer Coupler (quick-lock ) 2 '' ball size .... Tire's are in excellent condition.....
This trailer will be ready to travel with zero issues ..... I maybe taken the Pilot to Southwest Harbor Maine in Sept. ( 14 hour ride from South Jersey ).
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Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Trailer...
Old vs New
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Rewired the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot.....
I decide to re-wire the Pilot including the engine wire harness & Bilge pump unit , after 36 years I think it was time , clean up a lot of old not needed wires... add a black tube casing for the wires, along the bulk head wall an out to the engine compartment ....
Old Wiring ( before )
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New Wiring ( After )-with black tube wiring casing....
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Continue of New Wiring System...
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New Bilge pump Wiring
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Picture of old circuit board panel...
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New circuit board panel & new wiring....
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Rare.... Herreshoff Harbor Pilot with full cabin....
WOW - check this Custom Herreshoff Harbor Pilot out .....
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Do you know if that config was factory or was done after? I know Squadron offered custom configs on that hull.
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Adam - it was done as a " After Market " - I have all the infor. on this Custom 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot - including Before & After photo's and a Survey on the Pilot .....
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Joe That looks like somebody's winter project that started as an America.
To each his own , I feel bad I haven't got back in touch with the info I said I dig up , the season hit early and things don't get done as fast as they used to ( part of getting older I guess) I will be back in touch
Thanks Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Cannavo" <joec@cardinalyachts.com>
To: "'David Deschamps'" <david@nausetmarine.com>; <aaron@nausetmarine.com>
Cc: <Joec@cardinalyachts.com>
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 5:59 PM
Subject: FW: Another Harbor pilot - Dave is this one of your Nauset Harbor Pilot edition ????? Never have seen one like this , before ?
> To: David Deschamps
> Cc: aaron@nausetmarine.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Merrill Hall [mailto:mhall@hathawaysurveyors.com]
> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 9:33 PM
> To: joec@cardinalyachts.com
> Subject: Another Harbor pilot
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> Look familiar?
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David - just found out it is a " Custom After Market " started out as a 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot -not a America model .... I'll be posting up Before & After Photo's of this Pilot .... But, as the Summer starts to slow down , please email me the History about Nauset Marine and the Purchase of Herreshoff 18 Hull's ..... Thanks Joe
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Joe,
Attached are pages from the March 2010 survey. Quite a few construction details are included with many photos. Much has been done since the survey. The interior is semi-finished. The two berths are still under construction. I'll be getting more photos soon.
Regards,
Merrill
Joe Cannavo wrote:
> WOW - I love it ! - tell me more about it ..... and more pic's of the
> interior of the cabin - Please ..... Thanks Joe
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HATHAWAY MARINE SURVEYORS
A Division of Hathaway Services, Inc
25 Carriage Road, C-F, Portland, Maine 04110-1301
TEL: 207-781-4467; FAX: 207-781-2857
MARINE INSURANCE SURVEY REPORT
10-3504
M/V “NoVela”
24 March 2010
CONDUCTED BY
Brian M. Hathaway, Sr. NAMS-CMS
PREPARED FOR:
S. Merrill Hall & Thomas E. Hall
67 Wharf Road
Yarmouth, ME 04096
207-846-9879
Before
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M/V “NoVela”
Survey Date: 24 March 2010
Year Built & Model: 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot – Rebuilt 2008-2010
Hull Designer: Halsey Herreshoff
Vessel Manufacturers: TPI Composites & Nowak & Williams Boat Co.
Redesigned and Rebuild by S.M. Hall & T.E. Hall
Manufacture Location: Bristol, RI – Yarmouth, ME
Hull Identification Number: TSPHP0060374
Vessel Hailing Port: Yarmouth, ME
State Registration Number: ME 154 WAC
Vessel Specifications:
LOA: 18’ 2” BEAM: 8’ 0” DRAFT: 1’ 10”
LWL: 17’ 10” DISP: 2,200 # +/- CLEAR: 8’ 0”
Note: The above vessel specifications are taken from manufacturer’s published data or have been supplied by others. No measurements or calculations were made by the surveyor, unless otherwise noted.
Construction:
Hull: Fiberglass Reinforced Plastic (FRP)
Decks: FRP over plywood
Cabin/Top: FRP over plywood
Main Engine:
Type: Inboard Fuel: Oil (Diesel)
On 24 March 2010, the undersigned surveyor attended upon the subject motor vessel, while ashore in heated storage at Portland, Maine for the purpose of conducting a condition and value survey for Insurance Underwriting and financial evaluation purposes.
The vessel was found stored on a trailer, in a heated storage facility and in a somewhat decommissioned state.
Note: It must be understood that this type of survey is limited in scope to those elements of the vessel that directly or indirectly affect the safety of the vessel and its passengers, and its general market value. It is not of sufficient depth to be considered as a Pre-Purchase Survey.
Note: The ▼ symbol is used, in the text of the survey, to indicate a condition that is covered under the RECOMMENDATIONS/ SUGGESTIONS/DEFICIENCIES section. The symbol is used to indicate a photo is available in the PHOTOGRAPHS section of the survey.
DESIGN/CONSTRUCTION/STRUCTURES:
General:
The hull is of the rounded chine, full keel, displacement form with single screw and inboard spade rudder.
The vessel was purchased in August 2008, redesigned and rebuilt by Merrill and Thomas Hall over the past two years. The Halls are experienced in boat repair, FRP composite construction and marine mechanical and electrical systems.
The original “house” and liner were removed and the vessel was rebuilt to the new design. The hull and side shells were taken down to the gel coat, sounded and checked for moisture. All was found to be in good order and the surfaces were painted. A small area of the gunwale was found to have elevated moisture. The area was opened up, dried-out and restored to original. The bulkheads were constructed of ¾” Meranti (13 ply) plywood and the decks were finished with ½” (7 ply) Meranti marine plywood. The cabin tops and wheelhouse areas were constructed of 3/8” and ¼” Okoume bendable marine plywood. All plywood surfaces were treated with West System Epoxy, prior to installation. Tabbing and covering for decks and bulkheads are of 14 oz stitch-matt while coverings on cabin top and wheelhouse are multiple layers of 8 oz cloth. The work was well executed to good yacht standards and the vessel shows “as new” in many respects.
Notes
Sideshells: Have been “taken down” to the gel coat and painted – very good condition
Underwater body: Have been “taken down” to the gel coat and painted – very good condition
Decks: FRP over ½” “Meranti” marine plywood – very good condition
Cabin Area: Neat and clean
Bulkheads: New ¾” “Maranti” marine grade plywood – very good condition
Bilges: Clean and dry
Hatches: Two – New
Sea Valve: New 2009 – Bronze
Obvious Repairs: None observed
Damaged Areas: None observed
Grab rails: New – Very good – Vintage cast bronze mounts w/bronze tubing
Mooring Cleats/Chocks: Original bronze – one SAMPSON post
Hull/Deck Joint: FRP tabbing – good condition
Strength of Hull: Acceptable
Certain areas of the exterior underwater body, exterior side shells, and exposed exterior portions of the deck structure were “sounded” by means of steel and plastic hammers, inspected visually and with a portable non-destructive electronic moisture meter. Major deficiencies in these areas could adversely affect the vessel’s structural integrity and/or its Fair Market Value.
PROPULSION MACHINERY:
Type: Inboard – Diesel Fired Make: YANMAR
Model: 3GMF Serial #: 07261
#Cylinders: Three HP @ RPM: 20 @ 3400
Cooling: Fresh water Seacock: New 2009
Ext. Strainer: Yes – New 2009 Int. Strainer: New 2009
Drive Type: Direct Shaft: 1” stainless steel
Stuffing Box: New 2010 Propeller: 3 blade bronze 13 X 10
Shaft Log: New 2009 Engine Space: Neat and clean
Fuel Hoses: New 2009 Wet Exhaust: Yes – New 2009
Fuel Filter: RACOR Exh. Hoses: New 2009
Tanks/ Mat’l: One – Aluminum Fuel Cap: 8 USG
Ventilation: Natural Muffler: New 2009
Engine Hours: Unknown Riser: New 2009
Engine Controls: Good working order Engine hoses: New 2010
Instruments: Tachometer, Oil Pres, Water Temp, Voltmeter and alarms
The injector pump was rebuilt by John Pride, Inc., Diesel Engine Repair, in 2009. The vessel was sea trialed in August 2009 and demonstrated normal operation.
The fuel tank is located below the portside gunwale and is adequately secured, grounded, and vented. Fuel fill and supply hoses are in new condition (USCG type A). The fuel tank reportedly was modified and cleaned in 2008 and prior to installation was pressure tested at 5psi for approximately 20 hours with no leakage. The fuel -fill and vent hoses were replaced at that time.
The engine was not operated during this survey. No opinion is expressed.
ACCOMMODATIONS:
Notes
Cabin Spaces: One
Head Area: Aft to starboard
MSDType: Self-contained (5 USG) PORTA POTTI “365 MSD” with a deck pump-out – New 2010
BILGE PUMPING/DEWATERING:
Qty Bilge Pumps
1 12VDC pump with float switch mounted in bilge void – New discharge hose & thru hull 2009
1 Portable manual pump – Piston type
ELECTRICAL:
Qty 12VDC Electrical Components
1 Engine Driven Alternator
2 12VDC Storage Batteries
2 Acid Proof Battery Trays with securing straps (NFPA Suggested) ▼
1 Safety Disconnect Switch – New 2009
1 Fused Switch Panel – New 2009
The wiring system is new throughout with all wiring and components to ABYC/NFPA Standards.
FIRE PROTECTION:
Qty Fire Extinguishers
1 Portable B:C-I
1 5# Portable CO2
STEERING SYSTEM:
Notes
Type steering: Push/pull cable – All elements new 2008 – TELEFLEX
Rudder: Acceptable – Stainless steel – New 2009
Stuffing Box & Collar: Acceptable – New 2009
GROUND TACKLE:
Qty
1 HT 1200 DANFORTH Anchor with 5’ of 3/8” chain lead & 175’ of nylon rode
EQUIPMENT:
ELECTRONIC AND NAVIGATIONAL GEAR
1 Compass – RITCHIE New 2009
1 VHF Radio – Hand-held WEST MARINE
1 Horn – Manual
1 GPS/Chart Plotter – RAYMARINE “RC400”
1 GPS – GARMIN “GPS 12”
1 Chart – Casco Bay
- Vintage bronze side lights and all-around white light – Installed 2010
EMERGENCY AND LIFESAVING EQUIPMENT
3 PFDs Type I
1 Ring Buoy
1 Radar reflector & attachments
- USCG required Flares (Expiration date: July 2011)
1 Bronze Transom step for unassisted re-boarding from the water
1 First aid kit
MISCELLANEOUS EQUIPMENT
1 Boat Hook
Assorted Fenders
Assorted Docklines
1 ATLANTIS TRAILERS – Single axle boat trailer (1995 +/-)
EQUIPMENT TESTING:
Item Tested Notes
Navigation Lights: √ OK
Compass Light : √ OK
Anchor Light: √ OK
Cabin Light: √ OK Not connected
12VDC bilge pump: √ OK Dry operation only
Portable bilge pump: √ OK Dry operation only
Horn: √ OK
Portable VHF Radio: √ OK
W/S Wiper: √ OK
GPS /Chart Plotter: √ OK
∩ = “Power Up” Test Only √ = The item Was tested X = The Item was Not tested
▼ RECOMMENDATIONS/SUGGESTIONS/DEFICIENCIES:
SECTION A:
The following deficiencies/recommendations should be considered necessary for the well being of the vessel and her crew and should be addressed in the very near future. Their numerical order does not suggest priority or importance. All must be considered equal.
No deficiencies in this section
SECTION B:
The following recommendations are required for the vessel to comply with USCG regulations and the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR)
No deficiencies in this section
SECTION C:
The following recommendations are based on the voluntary standards of the ABYC (American Boat and Yacht Council) and the NFPA (National Fire Protection Association).
No deficiencies in this section
SECTION D:
The following are consistent with good marine practice, proper vessel maintenance, and prudent seamanship.
1. Provide a current compass deviation card for the compass.
2. Suggestion: Provide a secondary anchor with separate chain lead and rode.
3. Suggestion: Equip PFDs with water lights, whistles, and retro-reflective tape and identify each with the vessel’s name.
GENERAL OBSERVATIONS/COMMENTS:
“NoVela” is a custom designed vessel that bears no visible resemblance to the original Herreshoff Harbor Pilot, except for the hull. This surveyor has followed the reconstruction of this vessel.
VALUATION:
One Herreshoff 1974 Harbor Pilot is listed for sale on the internet with an asking price of $14,900. In determining the market value of this “custom” vessel, three different builders were used as comparables (four 22’ Eastern, two 21’ Atlas Pompanos and one H and H 20’). These vessels were built between 1989 and 2006 and three were diesel powered while four were gas powered. The average asking price was $27,910 USD. Assuming that they would sell for 88% of the asking price, the selling price would be $24,960
The ESTIMATED MARKET VALUE of the vessel is approximately, in the opinion of this office, $24,000 USD to $26,750 USD. Market value is based upon the observed conditions of the vessel “as is-where is” and without completion of work or correction of deficiencies in the Recommendations/ Suggestions/ Deficiencies section of this survey. Further consideration is given to the vessel’s overall condition in comparison to vessels of like size, age and service, and the current state of the marketplace.
MARKET VALUE is hereby defined as the most probable selling price in a competitive and open market under all conditions requisite to a fair sale, and where the buyer and the seller, is each acting prudently and knowledgeably, and with the assumption that the price is not affected by undue stimulus. Implicit in this definition is the consummation of a sale on a specified date and the passing of title from seller to buyer under conditions whereby:
1. Buyers and sellers are under no duress.
2. Both parties are well informed and acting in what they consider to be their own best interests.
3. A reasonable time is allowed for exposure in the open market.
4. Payment is made in cash or its equivalent.
5. Financing, if any, is on terms generally available in the community at the specified date and typical for the vessel type in its locale.
6. The price represents a normal consideration for the vessel sold unaffected by special funding amounts and/or terms, services, fees, costs of credits incurred in the transaction.
The ESTIMATED REPLACEMENT VALUE of the vessel, as equipped, is approximately $45,000 USD. For the purpose of this survey, replacement value is defined as the cost of replacing the subject vessel with a new equivalent vessel with identical or equivalent capabilities, equipment and gear.
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This is my Hull # TSPHP 06308 74 = Hull # 63 , 08 = August , 74 = Year !
The above Hull # TSPHP 00603 74 = Hull # 6 , 03 = March , 74 = Year...
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Original Herreshoff Harbor Pilot – Prior to Redesign
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Shaft Log
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Bilge Pump w/Float Switch & 12VDC Batteries
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Above photo's ... Fuel Supply & Return Chafe Protected & Fuel Tank
Below Photo's Raw Water Filter Muffler -Fuel Oil Filter
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Photo above ... Exhaust Hose Leading to Exit on Starboard Sideshell just Forward of Transom
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Purchased some more new parts for my Pilot & trailer . Still hoping to have it done by Sept. - for my yearly trip to Southeast Harbor Maine .... It would be nice to cruise around Bar Harbor and the 5 outer Islands with the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ......
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Hoping to boat with the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot around - Mount Desert Island, off the coast of Maine, is widely known as the home of Acadia National Park and the town of Bar Harbor. If we viewed the island from the air (a look at the Acadia map will do), we would notice north and south aligned gouges scooped out of the land as if by a very large hand. Indeed, in this case, the hand was that of a huge, slow moving, continental glacier over a mile high,... 2 miles thick in some places. When this giant glacier finally melted and retreated, it left rounded mountain tops, long lakes, many boulders, and the 7 mile long Somes Sound - the only fjord on the East coast of the United States. Elsewhere on the island is the massive Cadillac Mountain. Even after being sheared off by the glaciers, it remains the highest point along the North Atlantic Seaboard at 1,532 feet above sea level and provides spectacular panoramic views of Acadia National Park and other out islands.
To the original coastal Abnaki Indians, Mount Desert Island was known as “Pemetic” (the sloping land). Although the Abnaki's permanent villages were located on the mainland, they regularly fished and gathered shellfish from Mount Desert Island. (Check out the Abbe Museum for this history.) The island got its current name from the French explorer Champlain who ran aground here in 1604 AD. Today, Mount Desert Island is best known as the home of Acadia National Park, where land and sea, mountains and shore, people and abundant wildlife meet in a natural and spectacular setting.
There are many people who are surprised to hear that there are actually only 4 official townships on the island. They are Bar Harbor, Mount Desert, Southwest Harbor and Tremont. Bar Harbor encompasses the sections of Eden, Hulls Cove, Salisbury Cove and Town Hill. Mount Desert, although having no official “center,” consists of Hall Quarry, Northeast Harbor, Otter Creek, Seal Harbor and Somesville. With Southwest Harbor comes Manset and Seawall. Bass Harbor, Bernard, Seal Cove, and West Tremont are part of the town of Tremont.
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Also i make trips with the family's Mako 19 center console or the Mail Boat to these outer Island's : Islesford , Cranberry , Little Cranberry , Sutton and Baker Island .... Mailboat leave from Northeast Harbor 2 to 3 times a day to these outer Island , if you take your own boat there is plenty of docking available .....
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21536 Air Intake Silencer
AIR INTAKE - $404.25 Are you kidding me Westerbeke replaced the discontinue FRAM CA 12 air filter with this $404.25 Metal Air Intake Filter Silencer unit ........
Yes , it is TRUE ... I purchase the New Air Filter Silencer Unit for $ 404.25 - and here it is ...
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Had new bearing installed into front hub's -first two when in perfect , but the third one cracked the hub . So, i ordered two new hubs with bearing installed , and said the hell with the fourth hub .....
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Work in progress on the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Trailer , hoping the Pilot will be done by Sept. to make the trip to Southwest Harbor & Bar Harbor Maine....
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Also working on my 1969 Mako 19 CC Trailer - just in case i have to take the Mako 19 instead of the Herreshoff harbor Pilot to Maine.....
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Finally installed the new Lexan Windows in the Pilot .
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Cleaned the Teak again - and this time i used " Cetol " Marine Gloss on all the teak .....
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Cont. - Teak work with " Cetol " ....
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Pilot Trailer ...... New Hub's / Bearing installed .....
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Just got my Westerbeke Diesel engine back from Dutton Marine Diesel Mobil Service ,,,,, Frank overhauled my Diesel and sparyed primer gray paint on my Westerbeke motor end color will be Westerbeke Red ......
Frank - is going to re-install the Westerbeke diesel engine back into my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot boat in the next few weeks , who knows it maybe ready for my Sept. trip to Bar Harbor , Maine ..... I'm hopeful
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Glad that I'm not going to Bar Harbor & Southwest Harbor , Maine until Sept..
It must be like Coney Island up in the Bar Harbor area with the President be on vacation .
By Felicia Sonmez
Sunday, July 18, 2010
BAR HARBOR, MAINE --President Obama and his family aren't just getting outside the Beltway on their brief vacation here -- they're getting outside, period.
THIS STORY
· An active first family is on the move in Maine
· The Obamas unwind in Maine
Since their arrival Friday afternoon, the Obamas have been biking, hiking and boating their way around Mount Desert Island, the third-largest island on the Eastern Seaboard and home to the 47,000-acre Acadia National Park.
The first stop Friday was a 90-minute bike ride on the lushly wooded trails around Witch Hole Pond at the northern end of the island. Then came a family hike on Cadillac Mountain, at 1,530 feet the highest peak on the East Coast.
The Obamas rounded out their first day with a National Park Service boat ride on Frenchman Bay and a waterfront dinner at Stewman's Lobster Pound. Even dinner was outdoors: The first family, who arrived at the restaurant via boat, sat at a table on a pier overlooking the bay. The president and the first lady dined on lobster, while their daughters shared a shrimp basket, according to restaurant manager Jeff Buffington.
On Saturday, the Obamas played tennis in the morning at the Bar Harbor Club, an elegant compound constructed by J.P. Morgan in 1929. In the afternoon, they traveled to Southwest Harbor, where they grabbed lunch at the waterfront Claremont Hotel before taking in the sights at the Bass Harbor Head lighthouse.
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My wife’s family owns the Waterfront Claremont Hotel in Southwest Harbor Maine along with several other ocean & lake front property on Mount Desert Island ...
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Ray - from ATLANTIS PROPELLER,INC - has tune -up my 14 X 11 Prop ! Using " Prop Scan System " this high tech. unit - Increase Efficiency , Reduces Fuel Consumption and Eliminate Propeller Induced Vibration .... And gives you a Computer Generated Report -" Free of Charge "
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Continue from above ....
Some Photo's of Atlantis Propeller work ....
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Another Sighting of a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot in " Martha's Vineyard "... Looks like a Nauset Harbor Pilot Edition , they built them Without the Cat Rudder ....
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Westerbeke Red ? - kinda ...
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Used "RUST-OLEUM" - Professional High Performance Enamel Red Paint...
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Adam or Steve -Lost all my foto's from posting up yesterday ???????????????? Where did they go ????????? Still " NO " Icon .......???????
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The icons are back.
The images you posted 2 days ago were submitted as attachments. This forum can not host your images ... see the topic on posting photos. It needs to be done the way you have done it in the past ... including a link to the image hosted elsewhere. You will need to re-post them using the approved methodology.
In researching this, I have noticed quite a few attachments in the server directories. I will need to go through each one and delete if necessary. If you have other images that were attached rather than linked to, you will need to re-post them as well.
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Steve - Sounds Good - Thank You ....... Joe
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" Rust-oleum Hammered " for the Custom Welded Angle Iron pieces & Axles
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More foto's - Another Sighting of a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot in " Martha's Vineyard "... Looks like a Nauset Harbor Pilot Edition boat to me , they built them Without the Cat Rudder ....
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Started to clean up the Bronze Hardware on the Pilot >>>>
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Cont .... from above ....
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Rudder refit .....
Rudder re-install with some new hardware ....
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Proper way of taping off area..... to be painted with a new color of non-skid on the gunnels .....
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Cont. from above.....
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Non-Skid Paint
Had some left over non -skid deck paint from another boat ........... states " CREAM " color , but it looks YELLOW to me ,,,,, and I Don't like it at all with the dark Red hull .... this is Not going to last .....
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Had some Hatteras Off White paint left over from another boat , so decide to cover up the so called " CREAM " color first coat of paint .....
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Also GEL Coated the Bilge Area awhile back ,it got a little dirty ,but it will wash right up .
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Clean up the deck for the install of the westerbeke motor and Painted the Bulk Head wall .....[/b]
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WOW – I went down to Cape May, NJ to have lunch today, at the famous Lobster House Restaurant, and a foto came over my Blackberry of my Westerbeke engine installed in my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot …… Just the other day I had started bitching at my staff , why the bosses’ boat always comes last... Go figure ?
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Having New Padded Seat’s made for the Pilot – marking a pattern with the plastic + measuring the Cat seating area ….
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This is one of Adam foto from The Herreshoff Regatta .....
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Herreshoff Harbor Pilot for Sale !
Sky King is a Nauset Edtion 1985 without the Cat Rudder , has a BMW diesel engine 49 hp !
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My mother and I just finished restoring a 18' pilot. Beautiful teak, had to rebuild the deck because the balsa core was rotten. I will post before and after pics when the boat is launched. Also got a sail for it custom made by Thurston sails. THe boat is located on cape cod.... It took a lot of work but it is certainly something to be proud of!!!
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Congradulation on the restoring of your Herreshoff harbor pilot ! can"t wait to see pic's of it being launched ! :)
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Was anyone successful in getting pictures or information on the 18 Yacht Club Launch. I am looking at a 74 and am having trouble finding anything. Were these all that rare?
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Finally found a Herreshoff Harbor Yacht Club Launch 18 in Martha's Vineyard on "Chappaquiddick" Island and it had a total restoration done ..... Will post up photo when i return from vacation ....... YES they are RARE .... ;)
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LOST all my foto's from another posting website - which in turn deleted the foto's from this site ..... Sorry - I'm looking into obtaining all those pictures again ....
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Herreshoff Yacht Launch Finally found a Herreshoff Harbor Yacht Club Launch 18 in Martha's Vineyard on "Chappaquiddick" Island and it had a total restoration done ..... Will post up photo when i return from vacation ....... YES they are RARE ....
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35225&d=1285536018)
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35226&d=1285536052)
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35227&d=1285536082)
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35228&d=1285536112)
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35229&d=1285536147)
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Took these Pic's with a real camrea instead of my cell phone ......
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35251&d=1285547065)
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35252&d=1285547089)
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(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35254&d=1285547151)
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more pic's of this rare Yacht launch...
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35230&d=1285536576)
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35231&d=1285536608)
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35232&d=1285536630)
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35233&d=1285536663)
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35234&d=1285536694)
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cont. - Rare Herreshoff Harbor Yacht Launch ....
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35239&d=1285537464)
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35241&d=1285537563)
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35242&d=1285537608)
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35240&d=1285537486)
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I was having lunch at the Edgartown Yacht Club in Martha's Vineyard... when out of the corner of my eye i spoted a Herreshoff 18 Hull.... going by with a fisherman standing an the stern steering the boat with a outboard motor as a rudder .... that day i when looking for the Herreshoff 18 and found it working as a Scallop boat on the south side of Chappaquiddick ....
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35266&d=1285554614)
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35263&d=1285554553])
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35264&d=1285554568)
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35265&d=1285554592)
The next day i forgot my camera , and came upon the Herreshoff 18 - it turn out to be Herreshoff Scout 18 !
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Before
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After
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Had the 18 gal. steel fuel tank pressure tested - " Passed " , no leaks , so I remove it for a complete over haul . It has a fuel gauge on top of the tank , but impossible to see , since it is under the gunnel .
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07757_edited.jpg)
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Had a lot of work done on my Pilot , while i was away on Vacation , Painted the deck floor & cabin both in & out . Calked all the Rub Rail & windows with Boatlife Life- Calk ! etc.etc.
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35471&d=1285949861)
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35472&d=1285949880)
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=35473&d=1285949910)
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Joe,
Here is my unique Pilot.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHIFJB0psfE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHIFJB0psfE)
Kirk.
Sorry for delay...had trouble posting photos.
Any interest? At the moment I could be inticed to part with her......but I have had those feeling before at the end of the season ...only to fall back in love with her.
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Kirk , sorry for not getting back to you sooner , been crazy hauling boats out for Winter storage ! Can you tell me/us more about the History of your pilot ? Thanks Joe
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Did you take a look at the Youtube slide show?
Told you about all I know in my earlier posts. Do you have any questions I could try to answer? Have you ever seen a 18' like this? I have a folder with a little information from last two owners, but that is about it. I would love to know more myself.
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Here is a link to an Eagle that has some original sales brochures.
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/boatFullDetails.jsp?boat_id=1969494&listing_id=null&units=Feet¤cy=USD&access=Public
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Did you take a look at the Youtube slide show?
Told you about all I know in my earlier posts. Do you have any questions I could try to answer? Have you ever seen a 18' like this? I have a folder with a little information from last two owners, but that is about it. I would love to know more myself.
No I have never seen a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot like ours ! Can you tell us about the last two owners , year , home port , etc . How much are you looking to get for your Pilot ?
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(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/015.jpg)
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Used the Farrow paint removal system on the orginal 18 gal. fuel tank to remove the epoxy paint coating and found a large rubber tape that was applied to the tank at the factory , i guess to act as a rubber padding between the deck & the steel tank ? When i removed the rubber tape , I discovered 3 small pin size holes . I shipped out the tank to be over hauled & repaired !
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/DSC09700_edited.jpg)
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Replacing the old blower unit with a continous heavy duty JABSCO Blower unit - it is used to draw cooler outside air into the diesel engine cover box !
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC09836_edited-2.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC09835_edited-2.jpg)
old unit - not connected (http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07557.jpg)
one of the holes is for the Blower & the other is a air intake vent for the engine compartment...
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC09816_edited-1.jpg)
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This Herreshoff Harbor Pilot - has only one Air intake scoop .....
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/IMG00214-20100608-1722_edited.jpg)
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update on repair of original fuel tank .....
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I talked to a new Herreshoff Harbor Pilot owner in Cape May , NJ - boat was purchase from City Island , NY . It is not the one that i looked at few years ago ( White Hull ) I believe it went to Booth Harbor ,Maine. This Pilot has a Red hull and is Hull #5 - 1974 .
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I bought it from Sonny Brewer from Fairhope, Alabama in 2005. He had posted it on Ebay..but nobody bid. I saw it up there, and after the auction ended...could not stop thinking about it so I contacted him and made an offer. He had found it a year earlier in Cold Spring Harbor, NY. Listed by Ted of Long Island Marine on behalf of Hewitt Lindsay. Beyond that is speculation, but heard tale of it being a Yacht Club Race Comittee boat at one time. The folks at Long Island Marine almost bought it themselves to use as a tow boat. Heard it was the Yacht Club that changed out engine to give it more power.
It is a 1978, Made by Squadron Yachts in Bristol Rhode Island with bronze builders plate and all. Both I and the former owner believe it to be a custom factory job not listed in standard models brochures. You will too once you see the workmanship in the details. The only obvious remuddle was the replacement of the diesel with a 120hp merc. w reduction. The Hydrolic dual helms look original.
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Finish cabin
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC09883_edited.jpg)
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Herreshoff Harbor Pilot - that SOLD !
Joe,
Thanks for touching base. I see one for sale up on Lake Michigan for 18K - a bit pricey for me, but they say it is "mint". This sounds like a good boat for me. Are you the big Kahuna up there at Cardinal?
Herk
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Joe,
The Pilot I purchased does not appear to have scuppers. Is that normal? It appears the deck is
above the waterline. Just wondering.
Herk in Cape May
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Joe,
The Pilot I purchased does not appear to have scuppers. Is that normal? It appears the deck is
above the waterline. Just wondering.
Herk in Cape May
Its Nornal ........ Herk ,i want to come and see your pilot in Cape May ! Where is she docked ?
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i'm going to Cape May , NJ.... tomorrow to see the newly purchase Herreshoff Harbor Pilot , from City Island , NY .... as stated above it is a 1974 - Hull # 5
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Nice looking red hull 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot # 5 .... it has a Yanmar 18hp fresh water cooled diesel motor , boat is in great shape , has mast & boom ..... need a little TLC but that about it ....
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Original Herreshoff Harbor Pilot mast with anchor light ....
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC09605_edited-1.jpg)
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC09615_edited.jpg)
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Cleaned up the Anchor light hardware ....
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC09650_edited.jpg?t=1290213908)
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One of the Engine Cover air vent .....(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC09611_edited.jpg)
Cable to Engine Cover Lid
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Boom Hardware......
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC09623_edited.jpg)
BOOM
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC09621_edited.jpg)
PROP
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Updated Photo's of Pilot .....
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Boom.....
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC09618_edited.jpg)
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Original Pilot Mast with Anchor Light .....
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air intake vents & blower ,,,,,
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Repaired Original Diesel Steel Fuel Tank
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Replace piece of Teak & added a piece a Bass ...
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RyanR
Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southeast PA
Posts: 37
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I've driven past this boat so many times when it was parked across from the chappy fire company. I always thought it was a beautiful boat but it hadn't moved in years. I'd love to see some pics of the restoration!
Rare Herreshoff Harbor Yacht Launch ....
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/IMG00001-20100915-1203-1_edited.jpg)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RyanR
I've driven past this boat so many times when it was parked across from the chappy fire company. I always thought it was a beautiful boat but it hadn't moved in years. I'd love to see some pics of the restoration!
Yea it is the Only Herrshoff Harbor Lanuch that i have seen , and this one is a beauty ..... I'm guessing but i think it has the same engine as mine - Westerkebe 30 hp Diesel which was standard in this Herreshoff model and option in my Pilot model .....
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Door Hardware.....
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Before
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After
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More New Cushions .....
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Before
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After
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Hardware for the boom ...
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RBStuart
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Hull #7 in Maine
« Sent to: Cardinal Joe on: December 18, 2010, 09:47:27 AM »
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Does anyone have contact information for Harbor Pilot that was listed, I believe, on Craig's List - Hull #7, original gasoline engine, located in Maine?
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Do you have a copy of the Craig List posting on Hull # 7 .....
RBStuart [/b]link=action=profile;u=219 date=1292970901]
Unfortunately, no. I've been distracted recently, and have lost or misplaced or forgotten all that information.
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For Sale ?
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The Herreshoff Harbor Pilot – is just looking to NICE to launch in the
Spring! I’m thinking its time to SELL the old girl, now that she is totally restored back to how she looked in 1974.
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Joe - This might intrerest you - Back in the early 90's I had heard that the molds fro the HA had been sold to a guy in Florida and was hoping to re-introduce the boats -not sure if this would have been just the catboat or all the models...and as far as I know it never got off the ground. Anyway eventually as you know the molds made there way to Com-pac where they were modified to be their Horizon Cat. Well, a guy over at the CBA site is selling what he claims is a 1994 build of the Herreshoff cat (in a tabernacle marconi rig no less) - other then the ports looking like the old Herman Cats (round) looks to me like a Herreshoff America. maybe you can find out if this is a "one off" from before Com-Pac?
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Adam - thanks for the above infor. - I'll look into it ..... Cardinal Joe
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Another Herreshoff Harbor Pilot for SALE in MI .....
18' Herreshoff Pilot
Year: 1974
Current Price: US$ 9,500
Located In Charlevoix, MI
Hull Material: Fiberglass
Engine/Fuel Type: Single Gas/Petrol
YW# 21944-2277115
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What's is one good looking red hull - Painted or Gel coated ? Big Differance in Price ...... $ 1200.00 for Paint Job and $ 4000.00 for Gel Coat Job !
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18' Herreshoff Harbor Pilot
•Boat Name: LOLA
•Year: 1975
•Last Listed Price: US$ 18,000 (10/06)
•Sold: US$ 16,500 (02/07)
•Located in Sausalito, CA
•Hull Material: Fiberglass
•Engine/Fuel Type: Single Diesel
•YW# 75382-1608192
•Open/Non-Exclusive Listing
•Available for co-brokerage
•Sold
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LOLA......
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Growler is equipped with a towing bit, seaswing stove, tools/toolbox, life jackets and port a potty. 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot - " SOLD "
A well built and well-found motor vessel ideal for daily endeavors and weekend pleasures. Constructed by skilled craftsmen at Bristol, Rholde Island, of modern fiberglass materials, teak bright work with bronze hardware and navigation lights.
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SIGHTING - " Herreshoff Bay Fisherman 18 " - this is also a Rare Boat ,along with the Pilot Model .....
Built by Squadron Yachts this down east style launch is a modern classic. She features a 30 HP diesel engine, enclosed head, yacht club launch seating. This is the perfect boat for taking the guys out fishing in the bay or proudly puling up for dinner in front of the yacht club! She's one of a kind in Newport Beach,CA.
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Cool. Don't think I've ever seen one - too bad the cover is on...
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Cool. Don't think I've ever seen one - too bad the cover is on...
Not a problem ! I have more Photo's of the Herreshoff Bay Fisherman 18
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Just Reduced my Pilot .... Cardinal Joe
1974 - Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Launch - It has a lifting Boom & Mast for Lobster or Crab pots hauling . Inboard diesel - Westerbeke - 4 cyl. 30 hp with a Heat Exchanger unit . Calling all Purists. Hull # 63 is for sale. Meticulously Restored to Original, back in 1974. she will cruise @ 8 knots. Under 350 hours .All new wiring including engine harness ,many ,many new parts .... Complete Restorartion of entire vessel. Custom 23ft.Trailer
Herreshoff - designed SIX Models from this Cat Hull ! The Pilot is one of the Rare ones !
Price just Reduced to $22000.00 from $25000.00
-New restored fuel tank (2011)
-New red gel coat on hull (2010)
-Rebuilt starter motor (2010)
-Rebuilt alternator unit (2010)
-Rebuilt Westerbeke 30 hp diesel motor (2010)
-Rebuilt outboard rudder & bronze hardware (2010)
-Replaced rear main transmission seal & pressure lines (2009)
-Stripped bottom paint to gel coat then Barrier coat & bottom paint (2010)
-New cockpit cushions and instrument gauges (2010)
-New fan vent unit in cabin (2010)
-New heavy duty blower unit to cool diesel motor (2010)
-Replaced windows in pilot house & vanished trim (2010)
-Restored teak rails and trim (2010)
-Painted decks and cockpit (2010)
-All new wring of total boat including engine harness (2010)
-Rebuilt custom tilt galv. trailer including wiring/lights for long hauls (2010)
-Polished all bronze hardware (2010)
-Recondition bronze prop (2010)
-New engine cables (2010)
-New hand rails on cabin top (2010)
-New metal air cleaner/filter unit for motor (2010)
-New fuse circuit panel (2010)
-Purchase bronze port hole unit to see through cabin (2010)
-New ignition key & kill button unit (2010)
-New bilge pump & float switch (2101)
-Add hours & hours of restoration work done on this pilot …
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My Pilot mention for Sale above .....
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LITTLE TOOT
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I put Little Toot in the water last week for the first time in two years. Figured it was better to use her then let her sit until I am ready for the complete restoration. So far in just a week I have put 10 hours on her. The wife, who hates most of my boats, loves Little Toot. Last night she stopped at Boston Market and picked up dinner. We took Toot over to Silver Bay and dropped the hook. We had the place to ourselves.
The crossing to Silver Bay was interesting. The wind was blowing about 20kts out of the ENE. Seas where breaking, white caps, at about 2-3 feet. The boat handled the sea condition very well. Following sea was a piece of cake. Straight beam was ok, as we did take spray into the cockpit. The boat had no tendency to roll or broach. The trip back home into a headsea was a wet one. We took spray over the pilot house. Turned to a quartering headsea and only took spray into the cockpit.
Not one other boat out on the trip home. We had the whole north end of the Barnegate Bay to ourselves except for the seagulls and ospreys.
Really cool little boat that can handle some big stuff.
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Hard to tell from that angle but I think your catboat "Sea Bird" is a Marshall 18 not an America.
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Hard to tell from that angle but I think your catboat "Sea Bird" is a Marshall 18 not an America.
Could be ? with out seeing the Bow , I'm not 100 % sure its a Herreshoff America ? Thanks Joe
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Pic's of my Westerbeke 30 hp Diesel in differ stages > Only 350 hours on this motor.....
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Removal...
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Farrow Blasting Unit ( paint removal ) used on motor.....
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Westerbeke was Overhauled /Serviced/ Primer paint...
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Engine Area with New Motor Wiring Harness ....
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How does one find out if a boat is still available and contact the owner? This is really opaque to me at this point.
Dave
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Hi Dave - We keep a list of original built HMCo boats that are for sale on a "For Sale" page. Go to the top banner and click on the "Registry" link. You can send a PM (Personal Message) or E-mail to Steve or myself if something is of intrest. We then will make contact with the owner or give you the information.
Additionally there is a for sale section of this forum where people will post items and boats for sale - this will include original HMCo hulls as well as newer builds (such as Fiberglass repros, or the "Pilot" on this thread) . You can PM them directly through the forum - or an e-mail. Use the little envelope or quote box symbol on the lower left hand side of each post.
Let me know if you have any questions.
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Updated Pic's on my Pilot ...... Cardinal Joe
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I have an opportunity to aquire a H18 Catboat. it is a 1980 built by Aquarius, and the plate on the centerboard trunk cover says Herreshoff. I've been considering turning thesailboat plan into a launch plan. I have an excellent builder interested in doing the work. seeing that it was a sailboat, it was set up for an outboard. is it practical to convert to an inboard, and does anybody know of any used inboard diesels available? I am well aware of new diesel cost, so it seems that used is the best route if planning to go inboard. New to the forum and site. seems like alot of good knowledge here!
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With the mods you are looking to do i'd contact the original designer. Call Adam Langerman at Herreshoff Designs:
http://herreshoffdesigns.com/
info@herreshoffdesigns.com
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I donated mine to the Mass Maritime program, you can steal it from them. They picked it up in May...it has a great engine. Sounds like you sold your last project. Hope you get it. Jack
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From: Joe Cannavo
To: 'Jack Maher' ; 'Jack Holgate'
Cc: 'Joe Cannavo'
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 4:28 PM
Subject: Looking for a Herreshoff harbor Pilot for sale !
I may know of one , if it has not sold - " Sky King " with a 47 hp Diesel in it!
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Jack Holgate <jholgate@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Joe,
> I'm looking for Herreshoff Harbor Pilot project similar to the one you recently completed. I'm a retired Navy man but I've spent all my time on two and four wheeled restoration projects rather than waterborne ones in recent years. (You can see a few at http://www.etagloh.phanfare.com/ if you're interested.) However, after searching for some time for a boat like the Harbor Pilot I stumbled across your lengthy restoration effort on the Bass Barn forum and was smitten. This is what I have been looking for.> Being retired I don't have gobs of money to put into something like this all at once but I can undertake a long-range effort and would like to bring a Harbor Pilot back to life and use it for the rest of my life.
> Let me know if you know of anything available and if not keep me on your "looking for" list.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Jack Holgate
> Hartsville, SC
> (not too far from Myrtle Beach)
Jack Holgate jholgate@bellsouth.net
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I have recently launched my Herreshoff Yacht Club Launch. It is located in Somerset, MA. I purchased it from William Simich. He bought it in CA and had it shipped to Burr Brothers in Marion, MA. The HIN is TSPHP089M771. The title lists it as a 1977 and the builders plate lists Squadron Yachts as the builder. The original engine was an Iszu Pices 27 2cyl diesel. The engine was not running when I purchased the boat, the owner said it had water in one cyl., and I just happened to have a Yanmar 3GM30F sitting in my garage with no home so I installed that. I don't know how to upload pics on this site so if you want to see it let me know your email address and I will forward you some.
Doc
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Seeswell > sent me your pic's and i'll post them up for you ! My is joec@cardinalyachtsales.com or jcannavo@gmail.com ......
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The HIN is TSPHP089M771. The title lists it as a 1977 and the builders plate lists Squadron Yachts as the builder.
Seeswell - your Pilot is Hull # 89 ! Hum..... the Vin# = 1971 , you say its a 1977 . :-\
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Joe,
The title lists it as a 1977 but I agree with you that it should be a 1971. Squadron Yachts does not seem to have built any boats prior to 1977 and HIN were not required in 1971 so my quess is that what looks like a 1 is actually a poorly formed 7? :-\
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Hull Identification Numbers – Some answers to your questions!
The Hull Identification Number (referred to as a “HIN number”) typically consists of (12) characters – usually capital letters and Arabic numbers with no spaces, slashes, hyphens or other marks in between the letters.
A (3) digit “Manufacturers Identification Code – MIC” is followed by a (5) character set representing the manufacturers hull serial number and… another (4) figures that will represent the date of manufacture.
So it’s going to look like this….
“ABC followed by 12345 and then 6789”
The first three letters (MIC) will be made in block capital letters or in some cases a mix of letters and numbers (letters are most typical.) These are issued or assigned (in the US) by the Coast Guard and it identifies the plant of manufacture that is unique to the organization or it can simply represent the organization to whom it was issued.
The next four to eight numbers (depends on which manufacturer built the hull… some use 5 characters, some 6, 7 or 8. These are the individual characters that represent the unique hull serial number assigned to that hull. No two boats are assigned the same number and like the others, these too will be capital letters and/or Arabic numbers with one exception… the letters “I”, “O” and “Q” cannot be used.
The last set of numbers (usually four) are often combinations of letters and numbers that will indicate a month and year of manufacture and the model year for which the boat is built. The “date code” aspect of this set has been handled in three different ways over the years and has to be “interpreted” according to some of the following information.
Country Code – This is an optional addition to the Hull Identification Number. Manufacturers of boats have the option of adding the prefix – i.e. “CA-“ (block capitals and a hyphen) in front of the HIN number. This is a mandatory requirement for manufacturers who are exporting to another country (such as the European community) however this is not a part of the accepted mutual recognition of Hull Identification Numbers between the US and Canada.
Marking on the Hull – The HIN number is to be permanently affixed into the hull or hull member, or on a plate, such that the removal of the HIN or plate would be obvious and non-normal to the surrounding surfaces or area. No character of the HIN is to be less than 6 mm (.250”) in height and width. The HIN is to be located as follows:
On the transom above the load waterline (prefereably on the upper starboard quadrant.)
The starboard side at the aft end of the hull that bears the rudder or steering mechanism if the boat has no transom.
The outermost starboard side at the aft end of the hull, if the boat has more than one hull and no transom.
Some manufacturers had added some additional characters after the HIN but separated from the HIN by a hyphen. (Keep in mind this system is geared to work with all boats, pleasure, commercial, aluminum, fiberglass, sail, power, etc. – so the hull and manufacturer variations do take in some latitude.)
The three different numbering systems used are as follows … (newest version first) - The simplest way to figure which one your boat is using is to first identify the year you believe the hull was built. Then look for the system that was most likely in use during that time.
System 1
Most builders started using this format in January of 1985 and it is still in use today.
ZZZ 12345 A 5 88
ZZZ - MIC code (Unique to the company that built the hull)
12345 – Hull Serial number
A – Month of manufacture
5 – Year of manufacture
88 – Model year
All of this goes with the following letter designations for each month as follows:
January – A February – B March – C April – D May – E June – F
July – G August – H September – I October – J November – K December – L
Character nine is the letter of the alphabet that indicates the month during which construction or assembly began.
Character ten is the last numeral of the Year during which construction or assembly began.
Characters eleven and twelve are the last two numerals representing the Model Year for which the boat was built.
FYI… it’s always a bit confusing for those boats who may be documented, registered or licensed as being a 1988 (built in December) but may not have been completed for any number of reasons until the first, second or third month in 1989. It doesn’t mean anything significant but some people want to get attached to the specific “Tuesday” when she rolled out of the shed! They’re going to have some problems with this….
System 2
Most builders used this format from the “mid-70’s” until December of 1984 and some still continued to utilize the previous (earlier) system. (Initially this system was adopted and “suggested for use” and later on it was not a suggestion by the Coast Guard but a mandatory request. That’s why some manufacturers took their own time to comply or not.)
ZZZ 12345 G77E
ZZZ - MIC code (Unique to the company that built the hull)
12345 – Hull Serial number
G77E – Month and year of manufacture
All of this goes with the following letter designations for each month as follows:
August – A Sept – B October – C November – D December – E
January – F February – G March – H April – I May – J June – K July - L
Character nine is the spacer letter (G) – before the year.
Character ten and eleven are the last two numerals of the model year, which begins in August of the preceeding calendar year.
Character twelve is a letter of the alphabet indicating the month during which construction or assembly began.
System 3
Most builders used this format (on a more voluntary basis than regulatory) from the 1960’s until the mid 1970’s and some converted to the newer system ahead of others.
ZZZ 12345 1275
ZZZ - MIC code (Unique to the company that built the hull)
12345 – Hull Serial number
1275 – Month and year of manufacture – clearly simpler than the coded system.
Character nine and ten indicate the actual calendar month (01 thru 12) used.
Character eleven and twelve are the last two numerals of the calendar year.
In this case, the date of manufacture is the month and year during which the construction or assembly began.
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System 2
Most builders used this format from the “mid-70’s” until December of 1984 and some still continued to utilize the previous (earlier) system. (Initially this system was adopted and “suggested for use” and later on it was not a suggestion by the Coast Guard but a mandatory request. That’s why some manufacturers took their own time to comply or not.)
G77E – Month and year of manufacture
Your Pilot could have been built on April 1977 = I (april) + 77 being the year - M = ?
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" M " = Character nine is the spacer letter (M) – before the year.
The HIN is TSPHP089M771. Seeswell are you sure that the 1 is not a I ?
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Adam - your thoughts ???? TSPHP089M771.
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The HIN is TSPHP089M771. The title lists it as a 1977 and the builders plate lists Squadron Yachts as the builder.
MIC Company Address City State
TSP
TPI COMPOSITES, INC P.O. BOX 367 WARREN RI
who built the hull for " Squadron Yachts " ......
TPI Composites Marine Division (formerly Tillotson-Pearson Inc)Marine Products , Warren, Rhode Island, United States
Since 1968 TPI has delivered cutting edge composite technology that has been pivotal in the development of many commercially successful products.
In the late 80’s, TPI identified a manufacturing process that consistently produces a superior quality, highly structural, large composite part while eliminating the harmful VOC emissions. This process is know as SCRIMP® (Seemann Composites Resin Infusion Molding Process). TPI purchased the rights and has been successfully SCRIMPing parts for more than 10 years.
Today TPI is using SCRIMP® technology in a variety of ways to produce products that meet our clients’ exacting design requirements. Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Wind Blades, Poma-Otis People Movers and components for U.S. Military vehicles are just a few examples of TPI SCRIMP® technology in use.
In 2004, TPI Composites announced a new ownership team, Landmark Growth Capital Partners and TPI senior management. This exciting change has allowed TPI to capitalize on growth in the wind energy, transportation and military sectors.
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Joe,
The title lists it as a 1977 but I agree with you that it should be a 1971. Squadron Yachts does not seem to have built any boats prior to 1977 and HIN were not required in 1971 so my quess is that what looks like a 1 is actually a poorly formed 7? :-\
My Pliot is a Squadron Yachts boat - TSPHP 06308 74 = Hull # 63 , 08 = August , 74 = Year ! My Title states Squ and year 1975 !
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FYI, I have a Harbor Pilot TSPHP086M78A that I would like to sell. She has been on the hard for the past five years and needs attention to wood work and gel coat but was repowered by Oldport Marine with a Yanmar 3GM about eight or ten years ago with 500hrs on the meter. Have mast, steadying sail etc. Also has a trailer (that needs brakes). I am the third owner as far as I can tell. I believe she was originally owned by the Newport RI harbormaster. She ran well when I took her out and winterized the engine. Will undoubtedly need the fuel tank flushed (old fuel) and new batteries too. This is a project boat primarily due to the long layup and cosmetics. She is otherwise sound.
Lovely boat, I just decided to go back to sail and didn't have time to manage two boats. Currently on Prudence Island, RI. Contact me if you are interested. Have some photos but don't know how to post them here.
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IslandTractor, please send photos to me at jholgate@bellsouth.net
I've sent you a private message as well.
Jack
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hi, im interested in buying a harbor pilot or pilot launch,new to site having hard time learning how to navigate your site, forgive me for errors .trying to respond to islandtractor about boat for sale jim 931 823 1680 hewitt133@twlakes.net
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IslandTractor....Harbor Pilot TSPHP086M78A > Hull # 86 , Year- 1978 , Month- January.
Could you post up some pictures of this Herreshoff Harbor Pilot that is for sale ......
Thanks , Cardinal Joe
PS > if you need help posting up the pic's , just ask for help !
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FYI, I have a Harbor Pilot TSPHP086M78A that I would like to sell. Have mast, steadying sail etc.
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Does the pilot have the Rare Original Bronze Anchor Light at the top of the mast ? also the steadying Sail + Boom are very hard to find , most Pilot don't have them , either lost in storing ,etc,etc .
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Well , I decided to install the $$$$ Bronze Port Hole Window into the bulk head wall of the Pilot, now i can see through the cabin !
Oh, I also had a Custom Cover made to protect the Gauges , Starting/Pre Start Buttons, Fuse Panel + Wooden Steering Wheel .
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Looks good, Joe.
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FYI, I have a Harbor Pilot TSPHP086M78A that I would like to sell. Have some photos but don't know how to post them here.
I would like to post up some pictures of your Pilot - My email is joec@cardinalyachts.com or jcannavo@gmail.com ........ Thanks Joe
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Before foto .....
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Another Herreshoff Harbor Pilots that have SOLD in the past !
GROWLER
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LOLA
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Herreshoff Harbor Launch ....
Additional Specs, Equipment and Information:
Builder/Designer
Designer: Herreshoff ........Builder: Squadron Yachts
Dimensions: LOA: 18'
Engine(s): Single diesel Engine...... Engine Model: Pisces 27 HP...........
Hours: 940
Tankage - Fuel: 20 est
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joe ,i like the harbor launch,this would be a fun boat on dale hollow lake ,is it your boat and is it for sale,i have a lead on one that is fire damaged in northeast ,waiting for photos . jim
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Jim,
I have one that I might part with. It is in excellent condition. Includes a trailer. If you are interested email me for particulars. It is located in MA.
Bill
seeswell@comcast.net
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joe ,i like the harbor launch,this would be a fun boat on dale hollow lake ,is it your boat and is it for sale,i have a lead on one that is fire damaged in northeast ,waiting for photos . jim
It was SOLD ! Boat was > •Located in Huntington Beach, CA
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Joe,
Do you know the hull # of that boat? The person who owned my boat before me purchased it in California and had it shipped to Burr Brothers in Marion MA.
Bill
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Joe,
Do you know the hull # of that boat? The person who owned my boat before me purchased it in California and had it shipped to Burr Brothers in Marion MA.
Bill
Bill - Sorry.... but i do not know the Hull # ...... Does your Launch of a 27 hp - •2 cylnder Pisces diesel fresh water cooled engine ? Pisces was Not a standard motor back when this Herreshoff Harbor Lanuch was built - it should have been a Westerbeke 30 hp Fresh Water Cooled Diesel !
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Joe,
It had a Pices fresh water cooled diesel that was frozen when I got the boat and I replaced it with a Yanmar 3GM30F. I emailed you some pics awhile ago that you were going to post, you did email me back to say that you received them. If you still have themthe only differences I can see is the addition of the bow dodger, and vhf radio which the previous owner had put on by Burr Brothers.
Bill
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Could you Please send me those Pic's again ...... I must have misplaced them ? Thanks Joe > my email is jcannavo@gmail.com
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Joe,
I will get them out to you right away. The thing that really caught my eye was that my boat even has a kicker bracket mounted in the same place as that boat and my battery switch is in the same location, although that could have been a standard location if it was a stock item.
Bill
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Quote >my battery switch is in the same location, although that could have been a standard location if it was a stock item.
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What kind/size trailer would be ideal for long-towing a Harbor Pilot and what would be a minimal one? Is single axle acceptable?
Jack
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John,
Looking closely at the pictures of the yacht club launch from CA I can tell you that it is without a doubt my boat. It is back in New England less than 12mi from where she was originally built. I was wrong about the vhf radio being installed by the person I purchased it from as it is obviously there on the port side of the console. The black square on the front of the console is the remote speaker for the vhf. My boat also has 4 rod holders on the engine cover located in the same place as those shown on that boat. You may have noticed a small black spot to the port side of the battery switch, that is an on/off toggle switch for a raw water wash down pump. I will send you some more pics as soon as I relaunch the boat this weekend, I pulled it for Irene.
Bill
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Custom Herreshoff Harbor Pilot
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Another Custom Pilot
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Looking for something different ?? Here she is a 1975 Herreshoff Yacht Club Launch.{the bow dodge has been replaced with a full canvas top } ...Powered with a 60 H.P. Gray Marine I.B with a manual gear.
** Note the position of the Helm Console > mounted on the Port side **
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Mast and Boom with Original Bronze Anchor Light
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]for sale on e bay 1000 no engine,i have been waiting for photos ,too far gone for me, but if it was down the block for easy pickup it would be in my driveway.i have pictures but dont have slightest idea how to post them
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send them to me and i'll post them up on this site ..... jcannavo@gmail.com
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]for sale on e bay 1000 no engine,i have been waiting for photos ,too far gone for me, but if it was down the block for easy pickup it would be in my driveway.i have pictures but dont have slightest idea how to post them
1976 Squadron Yachts 18' Launch
Herreshoff Pilot Launch ...... Item Location: Salem, Massachusetts, United States .....This is possibly hull number one of the herreshoff Pilot's built by Squadron Yachts in the 70's. For a classic plastic collector or rebuilder this may be worth a look at. Boat is in as is condition. Extensive fire damage to the starboard stern quarter. The boat is repairable. The boat can be bought w/out the engine.
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Hull ID Number: TSPH079M76J this is hull #79 in 1976 ..... Not hull # 1 as referred above in the ebay statement !
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eBay boat above....
1976 Squadron Yachts 18' Launch
Condition: Used: A vehicle is considered used if it has been registered and issued a title. Used vehicles have had at least one previous owner. The condition of the exterior, interior and engine can vary depending on the vehicle's history. See the seller's listing for full details and description of any imperfections. See all condition definitions- opens in a new window or tab... Read moreabout the condition
Title: Herreshoff Pilot Launch
Vehicle Information
Hull ID Number: TSPH079M76J
Features
Type: Launch Rigging: -- Use: --
Length (feet): 18.0 Keel: -- Primary fuel type: Diesel
Beam (feet): -- Engine type: Inboard , Fuel capacity (gallons): 11-20 ,
Hull material: Fiberglass , Engine make: Yanmar , Trailer:
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Extensive Fire Damage on this Herreshoff Bay Fisherman (note the helm is on the portside of the boat )......
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Sighting ...... I'm in Southwest Harbor Maine (near Bar Harbor ) when I spotted a Herreshoff Bay Fisherman - Red Hull with Biege Dodger Cruising along the Harbor heading to one of three outter islands ( Cranberry, Little Cranberry and Islesford ).... and I didn"t have my camera with me . But i do have a similar foto of a red hull Herreshoff Harbor Launch with a bow dodger ! Which i will post up tomorrow!
Remember the only differance between a Bay Fisherman model VS Harbor Launch model is the position of the Helm.... and the Bow Dodger was standard on the Bay Fisherman Model and optional on the Harbor Lanuch Model.......
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Herreshoff Harbor Lanuch with Optional Bow Dodger.......
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I have a Theory on the Herreshoff Pilot Models > Harbor ,Bay Fisherman and Launch series Pilots , the Hull #'s are in Sequence! Hull ID #'s on all three Pilots Models all have a Bronze Plate stating Herreshoff Pilot has shown below :
In looking at the eBay Auction Herreshoff Bay Fisherman its hull # is 79 in 1976 and looking at the hull # of the Herreshoff Harbor Launch with the opitional bow dodger which is Hull # 89 in 1977 and my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Hull # 63 in 1974 ...... Well there is just No way that there could be 79 Bay Fisherman models or 89 of the Harbor Launch boats produced ......!!!!!!
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Back in 2009 , i raised a similar question , stated below ....
Someone on CBA stated - there are 150 Herreshoff America ?
I wonder if the Hull # on these Herreshoff Hulls are the # of hulls produced for all six models or are they individual hull #'s for each model ?
« Last Edit: December 17, 2009, 08:53:27 AM by Cardinal Joe »
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In 1985 Nauset Marine ..... Located in Hyannis MA ..... Started to produce the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Model after purchasing the Original Molds of the Herreshoff Pilot ..... Nauset Marine modified the Hull Mold to have " No Cat Rudder " ( Most of the early Herreshoff Harbor Pilots have a Cat Like Rudder )
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So , the question is did Nauset Marine start a New Hull # series or leave off with the early Hull #'s from Squadron Yachts ?
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These Bronze plates are from my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot .....
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Sighting ...... I'm in Southwest Harbor Maine (near Bar Harbor ) when I spotted a Herreshoff Bay Fisherman - Red Hull with Biege Dodger Cruising along the Harbor heading to one of three outter islands ( Cranberry, Little Cranberry and Islesford ).... and I didn"t have my camera with me . But i do have a similar foto of a red hull Herreshoff Harbor Launch with a bow dodger ! Which i will post up tomorrow!
Remember the only differance between a Bay Fisherman model VS Harbor Launch model is the position of the Helm.... and the Bow Dodger was standard on the Bay Fisherman Model and optional on the Harbor Lanuch Model.......
I found the Herreshoff Pilot ( Bay Fisherman Model ) that i spoted the other day , it is on a mooring ball off of Sutton Island! Which is one of 5 small Islands off of Southwest , Northeast and Bar Harbor , Maine.....Pictures to follow:
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located on mooring ball off of Sutton lsland, Maine.......
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Note > this Herreshoff Bay Fisherman 18 doesn't have a wooden steering wheel , but instead a Rudder Control Arm Handle ......
The Owner name is Charlie Lyman of Sutton Island and Vermont , anyone know him or of the Herreshoff 18 ?
The second part of the boats name is ....... Elizabeth .
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The reason I don't have better pictures of this Herreshoff Bay Fisherman is that the family 1969 Mako 19 footer that i have been using since 1969 had some motor issues , so i had to take the mail boat to the Outer Islands. This was as near to the Herreshoff that i could get to take these less than perfect foto's.......
1969 Mako 19 ft.
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Hello everyone. New to the registry but have been a fan of the 18 ft Harbor Pilot for some time. Finally saved a little money and am looking for a decent one but that won't break my bank that can use some TLC in the Northeast area. If anybody knows of any for sale please let me know.
Thanks
Brian
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Welcome aboard Brian. How much you looking to spend?
Doc
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Hello everyone. New to the registry but have been a fan of the 18 ft Harbor Pilot for some time. Finally saved a little money and am looking for a decent one but that won't break my bank that can use some TLC in the Northeast area. If anybody knows of any for sale please let me know.
Thanks
Brian
Brian - WELCOME Aboard !!!!!! If you have any questions about The Herreshoff Pilot series , just post up your questions .... Cardinal Joe
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Well , in reviewing my posting of the eBay Herreshoff Bay Fisherman that had extensive fire damage . I notice something puzzling ? :-\
So, i look up the Vin # again , and i was really puzzled ! :o
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Hull ID Number: TSPH079M76J this is hull #79 in 1976 .....
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Welcome aboard Brian. How much you looking to spend?
Doc
Thanks Doc. I m trying to get a decent, seaworthy boat that needs some restoration but not a complete rebuild like the fire damaged one shown on ebay. My budget is limitted but may be able to find some more cash for the right boat. Thanks for the interest
Brian
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Well , in reviewing my posting of the eBay Herreshoff Bay Fisherman that had extensive fire damage . I notice something puzzling ? :-\
So, i look up the Vin # again , and i was really puzzled ! :o
Hull ID Number: TSPH079M76J this is hull #79 in 1976 .....
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Another Sighting of a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot in " Martha's Vineyard "... Looks like a Nauset Harbor Pilot Edition boat to me , they built them Without the Cat Rudder ....
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Another Sighting -1985 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot - Located in Hyannis MA at Nauset Marine. Nauset Edition ! " No Cat Rudder "
( Most of the Herreshoff Harbor Pilots have a Cat Like Rudder )
But this one was manufactured like that !
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i thought that the 1985 Nauset edition started the " No Cat Rudder " production , but I was WRONG !
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SQUADRON YACHTS,INC started the "NO Rudder" ,
edtion > Herreshoff 18' Herreshoff Harbor Pilot in 1975....
•Boat Name: LOLA
•Year: 1975
Harbor Pilot in 1975 ......
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So , the question is did Nauset Marine start a New Hull # series or leave off with the early Hull #'s from Squadron Yachts ? Well , 1985 Sky King is hull # 115 . need to find some pilot's with hull #'s from 95 to 114 .
Joe - Nauset purchased the Harbor Pilot, America, Eagle and Scout molds from Squadron Yachts in the early 80's. Nauset built a handful of Pilots, America's and Downeasters(Eagles), the Scout never went into production. The America molds were later sold and the Scout, Downeaster and pilot molds were later scraped do to thier poor condition.Sky Kings' hull number started at 111, not 101 as I stated, My mistake, sorry never to happen again! Any other questions give me a shout I'll do my best to answer them. From :
"'David Deschamps'" <david@nausetmarine.com>; <aaron@nausetmarine.com>
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Correction - I think ????? Nowalk and Williams started building the Pilot's first in 1974 with the Cat Rudder and stop production the same year ,Why ???? and then came SQUADRON YACHTS,INC - who continue the Cat rudder design through 1974 year . Then change over to the "NO Cat Rudder"edtion in 1975.... along comes Nauset Marine edtion in 1985 , who purchase the modified hull mold (No Cat Rudder) from SQUADRON YACHTS ,INC .......
I need Hull #'s on some of these Pilot's to truly know if my theories are Correct ..... Cardinal Joe
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My 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot 18 is up for sale on Yacht World ! Search under Herreshoff and it will pop up , check it out ...... Cardinal Joe
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SQUADRON YACHTS,INC •Boat Name: LOLA
•Year: 1975 Harbor Pilot in 1975 ......
LOLA is Hull # 64
Owner statement -Built at the renowned Nowak & Williams yard in Bristol, Rhode Island, this classic Herreshoff is the only one available on the West Coast. Hull #64.
Well,I thought that Nowak & Williams when out of business in 1974 ? I have an issue with the owners statement , because my Pilot is Hull # 63 and my title states :SQUADRON YACHTS,INC ! Also my VIN # state it was built in 1974 , but the model year on my title is 1975.......
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Take note at the bottom of this bronze plate...it states Builder: SQUADRON YACHTS (1975 to ?).
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Now look at the bottom of my bronze plate ....it states Builder: Nowak & Williams (1974).
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I will update this poor foto with a new picture...
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So, why does my Pilot hull #63 state both Builder's Plates ? Well ,maybe Nowak & Williams started production of my 1974/1975 Pilot and SQUADRON YACHTS finish my Pilot ? Or when SQUADRON YACHTS purchased the Pilot Hull Mold from Nowak & Williams they obtain some left over Herreshoff Pilot Bronze plates ! ..... Obviously , this is another theory of mine .....
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Theories are nice base on some data. But , this is what we do know :
18' Herreshoff Harbor Pilot is Hull #2
•Year: 1974
•Last Listed Price: US$ 14,900 (09/09)
•Sold: US$ 12,000 (04/10)
•Located in E. Dennis, MA
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So, if hull #2 was built in 1974 by Nowak & Williams and i have not been able to locate any earlier years of the Pilot , it could be true , that the Nowak & Williams Yard only built these Pilots for one year 1974 !
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We also now know that this HULL was built in 1970 for the Herreshoff America model and 1974 for the Pilot Series.....
Quote from Herreshoff History
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HerreshoffHistory
Registered Member
Re: Herreshoff Cat Hull
The model is no. 1707.
You can find in the Herreshoff Marine Museum, in the workshop, at the
center of the east wall.
It's about 13.6" long.
The text on the back of the model reads:
"Herreshoff America July 19, 1970
18 ft Cat Boat
for Nowak & Williams Model by A. S. deWH.
Scale 3/4" = 1' "
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So who owns my LOLA now ?
I miss her so much !
Email brett@brettsaunders.com
http://brettsaunders.com/LOLA/ (http://brettsaunders.com/LOLA/)
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FUEL TANK installation and Battery management
Also, it appears that my Pilot is the only one that I have seen with the original steel (18 gal.) fuel tank ! Reason being is that over the years, they all rot out on the bottom of the tank and need to be replaced. My tank included, which developed tiny pin holes and I had them repaired so, I could stay original !
NOTE > that all of the Replaced fuel tanks in other pilots , either had to cut out a piece of the fiberglass trim to reinstall the hose clamps or cut out the fuel fill neck in the gunnels , to gain access to the top hose clamp fitting . The original fuel tank was installed before the top deck & side moldings were installed, leaving no direct access to the upper hose clamp. Removing the original tank was easy, by just cutting the fuel hose and removing the wooden floor trim that keep it in place. I had to invent a custom tool to be able to reinstall my original fuel tank back into my pilot ……. Take note on my Pilot that no piece of added teak trim was used to cover up the cut out section of the deck or side molded fiberglass trim …. I will show pic’s of other fuel tank installations on other Pilots. Note other owners had two choices either cut out a section of the deck/side trim or put in a smaller size fuel tank (12 to 15 gallons). There is another option of moving the fuel tank from its present location to another location ….. I was thinking about cutting out dual hatches on the port & starboard side of the cat bench seating and installing two 12 gal’s fuel tanks under the mold seating. This option would have worked just fine and even increased my travel range with the extra 6 gal’s of fuel, but I decided to stay original…… That is until I added the Bronze Port Hole to the cabin bulkhead wall. So I could see through the cabin when sitting on the custom teak cabinet seat that house my two batteries and a 30 amp plug in adaptor & volt meter gauge unit …. Note > being that the Pilot is NOT a self bailing boat and needs to work off of the batteries for the bilge pump , I had a 110 electrical outlet install so, that a 2amp battery charger unit could keep the batteries fully charged during rain storms , etc ,etc …. I would think if you were on a mooring ball, a solar panel unit connected to the batteries would also work fine, if it didn’t rain for 40 days & 40 nights????? …… Hum….????? Thoughts ….. My next topic will be the Location for the batteries on a Pilot !
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I have found many of earlier deleted pictures of work in progess on my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot hull #63 - pages 9 thru 15 on this forum . I have started re-posting them back up on this forum ..... many are of the Farrow Soda Blasting System , I used on the hull of my Pilot , along with the removal of my Westerbeke Diesel Engine , rewiring the Pilot , etc,etc .....
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Note the around plastic pie plate on the molding trim above the fuel tank , this was inserted to gain access to the hose clamp on the fuel line .
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Note on " LOLA " there is a piece of teak trim above the fuel tank . again to gain access to the hose clamp , the trim molding was cut out and this teak trim is to cover up ....
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This Pilot has Dual Fuel Tanks on each side , this was an Option at the Factory or the owner installed the other fuel tank for longer range between fill-up .
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These Pilot's installed New smaller tanks between 12 to 15 gal's instead of the orginal 18 gal's tank . With a smaller fuel tank , there is NO need to notch out an opening in the side molding , because everything is accessible .
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Original 18 gallon Fuel Tank on a Pilot ....
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Oversize Fuel tank replacement on this Pilot with a 47 hp BMW Engine.
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Finally found a Harbor Pilot. Now I just need to figure out how to get it from Connect to South Carolina.
Jack
http://www.etagloh.phanfare.com/5317847#imageID=141339502
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Finally found a Harbor Pilot. Now I just need to figure out how to get it from Connect to South Carolina.
Jack
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Finally found a Harbor Pilot. Now I just need to figure out how to get it from Connect to South Carolina.
Jack
WOW - Congradulations ! So, what year , gas or diesel , make of engine and Hull # or VIN # ????? PS - any foto of fuel tank ?
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The boat is a 1974 with a 25 Westerbeke. I don't have the paperwork yet. So I don't know the VIN or hull number and these are the the only photos I have right now. I'll post more info once I get the boat to South Carolina.
Jack
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Thanks Jack ..... If you can obtain a picture of the Westerbeke engine , i can tell you ,if indeed you really have a 25 hp ! I to thought my Pilot had a 25 hp motor , but at the Atlantic City Boat Show a few years back, i ran into the Westerbeke Factory Rep. and he ask me to send him a picture of my Westerbeke motor , because some of the Pilot edtion's had an optional upgrade motor, which was either the 25 hp or the 30 hp. The so called " Bullet Proof Westerbeke 30 hp diesel ", was made for the British Taxi Cab fleet in England and some of them are still in use today with thousands & thousands of hours on them .
The Herreshoff Harbor Launch model came standard with the Westerbeke 30 hp and the Fisherman model plus the Harbor Pilot model came with a standard Westerbeke 15 hp motor . The Westerbeke 25 hp would have been an upgraded option back in 1974 .
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Well, it was a very short season for my Pilot , she was only used for two weeks in late Aug. then i went on vacation in Maine and never put her back in Sept. ...... I had made a earlier decision not to launch her after all that restoration work had been done , because she was for sale. I will not make that same stupid decision again next season if she is still not sold ! She is now stored again inside for another Winter season .
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Joe,
Will do. I've been looking for a Westerbeke service manual for the 1970's era engines. Do you know the Model Number of the 25 HP and 30 HP Westerbekes?
Jack
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Westerbeke - 4 cyl. 25 hp with a Heat Exchanger unit . Model - four 91 , Spec. AS7-71CR
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Joe,
Thanks for the engine info. Looks like the Westerbeke 4-107 has the same footprint as the 4-91. Do you know if the Westerbeke generator motors are the same as the marine engines except for the transmissions?
Jack
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No, most of them have been "marinized " from another engine!
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My Westerbeke 30 hp in my 1974 Pilot. Turns out this is a British Leyland engine, the same one in the London taxicabs (I'm told)! Westerbeke marinized it, as they do with most of the engines they sell.
A recent discussion with one of the engineers at Westerbeke revealed that the original W-30 engine was designed to have a full throttle RPM of 2350 and that the reduction for best 'power' efficiency is at 2115 RPM.
I admit that even as experienced as I may be in my theory, I am guilty of rarely running my own Westerbeke at more than about 2000 RPM for what 'Sounds' and 'Feels' to be its comfort zone when powering upwind in a bit of a sea. Generally, if just wandering towards the next waypoint, the tachometer rarely sees more than about 1800 RPM and my Pilot clocks out a steady 5.9 knots, consuming about .5 gallons per hour. Fuel efficiency certainly suffers measurably for the sake of another quarter of a knot.
The Westerbeke 30 diesel in my boat spends far more time at 12 - 1500 RPM charging batteries that it does pushing the presumed 2200 pound (dry), cat displacement hull at 85% of the theoretical hull speed (of 6.8 knots).
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By design, the diesel engine thrives on a higher effort factor than the gasoline engine. This design element is most often determined by its predetermined load at a predicted RPM range. The diesel seems, by most experts, 'happiest' when it is carrying its expected load at 85-90% of its maximum RPM.
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Joe,
In answer to a couple of your questions:
The Harbor Pilot I just bought won't get to me in South Carolina for another week or two. But the paperwork I've received shows the hull number as TSPH05000774 and the boat was registered as a 1976. Should it have been a '74?
The motor is listed as a 25 hp Westerbeke diesel, 4-91, AS7-71CR, serial number 260B509, fresh water cooled. I don't know how many hours it has on it.
Full tank is supposedly aluminum - 18 gallon mounted amidship on the starboard side.
I sure am anxious for it to arrive. I don't know how much I'll be able to work on it over the winter (I have two other none boat projects underway). But I want to go over it thoroughly and begin a a "Must Do" list and an "eventually" one. My prime goal is getting it in the water come spring even if it might look a little shoddy. As much as I've wanted one of these boats, "pretty" can wait :)
Jack
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Quote - But the paperwork I've received shows the hull number as TSPH05000774 and the boat was registered as a 1976. Should it have been a '74?
Jack - your Pilot is hull # 50 ,built in July and its a 1974 - not a 1976 ..... because of two reason - one being the VIN# and the other is it has a Cat Rudder.....
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Thanks Joe. I thought the hull ID indicated it was a 1974.
By the way, how many Harbor Pilots were built over the years?
Jack
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Quote.. By the way, how many Harbor Pilots were built over the years?
Unknown at the present time , but i believe there could be 115 hulls in the Herreshoff Pilot Production Edtion , which includes the Harbor Pilot, Harbor Fisherman and Harbor Launch series ........
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Herreshoff Pilot Series was from 1974 to 1985 .....
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Nowak & Williams (1974) ,SQUADRON YACHTS,INC (1974 thru ? ) both companies located in Bristol, Rhode Island and Nauset Marine,(1985)Located in Hyannis MA
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Sky King .....update
fromJoseph Cannavo jcannavo@gmail.com
tomaher1@comcast.net
dateTue, Nov 1, 2011 at 4:05 PM
subjectHerreshoff Harbor Pilot
mailed-bygmail.com
hide details 4:05 PM (14 hours ago)
Jack - Did they every sell your herreshoff harbor pilot , do you know
its location ? Any Updates ?
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Maher maher1@comcast.net to me
show details 5:54 PM (13 hours ago)
I dontated the boat to MMA. I believe their auction is this month. I had one inquiry about the boat, gave the info and he said he planned ot bid on it.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Cannavo" <jcannavo@gmail.com>
To: <maher1@comcast.net>
Cc: <joec@cjamyachtsales.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 4:05 PM
Subject: Herreshoff Harbor Pilot
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North Cove Yacht Club History - ncycnews@gmail.com
North Cove Yacht Club (41 17' 4" N, 72 22' 0" W) is located in North Cove at the mouth of the Connecticut River in the town of Old Saybrook.
The club was created in 1968 by a small group of yachtsmen whose hailing port and homes were in Old Saybrook.
Over the last several years the Club has acquired a fleet of boats for members’ use. At present the fleet is comprised of a launch, three utility Boston Whalers, two rowing dinghies, ten sailing dinghies, three 420s and four Hunter 90s.
In 2001 the Club sold the existing launch and replaced it with a Herreshoff Pilot 18 ft. launch.
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Herreshoff Harbor Pilot trailer specs......
Bunk VS Roller Trailer for the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot .....
Greetings-------- in response to the trailer specifications for your HERRESHOFF Harbor Pilot I recently purchased a Sea Lion 18 foot 3100 pounds single axle bunked trailer. I transported a Herreshoff America from Smith Mountain Lake Virginia to Oneco Connecticut without any problems. After doing extensive research I decided upon purchasing a sea lion trailer it costs me approximately $1850 with a spare tire and tongue jack as added accessories. I have found the trailer to be of excellent quality with no defects and you will be able to purchase a similar vehicle by using their website. If I can be of any assistance please don't hesitate to call me at 1-860-591-8619<jacaparco@aol.com> ,best of luck in your future endeavors. Sincerely John Caparco -
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Posted By: Don Southwick <dolphindon1@cox.net>
Date: Monday, 15 March 2010, at 1:16 p.m.
In Response To: Herreshoff Harbor Pilot trailer specs (rbstuart)
My HA 18 sits on a roller trailer with four keel rollers. You need to have the keel supported and either fitted bunks, which will provide more support, or rollers, which are easier to fit, to support the hull as it is thin and won't support a lot of weight...My cat stays in my yard on the trailer, but if you are going to haul any distance, I would get a trailer with bunks that is fit to the hull. Dual axles will tow better than single, but it would be more difficult to move around manually. If distance is in your trailering plans, go with the dual axle if possible. Good luck. Don
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this post was this summer from the owner of "Little Toot".....
(http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=22251&d=1260574091)
I put Little Toot in the water last week for the first time in two years. Figured it was better to use her then let her sit until I am ready for the complete restoration. So far in just a week I have put 10 hours on her. The wife, who hates most of my boats, loves Little Toot. Last night she stopped at Boston Market and picked up dinner. We took Toot over to Silver Bay and dropped the hook. We had the place to ourselves.
The crossing to Silver Bay was interesting. The wind was blowing about 20kts out of the ENE. Seas where breaking, white caps, at about 2-3 feet. The boat handled the sea condition very well. Following sea was a piece of cake. Straight beam was ok, as we did take spray into the cockpit. The boat had no tendency to roll or broach. The trip back home into a headsea was a wet one. We took spray over the pilot house. Turned to a quartering headsea and only took spray into the cockpit.
Not one other boat out on the trip home. We had the whole north end of the Barnegate Bay to ourselves except for the seagulls and ospreys.
Really cool little boat that can handle some big stuff. ;D
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UPDATE on "NoVela"....
Subject: NoVela Info
From: Merrill Hall <mhall@hathawaysurveyors.com> (Add as Preferred Sender)
Date: Tue, Nov 01, 2011 3:03 pm
To: joec@cjamyachtsales.com
From Subject (Thread Messages) Date Size
Hi Joe,
HIN TSPHP0060374 (Hull #6) Built 1974 by TPI
Added 600# of lead ballast this spring. It made all the difference in the world lessening the roll considerably. Had the prop re-pitched from 10 to 12 which gives us 6kts at 3000 RPM. Ran through 12 gallons of diesel fuel which equates to roughly 50 hours steaming at 5kts.
Pics attached. I assume that you got the photos that I sent last time (should have been 14 shots.
Regards, Merrill
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Tom Taylor Asked: Still looking for a herreshoff harbor pilot after 3
years ......
Looking for a harbor pilot........Live or injured.......And hopefully
east of the mississippi.
Please contact me , tom taylor @tractorsetc@aol.com
Or call me @ 321.953.6577. (OFFICE)
There were two Herreshoff Harbor Pilots , in the water and up the
river in Annapolis - a Red & Green hull that i have been looking at
for over 7 years ,when visiting my brother in Eastport . ( both
Pilot's are owned by older gentlemen in the area).
Cardinal Joe > looked for them a few weeks ago during the 2011
Annapolis Power Boat Show , but could Not find either one of them
,where i told him they would be docked ....... Has anyone seen these
Herreshoff Harbor Pilots ?
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Well , the owner of the red hull Herreshoff Harbor Pilot in Annapolis , MD - called me yesterday ! One of the marina's in Annapolis ,that i stopped into to ask if anyone knew of or has seen the two Pilots , told the owner of the Red hull Pilot and gave him my cell # ......
The Red Hull is a Nowak & Williams (1974) and Hull #10 and has a newer diesel motor 15 hp ( forget the brand )......
The Green Hull is down from the red hull on a mooring ball an is owned by a local contractor , its not used much an is starting to show its lack of maintaince...... It does Not have a Cat Rudder possibly a 1975 or newer SQUADRON YACHTS,INC ........
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He also mention a sighting of a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot years ago in Marble Head in MA. Also , the Westerbeke Factory Rep. that i met at the AC Boat Show a few years back , stated he just worked on a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot in Marble Head , MA ...... Does anyone know of a Pilot in Ma. ?
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http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1974/Herreshoff-Harbor-Pilot-2301701/Somers-Point/NJ/United-States
and there's one up for silent auction held by Mass. Maritime Academy on Nov. 19-20: http://www.maritime.edu/apps/boats/
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I like the LFH BB17 - WCVTI BUZZARDS BAY * on that list....
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YUP ...... that's Sky King ! Herreshoff - * 1985 18' $12,000 - that's a steal at $12,000.00 - It has a BMW 47 hp motor .....
The other Pilot on yacht world is mine ......
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I talked a couple months ago to the owner of a Harbor Pilot that is in Rhode Island but his price exceeded my budget. The owner said he would think about selling it again in the spring.
Jack
Update: In looking through the old posts I see that this is IslandTracer's boat listed a few pages back.
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Update.....
From: CHLSMARA@aol.com
To: jcannavo@gmail.com
CC: stevemyc@Verizon.net
Sent: 11/14/2011 9:50:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
Subj: Re: Did Marblehead Yacht club ever own a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Launch ?
Good morning Cardinal Joe,
I do not believe that The Marblehead Yacht Club has ever owned a Herreshoff launch.
Perhaps the Corinthian YC of Marblehead, or the Eastern YC of Marblehead may have.
I am relaying your E-Mail to Mr. Steve Karger our Club Manager and un-official Historian, perhaps Steve can help you or steer you in the best direction.
Chuck Mara , Past Commodore, Marblehead Yacht Club
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Here's a couple shots of the Harbor Pilot I just purchased from a boatyard in Guilford, CT. It's a running boat but needs some TLC. If the Hour Meter is accurate, the motor has less than 2000 hours on it. But I want to go through the cooling and fuel systems to make sure all is well and will look at the electrics as well. As far as the rest of the boat is concerned, I'm just going to strip and repaint the bottom and polish up the red gel coat. Hopefully I'l be able to do all this before the next boating season which start a bit early here in South Carolina.
Jack
(couldn't post the images themselves for some reason, so here's the site)
http://www.etagloh.phanfare.com/5356432
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Slighting......
Did Marblehead Yacht club ever own a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Launch ?
CHLSMARA@aol.com --Chuck No but Boston Yacht Club had one West Shore Marine one and Swampscott Y...
Nov 15 (3 days ago)
CHLSMARA@aol.com to me
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Chuck
No but Boston Yacht Club had one, West Shore Marine one
and Swampscott Yacht Club had one up to three or four years ago
Steve K
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Humn...... Slighting of Herreshoff Pilot Series , wonder if they all were Harbor Pilot's , or maybe a Pilot Launch or Fisherman model ?
Boston Yacht Club , MA
West Shore Marine, MA
Swampscott Yacht Club, MA
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Could this Herreshoff Harbor Pilot be one of the mention boats above in Marble Head , Ma. Does anyone recognized this pilot name "USEFUL" or the back ground area ?
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From the foto above ....Its a W-30!
Reply-Jack Holgate jholgate@bellsouth.net to me.....
It's good to know, especially since I just down-loaded and printed the W-30 Manual and Parts List. But why does the tag on the motor still read "Four-91"?
Jack
Reply - jcannavo@gmail.com to Jack
It started out as a four-91 , but was converted to a W-30 for the British Taxi's
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In looking at the foto above, your air cleaner filter is metal , the original filter was a fram paper filter that is no longer produced ..... I searched for months for a replacement filter and couldn't find one , so, I was force to purchase the new metal Westerbeke air filter for $429.00 ..... So, Jack what is the brand name & model # of that metal air filter on your W-30 , so furture owner of a W-30 diesel motor will know and not be sucker into buying that $429.00 from Westerbeke .....
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Original FRAM Air Filter ..
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I looked my air filter over closely and could not find a part number. However in one of the Westerbeke service bulletins that gave instructions for venting the silencer gases to the intake (http://www.westerbeke.com/mdtools/service_bulletins/sb_102.pdf) it listed the air filter as part number 16010. So it appears that a replacement filter might be readily available at such sites as this one.
http://bayshoremarineengines.com/16010westerbekeairfilter.aspx
Jack
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Quoted above :
I looked my air filter over closely and could not find a part number. However in one of the Westerbeke service bulletins that gave instructions for venting the silencer gases to the intake (http://www.westerbeke.com/mdtools/service_bulletins/sb_102.pdf)
Jack - this is the $429.00 metal airscreen/silencer air filter unit - mention above.....
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Joe,
Wow. What a great looking motor, I'm certainly envious.
My hour meter reads 1984 hours, but I don't know how accurate that is or if it's even working. The motor doesn't look too bad. Initially I'm going to pay the most attention to the "bolt ons" and not worry to much about the guts of the motor. I've heard stories of them running quite well for many more than the 2,000 hours mine seems to have.
By the way I hope no one tries to hold you to the $2150 price you have listed for your totally restored Pilot in your South Jersey Craig's List ad. :)
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"Useful" is the Herreshoff Marine Museum's Pilot and launch. The Burgee she's flying is the Herreshoff Burgee (Specifically HGH's I believe). That is Bristol Harbor.
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"Useful" is the Herreshoff Marine Museum's Pilot and launch. The Burgee she's flying is the Herreshoff Burgee (Specifically HGH's I believe). That is Bristol Harbor.
Adam - thank's - she is a good looking Pilot , i believe the Green Hull Pilot's are the rarest !
Also - it looks like it has a cat rudder from the foto , which makes it a 1974 - Do you know the " HULL " # ? ...... and which of the two builders for that year , built that Pilot ......
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I only know of 3 Green Hull Herreshoff Harbor Pilot's - 2 in RI and 1 in Annapolis , MD...
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" Sky King " has a new owner .......
mkelleher
Registered Member
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Just had accepted bid for Sky King. I have been more of a cat boat sailor but now have a pilot boat. Could I contact you from time to time with questions. I won't over do it.
Mark Kelleher
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" Happy Thanksgiving "
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A previous posting from RIGGO ....... I have an HA 18 and currently has no electrical system on board. Any suggestions for battery location, switch panel?.......
Cardinal Joe's Pilot foto below......
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/DSC09801_edited.jpg)
Custom Teak seat/cabnet.....
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC09813_edited-1.jpg)
Inside of custom teak cabnet
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07911_edited.jpg)
Most Pilots have there Batteries stored in the bow hatch area. (http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC09525_edited.jpg)
I've also seen batteries placed in the stern of the Pilot under Cat Seating ....
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC09884_edited.jpg)
(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/8/7/7/5/1877524_7.jpg?1206396838000)
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Getting back to this foto , what you don't see is the 30 amp plug-in shorepower receptacle to the right of the batterty switch/meter units ....
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/DSC09801_edited.jpg)
My Pilot has a " Inverter Unit " > 30 amp to 110 volt box receptacle.......
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/DSC07911_edited.jpg)
Follow the wiring from the above foto > you can see the Red battery swicth wires , then the one smaller black wire to the amp/volt gauge meter unit and to the left you can see the 30 amp yellow cable line going into the Inverter unit (not shown in foto) then if you look at the upper left hand corner of the above foto there is the corner of the 110 volt metal receptacle box. Note..... If a large storm is in the forecast (Hurricane) I may connect a 2 amp battery charger unit , because the Pilot is NOT a self baling boat and needs a bilge pump to remove the rain water...etc,etc.
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Wondering whats under that piece of plywood in the stern of the hull (under the blower motor in foto below );
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Lead Bars....(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/resize/1/50/33/3185033_0_070220111433_18.jpg?f=/1/50/33/3185033_0_070220111433_18.jpg&w=600&h=450&t=1297118013000)
Question ? - WHY the extra weigh to the port side of the Pilot's ? Yes the Starboard side has an 18 gal. fuel tank = about a 126 lbs/diesel or about 108 lbs /unlead gas .....? The engine & batteries are usually centered in the middle of the hull ...... so, why the off set of weigh to the port side ??? Any thoughts on this subject ?????? Anyone !
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I was wondering the same thing. My Pilot has two big bags of cement in the same location.
Jack
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ADAM - your thoughts ?
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Wrong Adam, but I'd guess to offset helm location?
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Sounds about right ...... or it would look like the foto below ; with the weigh of the fuel tank on the Starboard side .....
(http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/cardinaljoe/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/CardinalYachtMarina1771.jpg)
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Found this old sale listing of a Herreshoff Harbor Bay Fisherman Lanuch...... by Dodson Boatyard LLC ,Stonington, CT 06378 So, I contacted them to see if any pic's & hull# were around on this Bay Fisherman that Sold in 2002 .....
Morning Joe, Attached is the only archived information available on the skiff. It was sold prior to my tenure here in brokerage. No photos are available. Good luck. Dann
18 ft 1978 Herreshoff Herreshoff Yacht Club Launch
Year: 1978
Price: USD 18,000
Location: Stonington, CT, USA
Hull Material: Fiberglass
Fuel Type: Diesel
YachtWorld ID: 960526
Condition: Used
Description
All fiberglass construction with solid teak benches and lockers. Lever steering with a practically new (less than 60 hours) freahwater cooled Yanmar diesel installed winter 2000. Fiberglass engine box. Red topsides, white deck. Brown forward dodger and frame. Teak strakes on port side for pot haul out. Bilge pump. Teak swim platform. Teak rubrail. Substantial coaming topped with teak. Tow post. Lifejackets, fenders. Price includes galvanized trailer. Under cover till spring. Easy to view.
Basic Details
Make:Herreshoff
Model:Herreshoff Yacht Club Launch
Length:18 ft
Price:USD 18,000
Year:1978
Condition:Used
Location:Stonington, CT, USA
Hull Material:Fiberglass
Number of Engines:1
Fuel Type:Diesel
Number:950029
Measurements
LOA:18 ft
Power
Number of Engines:1
Dodson Boat Yard LLC
18 ft 1978 Herreshoff Herreshoff Yacht Club Launch
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I am fairly sure, based on that description from Dodson's, that the Camden Maine Yacht Club launch is one of them. See the small photos here: http://www.camdenyachtclub.org/facilities.html
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I do believe that is a Herreshoff Bay Fisherman Pilot Launch from that small foto !
Posted by: rbgarr
« on: Today at 11:17:06 AM »
Man you have a great set of eyes ,to spot that Herreshoff Launch, NICE ........
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If ONLY my eyes were that good! I've sailed out of the Camden club and visit there several times a year, and have ridden the launch regularly for years. She's perfect for that club, the harbor conditions and her duties. They'd seriously consider getting another if anyone knows of one.
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If ONLY my eyes were that good! I've sailed out of the Camden club and visit there several times a year, and have ridden the launch regularly for years. She's perfect for that club, the harbor conditions and her duties. They'd seriously consider getting another if anyone knows of one.
rbgarr - did the Camden Yacht Club Herreshoff Launch have a "Cat Rudder" ? Do you remember if she was diesel powered ..... Do you know the Harbor Master @ Camden Y C - could you find out the Hull # or better yet the VIN # of the Launch......
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The boat was repowered with a new diesel last winter and I'm pretty sure she has the underslung rudder. Check the Camden YC's webpage for contact info re the launch service/steward. I'm pretty sure the boat is all shrinkwrapped for the winter.
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I sent an email yesterday to the harbor master of the Camden Yacht Club , have not recieved a return email as of yet .....
So, is underslung rudder ihe proper name for the Cat Rudder ?
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I'd call a cat rudder one that is mounted on pintles and gudgeons on or aft of the transom while an underslung rudder is one mounted under the aft part of the hull with the rudder post through a stuffing box.
The Yacht Club is closed for the winter and only manned by the club secretary who won't have a clue what you're asking about. I'm also not sure what you mean by the harbor master of the CYC. There's a harbor master for the town of Camden, but he wouldn't know either. You'll have more luck in the spring, say around June 15, when the club reopens.
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rbgarr So, I have a cat rudder on my 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot and the other Pilot's from 1975 to 1985 have the underslung rudder ! Thanks
And i will try contacting them in the spring again ..... Thanks
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I'm Cruising from Ocean City, NJ to Ocean Reef /Key Lardo ,Fla. been running mostly the ICW looking for Herreshoff Harbor Pilot's ...... Nothing !!!!! In Hilton Head @ Harbor Town Marina for the night . This is late in the season for me to head to fla. usually i make the trip before Thanksgiving . its sad to see how many places and marinas that have closed their doors because of this recession !
The ICW traffic is fair and lots of new high bridges but no Herreshoff sighting ,oh well tomorrow is another day ....... Stay Tuned !
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The Christmas boat parade with boats all lit up with lights took place here the other day and there was a Herreshoff Pilot in among the lobsterboats. I saw it about a twenty feet from shore and I'm sure it was one of them. Then it went off into the darkness with a 'mermaid' fanning her tail off the transom under a lighted palm tree to I don't know where.
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Found it! It seems it was in this past June's Windjammer Days Antique Boat Parade here also: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23482606@N05/5692703535/
I'll see if i can track it down and get the numbers....
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Never mind the darn boat - where is the mermaid? ;D
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I was HOPING someone would bite that hook! :D Unfortunately it was too dark for photos, so according to the rules of the Internets... it didn't happen!
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rbgarr......
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5065/5692703535_404389f5b9_z.jpg)
Very nice foto of that Herreshoff Harbor Pilot !!!!!!! Well , I'm docked at the City Docks in Saint Augustine ,fla. and NO slighting of any Herreshoff's Pilots or any other Herreshoff's , cruising the ICW from Hilton Head ,SC to the sunshine state ...... I know these boats are Rare ..... The state of Fla. has Herreshoff Pilot's , i have posted past pic's of these boats .
rbarr - keep up the good work and find some more of these rare vessels .....Thanks :)
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Well, leaving Saint Augustine @ sunrise and cruising down the ICW, I had a lucky feeling today! Could I find that elusive Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ……? The problem with Fla. is there are thousand of canals & lagoons off the ICW, and I could be cruising right pass that sweet rig and not even know it…… As I was coming up to Daytona Beach , my heart started beating faster knowing there are 4 large marina’s on the ICW , I have stayed @ the famous Halifax Harbor Marina , several times in the past ,knowing its one of the biggest marina in the area , I thought my odds were good …. NOPE! So, I continue down the ICW, thinking to myself, Cheez even a blind mouse finds food every once in awhile? As I’m coming up on the town of Melbourne (use to have a 67 X 100ft long stucco green dragon on its point reef, as a land mark in the past years). Remembering my past bloggs there was a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot located in that town, can’t remember the owner name? …. NOPE! Sadden I continue my journey south, until I came upon Vero Beach! Knowing Vero Beach Marina had both dock slips & mooring slips, this could be the place….. With great expectations I enter the marina longing for a sighting, there in the distance of mooring balls was the majestic hull from 1 to 10 a definite “10”, has my eyes start to wander up, Hum... it was a “Herreshoff American “…… Oh well, heading to the world renowned Sailfish Harbor Marina on Singer island….. Stay Tuned !
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Left Palm Beach this morning after breakfast, decided to go the outside route and run a ½ mile off the beach to Miami, connect with Hawk Channel and run down inside the reef to Key Largo….. Zero chance of spotting a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot today! The ocean was like a sheet of glass, took some pics of a huge sailboat leaving Palm Beach Inlet next to me …. Ocean Reef has traffic, lots of Yachts ….. Snow birds are down!
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Sunny an 73 degrees today ! Yesterday was around 80 degrees "Life is Good" ...... but still no sighting of any Herreshoff Harbor Pilots........
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What does someone think would be the smallest kicker/auxiliary outboard motor that a 2200 lb. Harbor Pilot might use for emergency backup propulsion?
Jack
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Waterjack - I'm thinking a 6 hp would work for emergency backup propulsion? :)
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Thanks Joe.
Jack
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I had a 4HP Mercury 4 stroke on mine that did the job.
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(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/4/7/5/3/1475335_4.jpg?1133976443000)
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I'm thinking that a 4 hp would be ok on a America or Scout model , but a Harbor Pilot has a diesel motor & 18 gal. fuel tank ...... 6 hp maybe the better choice for the Pilot series because of the extra weight factor ?
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Joe,
It worked well on my Herreshoff Yacht Club Launch with a Yanmar 3GM30.
Bill
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I had a 4HP Mercury 4 stroke on mine that did the job.
(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd432/jcannavo/375.jpg)
seesell ... i see from the foto above that the motor bracket will clear the option swim platform.
PS> I'm not disagreeing with you about your 4 hp motor, its just a theory of mine about 6 hp vs 4 hp , especially going thru NJ narrow bridges with incoming tide running at 5 to 6 knots do to the Venturi flow effect ! ;D
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Joe,
I went through the Stone Bridge channel at the Tiverton Basin with mine against a 4 knot tide without any issues other than it took a bit longer to do it. If my engine was very unreliable and I planned on useing the outboard frequently then 6HP or even an 8HP 2 stroke would be my choice. For occasional use a 4HP with a high thrust prop does the job for me.
Bill
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Agreed...... I have had both 2 stroke & 4 stroke motors, my 4 hp/ 2 stroke had about the same torque has my 6 hp/ 4 stroke going through bridges ..... But ,for long trips and better fuel comsumption, I'll take the 4 stroke over the 2 stroke ...... :)
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Had my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot listed again on eBay for the 5th time , this is the lowest offer I have had yet ....... The average person has know idea , the $ it takes to totally restore a Pilot !
Oh well, guess I'll be using her again next summer , thank god I don't need the money and i really do love that little boat ! Herreshoff Harbor Pilot - 1974 , Diesel 30 hp and Trailer - Totally Restored ...
Ended: Dec 12, 201114:56:28 PST
Bid history: 23 bids
Current bid: US $9,650.00
Reserve price not met!
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Has been REDUCED in price from $29,000.00 to $25,000.00 an now down to $21,500.00.......
Offers from eBay - $15,500.00 to $13,700.00 to $12,500.00 to $12,000.00 ........But,an Offer of $9,650.00 !!!!
Reserve price not met!
I'm taking my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot " OFF the Market " ! :P
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Arey's Pond built a lovely wood 20' launch based on a catboat hull some years ago. http://www.areyspondboatyard.com/apbylaunch.html
It's elegant, as you can see. The owner used it for a few years and then put it on the market. The last listing I saw for it they were asking at or around $20k and it sold, I imagine, for somewhat less than that. It took more than a season on the market to sell. Even the finest pedigreed, built and maintained boats can go for 40% of their asking prices in this market, if they sell at all. I've seen it.
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:) Agreed :) ......
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Arey's Pond built a lovely wood 20' launch based on a catboat hull some years ago. http://www.areyspondboatyard.com/apbylaunch.html
It's elegant, as you can see. The owner used it for a few years and then put it on the market. The last listing I saw for it they were asking at or around $20k and it sold, I imagine, for somewhat less than that. It took more than a season on the market to sell. Even the finest pedigreed, built and maintained boats can go for 40% of their asking prices in this market, if they sell at all. I've seen it.
(http://www.areyspondboatyard.com/images/launch5_dodger.jpg)
(http://www.areyspondboatyard.com/images/launch20-6.jpg)
Damm.... That Cat Boat has ''EYES''.... i would have purchase that Sweet Looking Rig ... I like it ! 8)
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Hereshoff Harbor Pilot 18 article
Harry Jones...... Attached is an article written for the Chesapeake Bay Magazine about my boat ...
Reply |Harry Jones hwjones5373@verizon.net ......Attached is an article written for the Chesapeake Bay Magazine about my boat which may be of interest. The author did some research on the boat make and included it along with the personalization. You will see a picture of the boat (with my wife and me in it) as well as a couple of interior shots. The article ran in the August 2008 issue.
Thanks for “herding” the Harbor Pilot owners and cataloging the data. I hope this article adds to your endeavor.
Harry Jones
https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=49622c5418&view=att&th=134480a74c8294a3&attid=0.1&disp=safe&zw (https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=49622c5418&view=att&th=134480a74c8294a3&attid=0.1&disp=safe&zw)[/url][/url][/url]
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Hereshoff Harbor Pilot 18 article....." Mimi J "
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=1lXfkSfZqc3Uwp94Mne6ZiCRXmLmiv7tQYiXyKXkQiRQOfmrP8_tkFFdNLXfA&hl=en_US (https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=1lXfkSfZqc3Uwp94Mne6ZiCRXmLmiv7tQYiXyKXkQiRQOfmrP8_tkFFdNLXfA&hl=en_US)
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Hereshoff Harbor Pilot 18 article....." Mimi J "
Mimi J -Hull #10 from Tillot Pearson yard. Date of manufacture is 1973 or 4. No other records in my hands.
Harry Jones
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Link to the article doesn't work for me.
Jack
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Try copy & paste it in the about https://
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=1lXfkSfZqc3Uwp94Mne6ZiCRXmLmiv7tQYiXyKXkQiRQOfmrP8_tkFFdNLXfA&hl=en_US
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No luck for me. You need some kind of Google Documents account to have access to the article. Oh well....
Jack
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Thanks Joe. I enjoyed the read and look forward to duplicating the slow cruising pleasure the Jones have experienced.
Jack
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Me Too...... heads really do turn has my Pilot cruise by @ 6 to 8 kts , one slight problem in taking the Pilot to dinner , once you pull up to a pier to dock , it takes about 30 mins to get off the pilot...... because of the people walking down to ask questions about that little eye turner of a vessel ..... When I'm asked about the Pilot my end statement is " Life is Good in owning a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot " ...... if you have the time to enjoy her with endless hours of Therapy .......... ;D ;D ;)
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Well , we now know that there are 3 Herreshoff Harbor Pilots in Annapolis , 2 red and 1 green hulls ..... still need to find out the hull # of the Green hull Pilot ....
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I posted this before , but i just came across it again .......
North Cove Yacht Club
In 2001 the Club sold the existing launch and replaced it with a Herreshoff Pilot 18 ft. launch.
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North Cove Yacht Club
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********** MERRY CHRISTMAS *************
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Is there a " Hybird " engine that can be installed into a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ? ........
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Do you have a project in mind?
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Maybe......... :-\
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Gelcoat is better ….. more expense to gelcoat my pilot.... it was just under $4000.00
Awgrip is a premium paint job with a hard finish….. to paint a Pilot it’s between $1200.00 to $1500.00… if you hit / rub up against a fuel dock or piling and damage the Awgrip; you have to paint the whole side of the boat.
There is AWGRIP 2000 paint that allows you to spot paint the damage, but its not has good of a gloss paint job as regular Awgrip.
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+++++++ DIESEL vs Unlead Gas ++++++++++
If replacing a motor which is best, for your kind of boating ?
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The One Big Diesel Advantage...... If one is willing to travel at slower speeds, the one great advantage that diesel holds over its gas counterpart is lower fuel consumption, lower fuel cost ? and greater range. If fuel range is a consideration, then diesel wins hands down.
Of course this is entirely dependent on how fast you want to travel; if you want to run at the same speeds as gas power is capable of, then even that advantage fades
By now you should begin to understand why small, light weight diesels are not necessarily a better choice for small boats. That is, of course, unless you just "want" diesels, which a lot of people do, but not necessarily for rational reasons. The argument for gas engines is that they're cheap, efficient, and far less costly to maintain. And they are certainly just as reliable as diesels, all things considered.
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The problems that ethanol in fuel are creating for gasoline engines (both inboard and outboard), fuel lines, filters, tanks, carbs, etc. are introducing uncertainty about how dependable they will be over a season. Unless the fuel is consumed by the engine pretty rapidly, as it would be in commercial duty, things can get ugly and expensive in surprising and frustrating ways.
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The problems that ethanol in fuel are creating for gasoline engines (both inboard and outboard), fuel lines, filters, tanks, carbs, etc. are introducing uncertainty about how dependable they will be over a season. Unless the fuel is consumed by the engine pretty rapidly, as it would be in commercial duty, things can get ugly and expensive in surprising and frustrating ways.
Being in the Marine Service Business - I AGREE with you 100% !
Cardinal Joe
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i will state that if , I had a choice of a new diesel engine vs a rebuilt older diesel, I'll go with the older heavy duty iron cast motor than the newer light weight motors for sale today! Same with the older Starters and Generator/Alternator unit because of the copper wiring and the weight of the older units ....
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I received a phone call on my old eBay 4 sale listing of my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot , which i have removed from all listing website's .....
I told him there are many pictures of my Pilot on " The Herreshoff Registry".......
So, please excuse me , for now posting some updated pic's of my Pilot :)
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Other Pilot's........
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SORRY...... I got crazy posting up Herreshoff Harbor Pilots pictures :) I'm now back on earth........
^^^^^^^^^ HAPPY NEW YEAR ^^^^^^^^^^^^
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I have decided to Relist my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot on Yacht World Website because of the New York Boat Show - January 4 - 8 @ the Javits Center ......
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Re: Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Launch
From: "jcannavo@gmail.com" <info@herreshoffregistry.org>
To: curtsmarina@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 8:23 PM
Subject: Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Launch
Curts - did you ever buy that Herreshoff harbor launch ? If so any Foto's ..... Thanks Cardinal Joe
Curt Blair -Yes I did. Thanks for asking. She rests at the Water Street Hotel in Apalachi...
Reply |Curt Blair curtsmarina@yahoo.com to me
Yes I did. Thanks for asking. She rests at the Water Street Hotel in Apalachicola, Florida where she provides river cruises for our guests. Come by and see her sometime.
Curt Blair
Phone: 850-653-3700
Fax: 850-653-1237
Water Street Hotel - Apalachicola's Luxury Hotel
On the River
329 Water Street
Apalachicola, Fl. 32320
www.waterstreethotel.com (http://www.waterstreethotel.com)
Check out local events at
Franklin County Tourist Development Council
www.anaturalescape.com (http://www.anaturalescape.com)
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cont... Herreshoff Yacht Club Launch ( note the Wooden Handle Shifter )
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Take note of the Wooden Shift Handle on the console...(steering console is on the Port side )......
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Steering on the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot .....
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Bronze Hardware on the Pilot.....
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cont....
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cont....
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Herreshoff Bronze Hardware from ANOTHER boat....
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Motors for a Herreshoff Pilot Series......
Yanmar 3 cylinder 27 HP
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Volvo 2 Cylinder 25 hp
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Yanmar 3 cylinder 30 hp
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Posted earlier on herreshoff 18 forum.
Engine Brand Colors on the following - Atomic 4 | BMW | Bukh | Farymann | Kohler | Palmer | Perkins | Universal | Volvo Penta | Westerbeke |
Diesel
Red = Westerbeke 15 , 25 & 30 hp
Green = Volvo 25 & 30 hp
Silver = Yanmar 30 hp
Blue = Univeral 27 hp
Grey/Silver = BMW 46 hp (not painted)
Green = Perkins 35 & 40 hp
Black = Kohler 25 hp
? = Bukh 20 hp
White = Farymann 30 hp
Dark Gray = Lister-Petter 20 & 33 hp
Silver Blue = Kubota 46 hp
Gas
Unpainted = Atomic 4
Unpainted = Chrysler 80hp
? = Palmer M60
Green = Volvo 4cyl gas engine (25hp)
? = Honda -12hp
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Westerbeke 30 hp
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Gas ?????
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Diesel Engine...... Engine Model: Pisces 27 HP...........
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Chrysler 80HP inboard direct shaft "GAS" engine....
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History of the Universal Diesel Motor
In the early 1970’s sailboat manufacturers began fitting Yanmar diesel auxiliaries instead of the Atomic Four gasoline auxiliary, however Atomic Four sales continued to grow until their peak year of 1975. In 1976, as sales of the Atomic Four started to drop, Universal met the challenge from Yanmar by buying Kubota diesel engines and selling marinized versions, under the name Universal. Atomic Four sales gradually declined as manufacturers increasingly used diesel engines, and manufacturing ceased in 1980, with sales continuing until all units were sold in 1984. The last OEM (original equipment manufacturer) to fit the Atomic Four was Catalina, who used it up until the 1985 Catalina model year. After 1985 Universal sold only diesel marine engines, which were fitted by several OEM, including Catalina.
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Luv my A-4.... Thing runs like a top and is MUCH quieter than similar Diesels....I think it would run on anything...but why waste good scotch. And I can actually work on the thing myself without a degree in mechanical engineering...
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4152/5016422208_4db0da0937.jpg)
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Thanks Adam ..... Nice foto of a Atomic 4 engine :)
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The Model M4-30, also called the Atomic Four diesel, a 52 cu in, 25 hp, 4 cylinder, based on the Kubota Y-850 block, was built from 1988 to 1997. Approximately 470 were sold. The Model M4-30 was offered as a diesel replacement for the original Atomic Four gasoline engine. It was similar to its namesake, since it was a 4 cylinder model weighing slightly less (122 kg / 270 lb as opposed to the original’s 150 kg / 330 lb with reduction drive - the M4-30 was only offered with a reduction drive) and generating slightly less power (18.6 kW / 25 hp at 3,600 rpm as opposed to the original’s 22 kW / 30 hp at 3,500 rpm) with a smaller displacement (850 cc / 52 cu in as opposed to the original’s 1,065 cc / 65 cu in).
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I relisted my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot on eBay under other boats ! Check out my new price :o
Item number: 190632903798
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I'm at the Atlantic City Boat Show this week Feb 1 thru 5th) , will post up next week!
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Questions from other members : Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Lanuch - Diesel Power - Cat Boat Downeaster Hull Design......
Question & Answer...... Answered On eBay Auction
Q: JOE- ITS NOT NOT THE COST INCURRED THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BUT THE COST OF A NEW 1 OFF COPY TO BE BUILT. I WAS QOATED 35K BASE 10 YRS AGO. 2 YRS AGO I FINALLY GOT MINE AFTER 20YRS OF HUNTING,AND I HAVE PUT PROBALY 10K AND STILL SPENDING.STILL HAVE GEL COAT TO GO. YOU CANT PUT D0LLAR SIGNS ON PRIDE OF OWERSHIP Feb-01-12
A: When you are selling something, you need to put a price on it. Pride has little to do with the transaction. Good luck with your Pilot.
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Q: Ive neen watching you attempts to sell this boat on yachtworld, ebay, and on craigslist,,,,i know you put alot of money into this, but that does not mean youll get that money out...your price is getting closer to realistic, but not there yet...if you wish to sell this boat for 15000, pls let me know...im in upstate ny...have 600 feedbacks thx rich Feb-01-12
A: Rich, I have been actively promoting the boat since its completion in 2010. I've been renovating classic American boats for years and, you're right, have invested a considerable amount of money in each to accomplish results which meet my satisfaction. I think you can tell from the pictures, this boat is exceptional. Others, not as nice, have sold in the range of $18,000-$20,000, but the current soft economy has everyone thinking twice before spending. I appreciate your offer and would encourage you to actually come down and see the boat, if its still available, in the spring. I am sure you'd find the trip worthwhile. Joe
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antik_lov, When I look at the pictures, the boat looks different from one to the others?
I have post pictures of the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot in stages of its restoration. Present condition: Totally Restored !.
Does the boat for the auction have a mast, a cockpit window, and the rear seat? YES
What is the total weight including the trailer?
Boat Displacement: 2200 lbs Dry Load plus 23 ft Trailer is around 1200 lbs , I have towed this boat with a vehicle rated at 5000 lbs towing capacity. But to be SAFE i would reference www.tailerboats.com. they have tow capacities and powerboattests.com have total weights as does trailer boats on their tests.- joe2897
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Found a pair of Vintage Brass Teardrop Nav. Lights on eBay for sale $15.95 , anyone restoring a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ?
Item number: 320847378230
Item location: suffolk, VA, United States
Vintage Brass Running Lights teardrop shaped, only have red and white. Dims; 4 1/2" x 1 3/4", paint on gaskets, slight grind (7/8" x 1/16" (about)) on the front of the unpolished one at opening lower lip (see pic), lens lips broken around partial circumferences, will still work by turning these back (aft). No sockets or bulbs, "C" over "W" stamped in the casting on top and inside base.These are heavy, heavy duty, nickel plated at one time. Brass shows nicely (one has been buffed up).
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Brand name " Wilcox Crittenden "
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LOGO of " Wilcox Crittenden "......
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I have posted up 4 sale some Brass & Bronze items on eBay , that could be used in the restoration of a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot .....
1) -Vintage Boat Hardware Large Bow Bronze EYE Plate " Rare
item #190639547710 ( this item can be used on the stern of a Pilot ,for towing i.e. raft ,etc ...)
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Tomorrow I will post up item #190638849660 that is 4 sale on eBay .....
"Solid Brass Mooring Ball Ring" - Real Nice item!
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Brass Boat Pulley - Brand name " Wilcox Crittenden "
eBay item #190638875439
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VINTAGE BOW LINE CHOCK BOAT MARINE DECK HARDWARE " OLD ITEM " Boat Brass & Bronze
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Brass Mermaid
I purchase this Mermaid for the top of the pilot house ...... but never mounted it....
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VINTAGE NAUTICAL LARGE BRASS BOAT DECK T CLEAT - could be used as a transom tow cleat on a Pilot ?
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SOLD - $16.00 on eBay.
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All of the ITEMS listed above have been SOLD , except the "Solid Brass Mooring Ball Ring" is still for sale ..... Cardinal Joe
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Brass Boat flag base 1" I.D. for sale on eBay...... Its tough to find Brass/Bronze items for Herreshoff Harbor Pilots .........
Item condition: Remanufactured
Price: US $30.00
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Price just Reduced from $29000.00 , $25000.00, $21,500 , $19,500 down to $18,995 ...
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I saw your mermaid on EBay and thought to bid on it for my mermaid crazy daughter... but didn't. Hope you got a good price for it.
I'm curious about your trailer. Was it custom made with those adjustable pads and do their posts that extend down below the frame ever 'bottom out ' on dips or uneven sections in the road?
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I saw your mermaid on EBay and thought to bid on it for my mermaid crazy daughter... but didn't. Hope you got a good price for it.
Got Crazy Money for the Mermaid .....Auction Brass Mermaid (190638817591)
Sold for $71.00 plus Shipping cost of $12.99 ...... Go Figure ::)
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I'm curious about your trailer. Was it custom made with those adjustable pads and do their posts that extend down below the frame ever 'bottom out ' on dips or uneven sections in the road?
Yes , the trailer is Custom for The Pilot ....I’ve never had an issue with the support arm poles hitting the surface while towing the Pilot …… The pictures are more deceiving than they look, but I will go down to the shore this coming weekend to measure the clearance! If it’s an issue, it’s an easy fix with a pipe cutter unit ….. Thanks for bring it to my attention! Cardinal Joe
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Is it a standard trailer with centerline rollers that you had the pipe/pads welded onto? How much does your boat weigh?
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YUP........ Its a 23ft Custom Tilt Trailer for an 18 ft boat - Displacement: 2200 lbs Dry Load then add 18 gallons of Diesel fuel & two Batteries = ?
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Well , had my staff go over an check out the pilot trailer ? They removed 5 inches off of each pole stands :o
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Volvo 48 hp Diesel - wonder if it would fit into a Pilot ? I remember that " Sky King " had a BMW 47 hp ! Humm....
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Had a very nice couple Bob & Rachel from Frederick,Maryland came an look at my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot today . They seem impressed with the condition and restoration of the Pilot , but not so much with the appearance of the custom trailer . The trailer may not have the greatest look to it , but is definitely road worthy/ready.... to make any trip anywhere ! I think if they were to sell the used custom 23 ft dual axle tilt trailer with all the work / parts that was done to it ....... it should sell for between $1000.00 to $ 1500.00.
New Paint Job for the trailer ??????
Anyone know the cost of a new 18 foot single axle bunk trailer ( 2500 GWR load) for a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ?
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I'm considering replacing the custom 23 ft trailer with a 19 ft single axle bunk trailer ?
Pro's & Con's with each style trailers ??????
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Change of plans - I now am thinking of replacing the custom (home made) 23 ft trailer that is presently under the Pilot , with my totally rebuild 19 ft dual axles roller trailer that is under my 19 ft mako CC ..... i need to see what accommodation need to be made for the sailboat shape hull of the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ?
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Buddy had an old Shamrock 20 in the 80's - all one needed to do was raise up the roller beds and forget using the rear roller...
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The other dual axle 19 ft trailer that has been total rebuilt included 4 new tires & rims along with two mounted spare tires ......
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New Completely Rebuild Dual Axle Trailer for the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot with Custom Air Bellows Shocks......
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I’m going to miss his sweet 19 ft dual axle galvanized tilt trailer that was under my Mako 19 ft CC the following parts either were replaced with new or serviced >
New Parts:
4 – New tires – (2011)
4 – New rims – (2011)
4- New buddy bearing – (2011)
4 new Monroe shock (2010)
2 new custom air bellows shocks $ 800.00 – (2012)
2 new roller supports bar (2010)
2 new waterproof lights and wiring with connection adapter plug (2010)
1 new 12in main roller (2010)
1 new heavy duty double wheeled adjustable stand (2012)
2 new spare tire brackets with 2 used spare tires (2011)
2 new guide poles (2012)
1 new handle cable unit (2010)
Rebuild Parts:
4 – Axles repacked with new bearing
All main rollers > removed and repacked
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God its like pulling teeth to get my herreshoff harbor pilot put onto the new dual axle tilt trailer! I guess with a skeleton staff for the winter months thats what i get :o
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Squadron Yachts Herreshoff Harbor Pilot
Shop for Squadron Yachts boat parts and accessories
The top states that sell the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot are: Ohio, New Jersey, Virginia, Minnesota, Delaware, North Carolina, California, South Carolina, Tennessee, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Alabama, Texas, Illinois, Wisconsin, New York, Georgia, Washington and Florida.
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Nowak And Williams Co Herreshoff Harbor Pilot
Shop for Nowak And Williams Co boat parts and accessories
The top states that sell the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot are: California, Michigan, Missouri, Wisconsin, Georgia, Tennessee, Ohio, New York, Florida, Delaware, Texas, North Carolina, Virginia, New Jersey, Washington, Illinois, South Carolina, Minnesota, Alabama and Louisiana.
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The top states that sell the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot are ????
What happen to - RI , Mass ,Conn and Maine......... ??????
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Those states don't sell 'em. They keep 'em....
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Those states don't sell 'em. They keep 'em....
NICE ....... ;D
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With 20 states listed you have to wonder when the list was started and how long it took to sell at least 20 Harbor Pilots. :)
Jack
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This might be of intrest.....
http://providence.craigslist.org/boa/2925372326.html
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This might be of intrest.....
http://providence.craigslist.org/boa/2925372326.html
Thanks Adam for finding its Listing !
Herreshoff Yacht Club Launch - $14000 (Somerset)
Herreshoff Yacht Club Launch. Older restoration in excellent condition.Fiberglas and teak construction by Squadron Yachts. Yanmar diesel, matching bow dodger, console cover, wheel cover and bimini top. Winter cover, VHF radio, dual batteries with swithch. Cusions and bolsters like new. Fenders & dock lines. Trailer available for $1500.00 additional. Email listing with phone # all others will be deleated.
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Bought my Pilot in Connecticut in September.
Jack
(http://www.etagloh.phanfare.com/5356432)
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With 20 states listed you have to wonder when the list was started and how long it took to sell at least 20 Harbor Pilots. :)
Jack
Good Point !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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Well the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot is now on the Mako 19 Trailer had to make some adjustments because of shape of the downeast cat hull ....
First foto without adjustments
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I thought I had found a good home for my 40 year old “ Herreshoff Harbor Pilot “, summers in Annapolis, MD and winters in Fla., but the deal fell through at the last moment nothing to do with the Pilot. The buyer decided not to retire and continue working, and had no time to use the boat. Part of me was Sad but another part of me was Happy! Oh, well the good old girl got a better trailer under her now and that should make her happy ….. ;D
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fitzgerld106@comcast.net info@herreshoffregistry.org via p3slh017.shr.phx3.secureserver.net to me
show details Mar 30 (11 days ago)
New here and don't know if this will go thru or how I might get an answer.
Saw an 18 with NJ reg. lissted last night with a lot of pictures of it. I think it may have been yours. Went home and on a different computer tried to find it again to show someone else. GONE? Can't find it anywhere.
Any info on that boat?
thanks
Walt Not very good with computers.
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By changing out the old 23ft dual axle trailer with the restored 19 ft dual axle trailer , now this boat can be towed with a small suv or a mini van with a v6 engine .......
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Herreshoff Harbor Pilot
From: YachtWorld Lead<leads@yachtworld.com>
Date: Fri, October 14, 2011 10:34 pm
Greg West
Subject: Herreshoff Harbor Pilot
Comments:
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We live in Florida and are interested in the boat. One question: what is the
headroom in the pilot house? (We are interested in having protection from the
sun in the cockpit and wonder what headroom we would have if we had canvus at
the same heighth as the pilothouse when under way.) Also, is the boat out of
the water or kept in a slip? Thank you.
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Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 11:37 AM
To: Greg West
Cc: jcannavo@gmail.com
Subject: RE: [FWD: Herreshoff Harbor Pilot]
Comments:
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We live in Florida and are interested in the boat. Nice One question: what is the
headroom in the pilot house? about 5 ft. (We are interested in having protection from the
sun in the cockpit and wonder what headroom we would have if we had canvus at
the same heighth as the pilothouse when under way.) Not going to work , I'll send you foto's of two other Pilot's one with a fold down Bimni Canvas top and the other with a permanent top !Also, is the boat out of
the water or kept in a slip? I launch it, as i use it mostly on weekends , I did have it in the water for about two weeks in the month of Aug. of this year ! Thank you. look up my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot on http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/
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From: joec@cjamyachtsales.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:09 PM
To: Greg West
Subject: Herreshoff Harbor Pilot with a updated 19 ft dual axle trailer .
From $29,000 down to $18,995 ! Check it out on The Herreshoff Registry . Com - New updated Pictures of my Pilot !
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From: Greg West
To: 'joec@cjamyachtsales.com'
Subject: RE: Herreshoff Harbor Pilot with a updated 19 ft dual axle trailer .
Sent: Apr 11, 2012 2:43 PM
Thanks, Joe, but we wound up buying a Handy Billy 21 for the little extra speed. Best of luck selling your boat. It is a good looking boat.
Greg West
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The HB is a beauty - Originally a William Hand design - Guy up in Canada I believe designed and builds the HB21. There was a story not long ago in Wooden Boat.
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Yup ... the guy up in Canada is Harry Bryan. Great work!
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HB 21 - plywood boat ? or FG over wood ? Great looking hull !
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The HB 21 in the photo was built by Geoff Kerr of Two Daughters Boatworks in Vermont: http://www.offcenterharbor.com/geoff-kerr/
A fiberglass mold for the HB 21 is for sale at Southport Island Marine in Southport, Maine: http://www.southportislandmarine.com/ordereze/1000/Page.aspx
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Subject:yacht world traffic report
From: <wayne@cjamyachtsales.com>
Date: Thu, April 12, 2012 9:26 am
To: "Joe Cannavo" <JoeC@CJamYachtSales.com>
Joe, you made number two on the all time list of activity on Yacht World with your Herreshoff Harbor Pilot .
Sincerely,
Wayne Fletcher
C-Jam Yacht Sales
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Yacht World Traffic Report on boats listed for sale ......
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In looking at the YW Report above > my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot came in #1 on Yacht world with 1845 views and #2 on Boats.com with 264 views > total views = 2109 views !
Hmmm..... So, i have the most famous " Herreshoff Harbor Pilot'' in the world !
Yup... that YW report and a $1.25 will still buy me a cup of coffee , go figure :o
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Does anyone have suggestion in marketing my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ?
Its been on YW & Boat.com X 2 years
Its been on eBay X 10 listing
Its been on Craigs List X 15 listing
One Sailboat Mag. X 1 listing
3 Boat/Fishing Forums X 2 Years !!!!!!!
Herreshoff Registry X ?????
Price started @ $29,995 > $25,995 > $21,995 > $19,995 down to $18,995 :-[
What can I do next to market this Pilot ???????
Invested over $25,000 ..... So, at $18,995 > its a Real Bargain ! Turn key Boat ..... ???????
Where are you going to find a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot in this condition 4 Sale !
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I use to have a saying......
HURRY ON IN! BECAUSE THE BOAT YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT PURCHASING TODAY, MIGHT BE SOMEONE ELSE'S TOMORROW!
I now am going to retire my saying.....
My new saying is ..... " What Ever '' ::)
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This won't sound kind, but I think the Herreshoff name attached to the catboats, sloops, Scouts and Harbor Pilots is overly emphasized. Halsey Herreshoff designed it, of course, and it may be related to an earlier Herreshoff half model but it's essentially a catboat hull in different arrangements. Marshall Marine pretty much dominates the market in the line of small catboats. The Pilot is a yet more specialized boat and therefore in an even thinner market. But your boat is well restored and is just waiting for someone who wans an open harbor cruiser of the type.
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Yea ..... ;) The only reason my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot was the # 1 boat viewed on Yacht World is because of the " Herreshoff " name ....... That being said the Pilot is still a cool little boat that turns heads, everywhere she cruises.
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Here's another...
http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/bod/2970305321.html
"Sky King"
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Thanks ......Adam
I'm going to post up the listing before its deleted !
This is a VERY RARE FIND! This Nauset launch is a Hershoff design and is very hard to find. this boat is perfectly set up, with a wide open cockpit area and horseshoe style transom seating. Comes with a bimini top as well. It is a full inboard, powered by a B.M.W. 45 HP Diesel, with 855 hrs. The cabin has ample space for storage and sleeping. Quite the unusual boat and it is easy enough to trailer! Would be great boat for Boston area and the Cape! HERE IS YOUR CHANCE!! $14,500 Call for more information Tel# 508 525 2710.
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" Sky King " - 1985 Nauset Pilot is 4 Sale ......
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I think that Pilot was just sold (without a trailer) at the Massachusetts Maritime Institute auction. I looked into trying to buy it last year but it had already been donated to the Institute. Must be a re-sell. Looks pretty good.
Jack
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Jack > that's Correct , it was " Sky King "..... The Pilot looks a little clean up (wood trim), since the last foto i have of her ...... What do you think she sold for at the auction ?
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The Academy had listed a dollar figure beside the description of each boat up for auction but I'm not sure if they were value indicators or related to minimum bids. Anyway, Sky King's number was $14,000. I didn't bid on her because there was no trailer with the boat. So I have no idea what she went for.
Luckily I stumbled across my Pilot which was a great deal less.
I agree on the clean-up you mentioned, The boat looks a lot better than the previous pictures I had seen.
Jack
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In looking at the above pictures , I don"t believe " Sky King " has a Mast or Boom that comes with the sale of the boat .
Older picture of Sky King before she was dontated to MMA.
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Cool Partial Restoration Video of a Herreshoff Eagle _ "DIVA"....
http://vimeo.com/3340308 (http://vimeo.com/3340308)
The Eagle hulls came from the same mold of Herreshoff America catboat, but the rig is very different, having an effective headsail and optional topsail that enhanced performance in light air conditions.
Diva was built in the 1974 by Nowak & Williams of Bristol, Rhode Island. Now Diva is sailing in Italy, in Bari. We have stripped the deck and painted it and cockpit sole in beige and the cabin trunk and cockpit surround in white. We have removed and polished all the bronze hardware.
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Joe,
After watching the Diva restoration video I got to wondering if the owner of the sailboat coated the brass fittings with something after restoring them to such brilliance. What did you do on your Pilot?
Jack
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I used 3M™ Emery Polishing Paper , they looked great until i put the Pilot in the water last Aug. for two weeks. They now have that patina look again ,but without the green color. One of the reasons i clean up the bronze hardware was the previous owner of my pliot had years of paint brush spots on all the cleats from painting the topside.
If you coat them with varnish paint , it will only wear off with use .
If you polish them with car wax , it would last a little longer ,but you first have to clean them with Emery polishing Paper.
My cleats should clean right up with just some bronze polish cleaner ....
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Sky King > BMW 47 hp Diesel and shaft(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd432/jcannavo/IMG_3713.jpg)
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Bimini top ....also notice the pair of custom hatches installed into the Cat Bench Seating
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Cruising Foto's of the Herreshoff 18' Hull ......
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I have a new office location & a new seasonal slip for my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot , she will be in the water for the 2012 season. Pictures to follow .......
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View from my new office - land to the left of this inlet picture is Longport,NJ ...land to the right of the inlet is Ocean City , NJ .... and the Inlet is Great Egg Inlet which is 8 miles South of Atlantic City, NJ
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This is Seaview Harbor Marina - 390+ slips .....
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The Marina was built in the Great Egg Inlet ..... The original bulk head sea wall collapsed 2 X when the marina was first built in 1978 , so the Army Corp of Eng, was called in ,too save the # 3 new bulk head sea wall ..... the Corp. had the concrete from the Old Oceanfront Atlantic City Hotels that were tore down/demolished for the AC Casinos , dumped in front of the bulk head sea wall ,creating two sea walls and it worked !
The Ocean City / Longport Bridge is in the back ground.
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My friend Tom called today, he owns a 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot > Hull # ? , Green Hull with Cat Rudder in Melbourne, Fla. He purchased this Pilot with a Chrysler marine gas engine 80 hp that was seized, so he replaced it with a Westerbeke 30 hp diesel. He also customized the Pilots Windows by adding “Hinges “ with window hardware to allow the four Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Windows to open......... YES > I asked for pictures !!!!!!!
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I spent a night at the fuel dock there on the way south last fall. Don't remember the name of the attendant, but he made a good restaurant recommendation...
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I was wondering if Pilot owners on this forum with Westerbeke motors in their boats are using heavy duty/extended life anti-freeze in their engines. If so what brand.
Jack
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I was wondering if Pilot owners on this forum with Westerbeke motors in their boats are using heavy duty/extended life anti-freeze in their engines. If so what brand.
Jack
I'll check the brand name tomorrow!
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I spent a night at the fuel dock there on the way south last fall. Don't remember the name of the attendant, but he made a good restaurant recommendation...
Hooper is his name ! Yea its a great Marina , I've had a slip here since 1988 ,i use to keep the bigger boat on B dock ! Sold> Cardinal Yacht Sales Marina on Feb. 1 ,2011 and agreed to stay on for two years! Last year i trained a new GM for the Marina . It has a new name " C JAM Yacht Sales Marina " the new owner has never been in the Marina Business. My new email is Joec@cjamyachtsales.com or jcannavo@gmail.com
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I was wondering if Pilot owners on this forum with Westerbeke motors in their boats are using heavy duty/extended life anti-freeze in their engines. If so what brand.
Jack
On newer Diesel engine i use either Fleet Guard by Cummins or CAT Extend Life by Caterpillar ...... Gas Engines - i use Shell Extended Life ..... It should be an Orange Color Anti-freeze.....
But, my Westerbeke 30 hp i use ONLY the GREEN Color " Prestone Anti-freeze/Coolant " because of its age !
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Your gett'n slow Joe....New Pilot for you.... 8)
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/Squadron-Yachts-Herreshoff-Harbor-pilot-2474361/Milwaukee/WI/United-States (http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/Squadron-Yachts-Herreshoff-Harbor-pilot-2474361/Milwaukee/WI/United-States)
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Adam > your right , being semi-retired I'm slowing down ...... I'm going to post up these photo's before the boat listing comes down ....... Thanks Cardinal Joe
1981 Squadron Yacht - Herreshoff Harbor Pilot with " OPEN " Cabin .....
Rarely do these desirable little Herreshoff Harbor Pilots ever hit the market. This boat is in good shape and is powered by a 2 cylinder Yanmar diesel engine, she is equipped with a Triad highway trailer. To our knowledge, she is the only Herreshoff Pilot that has been in freshwater her entire life. A real character boat, she is a delightful bay, lakes and river cruiser.
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I contacted the listing broker to see if he could obtain some History of this Pilot , Hull # and if the Custom OPEN Cabin was done at the factory ?
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INK111
9:41 AM (4 hours ago)
to me
Hi Joe;
Thanks for your e mail.
I believe the open cabin was done at the factory, it's a nice configuration.. I believe she is hull number 118 or 18
I need to find her a good home if you know of anyone.
On another subject how many Herreshoff 37' meadow larks and 55' Marco -polo's are in the US ?, and location & owners ?
Thanks
Eric
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Quoted >I believe she is hull number 118 or 18……… Humm……. I’m troubled over the hull# 118 0r 18 ……. My Squadron Yacht Herreshoff Harbor Pilot is a 1974 > hull# 63 , and this is a 1981 Squadron Yacht Herreshoff Harbor Pilot without the Cat Rudder, so it possibility Hull # 118 ???? , but then Nauset Marine built Sky King which is a 1985 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Hull #115 …..
Which leads back to a previous question I posted a while back > what was Nowak & Williams yard in Bristol, Rhode Island last Pilot Hull #? And where did Squadron Yachts in Bristol, RI start where first pilot Hull #? And Nauset Marine in Orleans, MA started either at hull # 101 or 115 ?
I think my Pilot may have been started by Nowak & Williams Yard and finished by Squadron Yachts, > Reason, I have both Bronze Metal plates from both Builders on my 1974 Pilot hull# 63 and we now know that only 1974 built pilots had the Cat Rudder, in 1975 they where built without the Cat Rudder and replaced with the standard under hull prop protected keel/rudder connection. But my Squadron Yacht title states it a 1975 model year , so could my Hull # 63 be the switch over boat , from Nowak & Williams to Squadron Yachts , so, far I have not come across a duplicate hull # between Nowak & Williams and Squadron Yachts in my data base of Herreshoff Harbor Pilots …..
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Joseph Cannavo
3:06 PM (0 minutes ago)
to INK111
Thanks , for the quick response to my questions on the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ! I'm looking into your quesions on the Herreshoff 37' meadow larks and 55' Marco -polo's ? I have another couple of questions on the 1981 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot > what is the VIN# on the hull or title ? I'm having a problem with the Hull # 118 or 18 has the correct hull # of this boat , and do you know the original Color of its Hull > White ,Red or Green ? Thanks Again , Cardinal Joe
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I guess that one has already sold since it's no longer listed at Yachy World.
Jack
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I would have like to add it to my fleet of boats ...... Only in Fresh Water ? Where are you going to find another fresh water pilot ......
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Squadron Yachts Inc Boat Manufacturer in Bristol
Key Facts
Company Name
Company Name Squadron Yachts Inc
Current status of company
Company Status Out of Business
Date In Business 11/16/1977
Date Out of Business 12/1/1982 Boats Specialized in and Services Provided
Products Sailboats- (with or without engine) Catamarans- Trimarans
Manufacturer Identification Code XUH
Contact Information
Contact Name Bigelow, H J
Phone (401) 253-3300
Address 23 Broad Common Rd
City Bristol
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I guess that one has already sold since it's no longer listed at Yachy World.
Jack
UPDATE on the 1981 Squadron Herreshoff Harbor Pilot > It was NOT SOLD , owner decided to keep the Pilot for himself and took it off the market ........
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Yanmar - 13 hp Diesel 2 cyl. Engine .......
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An unexpected family situation forces me to put the Harbor Pilot I purchased in October up for sale. It's not as nice as the $8000 one we've been looking at photos of but it comes with a trailer and other goodies.
For Sale - 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot - located in Hartsville, SC
Photos: http://www.etagloh.phanfare.com/5356432
This an 18 foot fiberglass motor vessel with a Westerbeke diesel and a small cabin. The boat is based on the Halsey Herreshoff “America" hull from which at least 6 different boats were built - the "America" Catboat, the "Eagle" sloop, the cat ketch "Scout", the "Launch", the "Bay Fisherman" and the small tug/pilot boat "Harbor Pilot"
Length is18.2 ft , Beam 8 ft , Draft 1' 10'' , Weight 2200 lbs
The boat has a 1974 Westerbeke 25 Hp, 4 cyl., fresh water cooled diesel with approximately 1700 hrs. It has a 2:1 reduction and an 18 gal. steel fuel tank.
It does 8 knots cruise and 12 knots max. and burns 0.5 g/p/h at cruise.
The boat, which has a full keel for stability and prop/rudder protection for shallow water cruising, is also well suited for offshore cruising and/or fishing. It comes with a bimini top for comfort in either situation.
Constructed by skilled craftsmen at the renowned Nowak & Williams yard in Bristol, Rhode Island, it has a mast and boom, stabilizing sail, bronze hardware and a wooden “swim platform.” There is also an auxiliary motor mount and lift installed on the transom.
The boat was last in the water in the fall of 2011 when it was removed for the season and winterized.
The boat comes with a single axle trailer with new forward, center and rear keel rollers, new tires, new wheel bearings and seals, new lights and wiring, a new jackstand, and a new Warn 3700 electric winch with wireless remote.
The boat was recently towed from Connecticut to South Carolina without difficulty. The driver said it “towed like a dream.”
Boat and trailer - $8000
Six HP rebuilt two stroke, long shaft, Johnson/Evenrude outboard auxiliary motor on “roller stand” - $500
Engine spares:
4 New Glow plugs - $50
New Lift pump - $50
Rebuilt fuel injector pump - $500
New 6 gang electric rocker panel and 3 new Westerbeke gauges - $150
Used sea water pump with 3 new impellers - - $100
Entire package - $9000
Contact me at:
jholgate@bellsouth.net
or 843-8610667 9 am to 5 pm
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WaterJack - Sorry to heard that you have to sell your Herreshoff Harbor Pilot. Your price of $ 9,000.00 is a very fair price , considering that my Pilot is selling for $18,995.00.
She should go quick at that Price , Good Luck with your sale.
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Actually the boat and trailer are only $8000. The other goodies push it up to $9000.
But I hope I'm able to see it go to a good home fairly quickly. I really love the little boat.
Jack
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I don't know the Pilot builder ? , but it was bulit in MA. It a Fiberglass Hull with a small diesel engine an was on sale on eBay .....
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My friend Tom called today, he owns a 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot > Hull # ? , Green Hull with Cat Rudder in Melbourne, Fla. He purchased this Pilot with a Chrysler marine gas engine 80 hp that was seized, so he replaced it with a Westerbeke 30 hp diesel. He also customized the Pilots Windows by adding “Hinges “ with window hardware to allow the four Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Windows to open......... YES > I asked for pictures !!!!!!!
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Joe - I do not believe that one above is a Harbor pilot - unless that hull was highly modified - which I doubt.
"I don't know the Pilot builder ? , but it was bulit in MA. It a Fiberglass Hull with a small diesel engine an was on sale on eBay ....."
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Joe - I do not believe that one above is a Harbor pilot - unless that hull was highly modified - which I doubt.
"I don't know the Pilot builder ? , but it was bulit in MA. It a Fiberglass Hull with a small diesel engine an was on sale on eBay ....."
Adam - Agreed , its definitely not a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot , but its a Pilot House small tug , wondering if anyone knows the builder of this boat ,built in MA. On another note , does anyone know what the metal object is in front of that pilot house mystery tug boat , could it be a water pump for a fire hose or is it a Anchor Winch ? (foto below ).
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Back to Tom's - Herreshoff Harbor Pilot , I notice that only the front two pilot house windows open , not all 4 as i stated above .....
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Its a capstan winch - and a pretty heavy duty one at that...
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"...wondering if anyone knows the builder of this boat ,built in MA."
22' TUG - CUSTOM BUILD IN 1966 BY C. POWERS, NEWBURYPORT, MA
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Adam - Thanks ....... Great Infor. :)
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more of Tom's Pilot ......
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Well look e here Tom's VIN # to his Herreshoff Harbor Pilot .....
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So, from the above VIN # of Tom's Pilot ......
TSPHP0450674 = Nowak & Williams Yard , HULL # 45 , MONTH JUNE , YEAR 1974 .......
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So, what i have noticed about Tom's Pilot is , it has the Original Bronze Anchor Light Hardware > which is very hard to find on these Pilot's .Two Front Custom Pop-Out Windows , A nice Pin-Stripe in the White boot Stripe and its a Green Color Hull which i believe to be the rarest of the color hulls pilots.
White Hull Pilots are the most common color hulls , then Red Hulls followed by Green Hulls .......
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This is Tom's Pilot - original gas engine 80 hp , which was later replaced with a Westerbeke 30 hp diesel motor , out of a 1980 era 27 ft Sailboat .
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[quote author=Cardinal Joe
Quoted >
Which leads back to a previous question I posted a while back > what was Nowak & Williams yard in Bristol, Rhode Island last Pilot Hull #? And where did Squadron Yachts in Bristol, RI start where first pilot Hull #? And Nauset Marine in Orleans, MA started either at hull # 101 or 115 ?
I think my Pilot may have been started by Nowak & Williams Yard and finished by Squadron Yachts, > Reason, I have both Bronze Metal plates from both Builders on my 1974 Pilot hull# 63 and we now know that only 1974 built pilots had the Cat Rudder, in 1975 they where built without the Cat Rudder and replaced with the standard under hull prop protected keel/rudder connection. But my Squadron Yacht title states it a 1975 model year , so could my Hull # 63 be the switch over boat , from Nowak & Williams to Squadron Yachts , so, far I have not come across a duplicate hull # between Nowak & Williams and Squadron Yachts in my data base of Herreshoff Harbor Pilots …..
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I want to BARTER Trade my 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ... car , truck , SUV , Whatever, etc ,etc ..... I'll do a trade plus money or trade and money ..... bring it on !
18' Herreshoff Harbor Pilot 1974 US$ 18,995.00
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Well, I watch that new TV show " Barter Kings " and it looked like a good idea , to Barter my " Herreshoff Harbor Pilot "..... But , maybe not ? ..... jcannavo@gmail.com (http://jcannavo@gmail.com)
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A gentleman from Illinois, outside of Chicago, call today about my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot to see if it’s still for sale. He called last Summer and had some interest in the Pilot , seem his father had a 1974 Red Hull Herreshoff Harbor Pilot on the West Coast of Fla. and my Pilot bring back good memories of him & his father out on the Pilot ! This is the kinda boater I’m looking for; he will give my Pilot a good home …..
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My Harbor Pilot has sold and has gone to a beautiful Minnesota lake.
Jack
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My Harbor Pilot has sold and has gone to a beautiful Minnesota lake.
Jack
Thats GREAT !!!!!!!!! Does the new owner know about The Herreshoff Registry Website ?
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Yep. I was sure to pass on the info.
Jack
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Jack > Thanks :) ...... Hope you stay aboard with the family here @ The Herreshoff Registry .... Cardinal Joe
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I contacted the pervious owner of my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot , hull#63 to see if i could obtain more history of my Pilot....
1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot
Joseph Cannavo Jun 15 (1 day ago)
Jim & Margie - cbscuba2001@msn.com
Jim & Margie - I purchased your Herreshoff Harbor Pilot and did a
Completely Restoration on her ! I now have her up for sale , and a
buyer from Illinois , has asked me the history of this Herreshoff
Pilot . His father had a red hull 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot in the
west coast of fla. back in the 70's , of couse he is wondering if this
could be his father's old pilot ? Do you know any history of former
owners or port of calls of your old pilot ? Thanks Joe - 215 416 5276
cell or jcannavo@gmail.com
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jim showell cbscuba2001@msn.com
Jun 16 (2 days ago)
to me
Joe - Thanks for the e-mail. Glad to hear your restoration job went well.
We actually have no knowledge of the history of the boat. If you have a
picture we would be interested in seeing it, or if it is still in the area we will
stop and take a look. Good luck with your sale. Jim & Margie
> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 19:18:28 -0400
> Subject: 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot
> From: jcannavo@gmail.com
> To: cbscuba2001@msn.com
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I accidentally found out the previous owners of my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot > today.
I ran into the owner of that small boat yard in Egg Harbor Township, NJ (Bart Dickerson Marine > were I discovered the white hull Herreshoff Scout with No rudder or mast – turn out it belongs to a race horse jockey who purchased it new back in the early 70’s and still owns it today (rudder has rotted away, need new rudder, owner has the mast & old sails..
Anyway back to Bart Dickerson…. when I was asking questions about the old Herreshoff Scout in his yard, I also mention that I own a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot. Bart asked if it was a red hull pilot named “Little Toot “back in the day. I remember sanding the transom to prepare the hull for a new Gelcoat hull, and I could see the name “Little Toot" on the hull.
Turns out my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot was purchased new back in 1974/1975 by a gentleman named Mr. Nidinger of Ocean City, NJ 08226 who had it docked behind his bay view home 7 St. Bay Ave in OC, NJ – he is deceased. But he sold my Pilot back in the late 70’s to Halliday-Leonard Construction/Builders Inc. who build Custom Single Water Front Homes in Ocean City, NJ….. Little Toot was used has a “Work Boat” for Bulk Head / Piling / Dock construction and Bart Dickerson operated Little Toot for years working for the Halliday family – it was docked on Bay Ave behind Mr. Holden Hummel’s house > who I personally know from the Marina Business and have Winter Stored his 50 ft Hattheras up on land at Cardinal over the last 15 years. I’m checking to see if John & Margie Showell were the third owners or the fourth of my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot …….. WOW !!!!!!!!!!
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Man that thing must fly with twin 225's on it !!
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Man that thing must fly with twin 225's on it !!
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HA! ha! - That's a Proline 32 Express that I sold New a few years ago ...... ;D
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Had a Capt. from Fla. call today about, turning my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot into a “Water Taxi Service / Cruising Tours Business!!!!!! So, I’m going to post up some previous photos of other Herreshoff 18 boats ….
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Re: Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Launch
From: "jcannavo@gmail.com" <info@herreshoffregistry.org>
To: curtsmarina@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 8:23 PM
Subject: Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Launch
Curts - did you ever buy that Herreshoff harbor launch ? If so any Foto's ..... Thanks Cardinal Joe
Curt Blair -Yes I did. Thanks for asking. She rests at the Water Street Hotel in Apalachi...
Reply |Curt Blair curtsmarina@yahoo.com to me
Yes I did. Thanks for asking. She rests at the Water Street Hotel in Apalachicola, Florida where she provides river cruises for our guests. Come by and see her sometime.
Curt Blair
Phone: 850-653-3700
Fax: 850-653-1237
Water Street Hotel - Apalachicola's Luxury Hotel
On the River
329 Water Street
Apalachicola, Fl. 32320
www.waterstreethotel.com
Check out local events at
Franklin County Tourist Development Council
www.anaturalescape.com
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I'm looking to Barter my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot for a "Loaded" Black 2006 SLK 55 with a retractable roof and only 2300 original miles on her...... plus $16,000.00 cash ...... The car is worth $50 K plus ...... The owner wants my Pilot and $ 30K ......hmmmmm..... He is thinking about my offer ...... Hell where only $14 K apart ....... But, not really , nobody paids full retail today for a boat or car , so if the SLK 55 is worth in the low 50's full retail and my pilot full Retail was $29,995.00 ($25,000.00 invested) and now Wholesale Price is $18,995.00 , then $35,000.00 wholesale price is in the ballpark ....... I use to own a couple of Pre-Owned Car Lots back in the day ......... Both the Pilot & SLK are both to old to obtain a bank loan ...... Boats go back to 1980 and car go back only 5 years..... if your going purchase an 2006 SLK 55 you should be able to write a check for the car or you shouldn't own a SLK 55 > just my 2 cents ....... ::)
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Looks like we may have a deal on my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot........ A verbal agreement over the phone was agreed upon with certain stipulations set in place pending the Sale......I will post up " Sale Pending " once I'm given a deposit on her and a Purchase Agreement is signed...... If all goes well , the Pilot will be staying in New Jersey ...... and I can visit her on occasions ! :) :) :)
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Harbor Pilot
Colin Guheen ..... Hi Joe, I was reading the Herreshoff threads and come across you contact info...
Jun 24 (4 days ago)
Colin Guheen ......colin.guheen@gmail.com
Jun 24 (4 days ago)
to me
Hi Joe,
I was reading the Herreshoff threads and come across you contact
information. Just wanted to check in and see what boats is any do you
have for sale currently?
Best,
Colin Guheen
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On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Joseph Cannavo <jcannavo@gmail.com> wrote:
...................... Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ......................>
What are the cruising/max speeds like? ......... 6 to 8 knots Cruising
> speed & 12 knots Max. Speed and at 6 knots it burns 1 gallon of
> diesel fuel per hour !>
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Colin Guheen <colin.guheen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 24, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Joseph Cannavo <jcannavo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> my boat brokerage list is @ cjamyachtsales.com
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Found out that the Benz SLK 55 has the " AMG Package" , Stainless Package , 4 Exhaust Pipes and custom fins ....... SWEET RIG " ;D :) :P
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I think i found some old foto's of my pilot that have not been post up before, if you can believe that ::)
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Old Wiring
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New Wiring - see the black wire tube to the left plus the new circuit board panel wiring.
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New engine wiring harness
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Dave > give me a call , I dropped my phone over board ! Need your phone # ! Thinking about coming up to Tuckerton , NJ next week ...... thanks Joe
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Dave > give me a call , I dropped my phone over board ! Need your phone # ! Thinking about coming up to Tuckerton , NJ next week ...... thanks Joe
Dave _ thanks for calling ...... :)
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Herreshoff Pilot
Inboxx
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Joe: Many thanks for your help yesterday. Turns out, as far as we can determine, you were right. A SS 1/2" X 2.5" long coarse-threaded bolt fit into the hole and tightened up nicely. I am a tad nervous about now pulling out both bolts in order to replace the cutlass bearing--but, maybe after a beer or two, I'll cave in. Will try to send you some pictures ASAP. Best, Woody
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jcannavo@gmail.com
Jul 6 (2 days ago)
to adam
Hey, Woody - any pictures of your Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ? Thanks Joe
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adam evans
8:23 AM (8 hours ago)
to me
I have not forgotten and I will see if I can generate some through Scott Campbell; where are you located in New Jersey? Best, W
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jcannavo@gmail.com
8:35 AM (8 hours ago)
to adam
Somers Point, NJ 08244 -8 miles South of at Atlantic City Thanks Joe
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adam evans
2:50 PM (2 hours ago)
to me
Scott Campbell is trying to take pictures with his new i-Phone, and will e-mail them to me. I have often anchored in St. George's Thorofare, the Brigantine lagoon. In a keelboat, sometimes dicey to get into, but always worth it--I have friends who have a townhome overlooking the water. In smaller boats, I would often take the NJI south of AC. But the railroad bridge height is fixed and limits one to a mast height of 30'. Right now I am searching for a rigger in Bridgeport CT to assist in making repairs to a Kenyon mast. I am at Cap'ns Cove, run by the Williams family. Kaye Williams is a well-known boat builder, among other things. He re-did the HMS Rose some years back; she became the HMS Surprise, in the movie Master and Commander. Back to you soon re the Pilot. Sorry I have taken so long. W
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Yea..... i know that anchorage well in St. George's Thorofare, the
> Brigantine lagoon. It can be a bit dicey to get into, but once in the safe harbor area its always
> worth it and plenty of water even during low tide.....The secret is to hug the sand beach on the starboard side when entering that safe harbor area off of Atlantic City Inlet..... .As far as the AC railroad bridge on the ICW heading South from AC > its operated via cameras from New York , and can see when boats are coming close for a bridge openning , if no trains are coming it will open for you , but if there is a train in the area , you can wait up to 30 mins for an openning !!!!!!!! YES > the railroad
> bridge height is fixed and limits one to a mast height of 30'., what does " SUCK " , but my Inlet " Great Egg Inlet " is only 8 miles South up the beach and you can pick up the ICW again .... Cardinal Joe
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Looks like the " SALE " of my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot is still on , but without the Benz CLK 55 ! ;D
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18' Squadron Yacht Bay Fisherman
•Boat Name: LiL Gar-Lar
•Year: 1980
•Located in Newport Beach, CA
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FWD: New lead from YachtWorld.com: 1974 18ft Herreshoff Harbor Pilot]
joec@cjamyachtsales.com
Jul 8 (3 days ago)
to me
-------- Original Message--------
Subject:: New lead from YachtWorld.com: 1974 18ft Herreshoff Harbor Pilot
From: "Steven Neilsen steveneilsen@yahoo.com"
To:: steveneilsen@yahoo.com
CC:
LEAD DESTINATION:
Company name: C-Jam Yacht Sales
Address: Somers Point NJ, United States
INDIVIDUAL PROSPECT:
Name: Steven Neilsen steveneilsen@yahoo.com
Telephone: 860.........
Email: steveneilsen@yahoo.com
LEAD INFORMATION:
Lead source: YachtWorld.com
Lead status: Lead
Lead request type: INTERESTED-IN
SALES VESSEL:
Sale class: Used
Make: Herreshoff
Model description: Harbor Pilot
Model year: 1974
Length: 18ft
IMT ID: 3131245
YachtWorld ID: 2301701
LEAD COMMENTS:
Subject:YW# 2301701 - 18' 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot (US$18,995)
Your Name: Steven Neilsen
E-mail: steveneilsen@yahoo.co
Address: Norwich
City,State,Zip,Country: Connecticut
Subject: YW# 2301701 - 18' 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot (US$ 18,995)
Comments:
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Good morning, checking on the availability of the vessel. If still for sale, i would like to come down and see it some time after the 6th. Please feel free to call after the 6th as I am currently out of country on business.
Thank you
S.Neilsen
860-.............
name:Steven Neilsen
e-mail:steveneilsen@yahoo.com
city,state,zip,country:Connecticut
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Tomorrow , 7/15/2012 .... I should have a Deposit on my Herreshoff Harbor Pilot !...... At which point I will post up " Sale Pending " ....... :)
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" SALE PENDING "
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Well, Its official the New Home Port of my Pilot is " Tuckerton , NJ " ....... :)
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The Herreshoff Harbor Pilot will be cruising the waters of Little Egg Inlet >One of the more reliable inlets on New Jersey's coast, Little Egg Inlet is located 10 miles northeast of Absecon Inlet ( AC ) and 22 miles southwest of Barnegat Inlet….. Including Beach Heaven , Long Beach Island ( LBI ) , Tuckerton , Mystic Island , Barnegat ( back waters) and on weekends Cruising to Atlantic City to the New Golden Nugget Casino Marina ( old Trump Marina ) ! The new owners Dave & Denise ( Great People ) intent to use the Pilot has much as they can with their friends and Dave will also fish for Striped Bass in the fall season , it’s the prefect boat to troll 4 to 6 knots for Stripers …… Dave will announce her new name shortly, so be on the look out for this Herreshoff Harbor Pilot if you’re navigating through the above waters…… \
Yes ….. My little Red Hull #63 – Herreshoff Harbor Pilot has finally found a “Good Home Port “on Curlew Lagoon in Tuckerton, NJ 08087. She was delivered to Ocean City ,NJ has a Brand New Boat and has manage to stay in New Jersey since 1974 to present ……
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Well , Dave & Denise have a name for their Herreshoff Harbor Pilot its " Pug Tug " .
Named after the two remaining kids living at home , the kids love to go boating and swimming in the bay ....
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Water Pug's ? Well , they think their Water Dogs !
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jcannavo@gmail.com
12:08 PM (8 hours ago)
to wood
Yes it looks great , send more
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 18, 2012, at 7:21 PM, "wood mack" <woodmack@gmx.com> wrote:
Joe: Let me know if this has worked. More to come. W
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Well , thats a nice launch , but its not a Herreshoff Fisherman Launch ..... Let's see if the next foto's are a Herreshoff Launch......
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H Pilot Pix
wood mack woodmack@gmx.com Let me know if you have five different images. As I head south this fall, perhaps it will be possible to take a peek at your Pilot? Best, W5:51 PM (18 hours ago)
Joseph Cannavo
8:37 PM (16 hours ago)
to wood
Got the last 3 pic's and the first foto , but missing # 2 pic .....Just Sold my Pilot , but ur welcome to stop in at Tuckerton , NJ The
new owners will be glad to show off there Herreshoff Harbor Pilot and
I'll meet you there ....Thanks Joe
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YUP > that's a Herreshoff Bay Fisherman Launch .......
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Same boat has above - " Herreshoff Bay Fisherman Launch " with the original Wooden Transmission Shifter Handle , which only came on the "Bay Fisherman Model " .
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Notice the starboard side top deck molding has a cut out > that's where the new fuel tank full hose clamp needed to be connected to the replacement fuel tank , most guys put a piece of teak trim or inspection port hole plate to cover the cut out . The Fuel tank was installed at the factory ,before the top deck & side molding was installed , never thinking that 38 years later a new fuel tank would be needed ! If you look and my old pilot and now Dave & Denise new Pilot > there is NO hole to cover up , because I invented a custom tool to install the hose clamp to the tank and to the orginial bronze fill cap neck connection ...... 8)
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I heard that my Ex - Pilot is getting more Bronze hardware added to her including a pair of Antique Bronze Outriggers .......
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New Solid Bass Handles installed on Console > Dave stated they came out of one of the Casino's in AC , he has 9 other pairs ,if anyone is interseted ?
Before
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After
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Well, I have been looking for a Bass Flag Pole Holder for the last two years , almost had one on eBay , but lost it to a last minute higher bidder and the bid was only a $ 1.00 more than my bid !
Told Dave that he may have a problem finding a Bass Pole Holder and have him the Wooden Flag Pole ! Its only a week later a " The Pug Tug " has a Bass Flag Pole Holder installed on her transom ? Dave - told me I had been looking in the wrong places , that infact most chome cover flag pole holders were solid bass and chrome plated , so he sanded off the top of a chrome plated holder down to the bass and then polish it up !
Pictures don't tie .....
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Nice Bass Hardware......Both front & back units
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New bass flounder door knob installed .....
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******** Another Herreshoff Harbor Pilot for Sale Craiglist for only one day > " SOLD "
Jul 26 - Herreshoff Harbor Pilot - (Barnstable) Mass. > pic <<boats - by owner
Yes > both Adam & I missed this listing before it was Deleted on Craiglist Posting !!!!!!!
But > I know that Herreshoff Harbor Pilot that was posted up for sale !!!!!!!!! Anyone what to guess ?
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ITS the " HOOK " that Sold in just one day !!!!!!! I only have one picture of The Hook , hoping to obtain more from the Seller and the Buyer ...... HULL # 36
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Herreshoff Harbor Pilot - capecod.craigslist.org › for sale / wanted › boats - by owner
Jul 26, 2012 – "Hook" my 18' Herreshoff Pilot is going to be sold. "Hook" is hull # 36 built in 1974 . She is th pride of the Harbor, and turns heads whenever she ...
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Peter - Pictures of " HOOK " ? my other email address is jcannavo@gmail.com .... Thanks Joe
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:41 PM, <joec@cjamyachtsales.com> wrote:
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> -------- Original Message--------
> Subject:: Hook
> From: "Peter Robbins" <investigation@comcast.net>
> Date: Jul 26, 2012 3:28 PM
> To:: <joec@cjamyachtsales.com>
> CC:
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> Joe - Just so you are aware, “Hook” is for sale. I have listed it on Craigs List today. I put a below market price for a quick sale. I was not able to list it on the registry but I probably was not doing something right. I did register, I’ll try again later.Peter
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From: joec@cjamyachtsales.com
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:26 PMTo: investigation@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Hook
Peter - saw it was deleted , did you sell her ? Also do you have any
pictures of Hook that I could post up on The Herreshoff Registry - I only
have one toto of Hook , Thanks Joe
WOW > that's a hell of a tide drop from looking at the piling , in Bar Harbor , Maine I have seen 22 ft and in Eastport , Maine i have seen 38 ft drop , but Novia Scotia > I saw a 42 ft tide drop .....
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Yes > it was The Herreshoff Eagle 22
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wood mackLet me know if you have five different images. As I head south this fall, per...
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Joseph Cannavo _YuP - that's the foto I was missing ! Thanks Again .... Joe
5:18 PM (18 hours ago)
YuP - that's the foto I was missing ! Thanks Again .... Joe wood mack
11:07 AM (34 minutes ago)
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Funny to hear from you at this moment. I was watching an elderly couple rig the gaff sails on their cat boat in Black Rock Harbor, CT. The hull looks as if it is a Pilot hull; it's bigger and fuller than the cat boats one commonly sees in NJ and CT. Did they build a cat version? Best, W
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From: Joseph Cannavo
Sent: 08/03/12 05:18 PM
To: wood mack
Subject: Re: H Pilot Pix
YuP - that's the foto I was missing ! Thanks Again .... Joe
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:05 AM, wood mack <woodmack@gmx.com> wrote:
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> Let me know if this is the right one; I thought I sent it before. I am
> familiar with that Tuckerton museum. In 2005, kept a boat at Viking during a
> hurricane. People in NJ are so blase about hurricanes! W
> ----- Original Message -----
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From: Joseph Cannavo
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Sent: 07/19/12 08:37 PM
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> To: wood mack
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> Subject: Re: H Pilot Pix
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>Got the last 3 pic's and the first foto , but missing # 2 pic .....
> Just Sold my Pilot , but ur welcome to stop in at Tuckerton , NJ The
> new owners will be glad to show off there Herreshoff Harbor Pilot and
> I'll meet you there ....Thanks Joe
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:51 PM, wood mack <woodmack@gmx.com> wrote:
>> Let me know if you have five different images. As I head south this fall,
>> perhaps it will be possible to take a peek at your Pilot? Best, W
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The missing Herreshoff Bay Fisherman Launch Foto .....take note of the Wooden Handle Gear Shifter and the Teak molding under the bow rail is an option on this model , but someone added a White Painted Wooden Splash Rail to this hull ....... Note it states 16 life vests aboard !
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NortheastSailboatRescue
Registered Member
Posts: 7
Hook « on: August 04, 2012, 01:23:41 PM »
Quote -Yes Hook has a new Home! She is at Northeast Sailboat Rescue, berthed at Brewer South Freeport Marine, and is already causing quite a bit of interest and buzz about the harbor! I will get you out some pictures as time allows. Hook is now serving as harbor launch and bay cruiser for us and most importantly Captain our golden retriever!
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From: "Peter Robbins" <investigation@comcast.net> (Add as Preferred Sender)
Date: Sat, Jul 28, 2012 1:58 pm
To: <joec@cjamyachtsales.com>
Yea, I know it's cheap. It has caused some sad eyes in my house, my wife
and grandchildren loved "Hook". Just looking for a 19 or 20 ' skiff I can
trailer around a little bit. Anyway, yes it is sold to Northeast Sailboat Rescue in Maine.
Sad day, but this too will pass. Had several serious buyers that I have to
contact as well. I do have photos of Hook I can send if you want them.
Later
Peter
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Old Bronze Bell
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New Bronze Bell
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I took a trip today, up to Tuckerton , NJ to visit " Pug Tug " . Dave plans to install underwater , under gunnel and in cabin Lights ! If Dave keeps add " BASS " items to the Pilot , he may need to re-paint the water line on the hull ;D :) ;D
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"Pug Tug"- will be making some party trips to AC Golden Nugget Marina (Trump) and needed a few Beer Can Holders for the trip.......
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YUP ! You guess it more BASS on " Pug Tug " ........
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Dave > there are the New Jersey Reg. # 's ......
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Now that's one " Shiny Red Hull " ........ I can see Dave's Truck !
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In New Slip behind Dave & Denise house in " Clam Town " Tuckerton , NJ .......
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3 Sets of LIGHTS installed on the " Pug Tug " ........
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Under Water Lights.....
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Sand Bar / Beach Party .......and " Pug Tug " was present !
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Poss. in Cabin Light ? ...... Nice Old Bass Lamp !
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Dave was looking for a Spot Light for his Pilot , and came across this old bass naval spot light made in Phila. so, he purchased it .......
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ROSE MANUFACTURING CO. "NEVEROUT" BRASS MARINE SEARCHLIGHT, polished,
circular base with holes for securing and a gimbaled support, reverse
with a handle, cover with brass plate marked "NO 68 / THE NEVEROUT
TRADE MARK / PATENT MOTOR LAMPS / STAND PRE-EMINENT / ROSE MFG. CO.,
PHILADELPHIA, U. S. A.",
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http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/bod/3278903716.html
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Thanks Adam......
This Pilot was Donated to a Maritime Museum then Sold and I think Sold again and up for Sale once again !
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This is a VERY RARE FIND! This Nauset launch is a Herreshoff design and is very hard to find. this boat is perfectly set up, with a wide open cockpit area and horseshoe style transom seating. Comes with a bimini top as well. It is a full inboard, powered by a B.M.W. 45 HP Diesel, with 855 hrs. The cabin has ample space for storage and sleeping. Quite the unusual boat and it is easy enough to trailer! Would be great boat for Boston area and the Cape! HERE IS YOUR CHANCE!! WAS $14,500..REDUCED TO $11,900 Call for more information Tel# 508 525 2710
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1985 Nauset Pilot club launch18 ft. boat w/ BMW Diesel..REDUCED!! - $11900 (Dartmouth,Ma)
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B.M.W. 45 HP Diesel
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Is that a " Norwegian Flag " on the Pug Tub ?
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I have, what I always thought to be an 18' Herreshoff Yacht Club Launch, but now find it is referred to as the Bay Fisherman. It was built in 1978 L 18'02", B 8', D 1'10". Have not been able to find others on the net. Does anyone know anything about these boats and is there a market for them? Thanks Curt.
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If the console is on the port side its a YC launch. If its in the middle its a bay fisherman.
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Bay Fisherman :
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Yacht Club Launch
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If the console is on the port side its a YC launch. If its in the middle its a bay fisherman.
Both Models are Launch's and both have the helm console on the port side , unless Customize with a Center Console.
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" Up For Sale " - TSPHP0450674 = Nowak & Williams Yard , HULL # 45 , MONTH JUNE , YEAR 1974 ....... $ 10,000.00
Tom's Pilot , it has the Original Bronze Anchor Light Hardware > which is very hard to find on these Pilot's .Two Front Custom Pop-Out Windows , A nice Pin-Stripe in the White Boot Stripe and its a Green Color Hull which i believe to be the rarest of the color hulls pilots.
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Don't believe this is correct - what makes you think this: "Bay Fisherman = Console on Port Side and Yacht Club Launch = Center Console..........."
YC Launches in general always have a console on the port side as the proper way to approach most yachts is to Starboard. Thus you can grab the moored boat. "Fishing" boats are mostly center consoles. I don't believe the Pilot series deviated from this.
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Adam - I believe the " Bay Fisherman " and " Yacht Club " are both " Launches " ! In doing reseach today on the models and the position of the helm console , I made a discovery ! In looking at the Herreshoff Brochure of the 6 cat hull models , I noticed that the " Yacht Club Launch " has a (wooden) Shift Handle in it ,which means that the helm console would have been on the port side and I believe that the " Bay Fisherman model " also had the same helm console configuration and that both models had a boarding step ladder. According to the Bay Fisherman Brochure had a standard 15 hp motor ( Gas or Diesel ) and the Yacht Club had a standard Westerbeke Diesel 30 hp engine and more Safety features along with being US Coast Guard Certified for marinas/club to use for hire...... As far as the Center Console model, I believe they were Custom order boats with boarding ladders (optional) , which makes your theory " Correct " ..... I will post up pictures of both Models with descpritions !
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I stand corrected , I now believe this is a " Yacht Club Model " and NOT a " Bay Fisherman Model has I first stated in earlier posts ......
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On SOLD Boats .com was listed as a :
18' Squadron Yacht Bay Fisherman
•Boat Name: LiL Gar-Lar
•Year: 1980
•Located in Newport Beach, CA
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Joe – you said “Yacht Club Launch” has a (wooden) Shift Handle in it” – Actually that is the steering – Most small Launches have no “wheel” but steer using this gunnel “Tiller”. I’m sure there is a name for this “stick” – as well as a reason for this type of steering vs. a wheel – but don’t know (though I have my theorys). Maybe one of the members would enlighten us… As for the Fisherman coming with a side console – you might be correct - and the only difference is the wheel steering and the transome sail/mast. I just assumed the Fisherman are CC's – which I suppose one should not do. Maybe Adam L. knows….As you noted the catalog states custom configurations available – I wonder what – if any – they did?
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Yes - I hope Adam L or a owner of a Bay fisherman or Yacht Club Launch could clear this matter up for us ? I'm not sure by looking at a BF model vs YC model if I could tell the Model ? Yes the BF model came with a " Dodger Cover " , but that could have been an Option on the YC model too.
Now the above foto of the so called Bay Fisherman also has a added (teak) top side rail , was this standard on the BF model ? I have not seen a actual foto of the transom day sail/mast unit on a BF model ,as show in the orginal Herreshoff Brochure ....
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Another " Bay Fisherman " - note the (teak) top side rail ......
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*********** Yacht Club Launch ***********
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################### Yacht Club Launch ##################
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Note Wooden Stick Handle .......
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Adam - need your help on this request .......
James Reid - Herreshoff Scout Owner
jjreid2693@aol.com
Joe, it's a while since I've written. Once again I'm asking for your help and thoughts.
I've been thinking about trying to get the masts that fold so I can trailer the Herreshoff Scout that I own. Has any one ever done this that you know of, especially since she's a ketch rig? Do you have a lead for me as to who could do this for me correctly?
Finally I'm thinking about getting new sails for the boat and once again I'm concerned about the measurements. I could just measure the set I have but I have no way of knowing that they are indeed the correct measurements as per designer specifics. Thoughts????
Thanks for your help as always.
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I'd start by calling Geoff Marshall at Marshall Marine - as I believe he has retrofitted Herreshoff America's with his tabernacle for the Marshall Sanderling. Maybe he has a suggestion on the Scout...
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Adam - Thanks Joe ......
PS - Phone # ? or email for Geoff Marshall at Marshall Marine ......
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http://www.marshallcat.com/
Geoff Marshall
(508) 994-0414
geoff@marshallcat.com
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Greatly Appreciated ........
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I'll be on the water taking a 66 footer SF to Miami at 10 kts around the clock with a crew of 6 , should be up the Miami River in 6 days , should only burn a gallon of diesel fuel per mile ! PS > i will Not have any internet service on the trip .... Cardinal Joe
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Came in at St. Augustine inlet at 7:00 am Wed,,,,,.Dock at The City Docks obtain some fuel and had lunch in town , when head down the Inter- Coastal Waterway (ICW) ,,,,,,, " Sandy " had started to build up out at sea , so i decided to take the ICW to the Miami River. On friday afternoon I passed the Fort Lauderdale Boat Show , the winds were 40 plus MPH and the seas were 20 plus feet inshore . I had a great trip until I started to cross the Biscayne Bay - it was a complete white out , winds of 50 + and rain blowing sideways . I could see the channel marks on Radar & GPS , but couldn,t see them visually as i passed them . Had to go up the Miami River in the dark , that was no fun , too many bridge openning and boats being rafted off other dock boats . Reached Richard Bertram facilty dock at 9;30 pm end of trip !
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Are u back in NJ? Your neck of the woods got hammered... we got hit pretty good but surprisingly little damage...
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No airline fights flying up the east coast ! I had to rent a full size SUV , and drive 1247 miles in 21 hours to get back to New Jersey ! WOW - DID WE GET HAMMERED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!............ I can't put into words the damage that " Sandy " has done , we had a direct hit from the eye of the storm 95+ MPH ! I'm 8 miles South of Atlantic City ! :o "Sandy " came ashore 5 miles south of AC ......
I'm very worried about " Pug Tug " in Tuckerton , NJ with Winds at 88 MPH > Dave , got her out of the water and parked her on high ground on the Island. He was NOT allowed back on the Island to check on her ! Maybe tomorrow ? I can tell you that LBI, Beach Haven and Tuckerton have " unbelievable devastation "..........
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It could have been alot worst , it was schedule to come ashore at high tide with a full moon , but "Sandy" pick up speed from 12 kts to 28 kts and hit at mid-tide........ but there was alot of water being kept in the bays because of the winds days before "Sandy" arrived in NJ !
All the Navigable Inlets in NJ....... will need the Navigation Buoys Re-position in the newly created channels , some Inlet may not be navigable channel or become "Local Knowledge Inlets "...........
PS - Dave may not be able to check on the " Pug Tug" tomorrow ! A travel ban remains in effect, and access to the barrier islands is cut-off by sheriff's officers........
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The marina in Tuckerton,NJ that haul out & stored the Pilot, took a picture of the " Pug Tug " for Dave , to show that the little Herreshoff Harbor Pilot is a Survivor of " Sandy ".....
I still Love that little boat !!!!!!!!!!!!! Cardinal Joe :)
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The picture above of the " Pug Tug " is from a Youtube Video that was taken by someone during low tide, looking for their boat .
It also shows the rest of the boats in that marina that where just floating around , the big blue steel travel lift actually helped save the Pilot , from the other boats !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpE-HX4AxBM&feature=plcp (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpE-HX4AxBM&feature=plcp)
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It also shows the rest of the boats in that marina that where just floating around , the big blue steel travel lift actually helped save the Pilot , from the other boats !
I might have spoken to soon . just obtained pictures of the " Pug Tug " from Dave ...... The Pilot does have Gelcoat Damage to both sides of the hull..... :( :( :(
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This is " NOT A BIG DEAL " , Yes the Pilot is going to need to be Re-Gelcoated !
I'm hoping this is all the damage that, she sustained in the hurricane of the century ? Still do Not know if there was any flooding of the engine compartment , and if it was rain water or salt water from the high tides ?????????
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Talked to Dave ,this morning, he stated that the Batteries were still pumping rain water, has he towed it back to his driveway ..... he also stated that the " Pug tug " was plugged in at the marina so, the batteries were fully charged !
The only other damage that he could see was the transom corner of the teak toe rail , which could be sanded ! You can see the damage in the picture .....
There still is NO power on the island of Tuckerton , and a Noreaster is coming on Wed. of this week ..... I have Dave a Winter Cover for the Pilot , which he has now installed , the batteries are weak and with No power to charge them , this cover will kept out the rain water from entering the boat !
Remember there is NO Drain Plug or self bailing holes in this Cat Hull ....
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This picture of a 16 ft MFG standing bow high , is Dave's other boat that he left in the water behind his shore house in Tuckerton , NJ . He just had done a complete Restoration on the old girl, including its 33hp Evinrude motor ! The Banana Boat is missing its windshield in the picture, but thats the lease of its issues .
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I just remember that " Little Toot " port of call is Beach Haven ,NJ which is across from Tuckerton ,NJ ......
Wonder if she is OK ? There are some foto's of " Little Toot " ....
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On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:21 PM, Joseph Cannavo <jcannavo@gmail.com> wrote:
Charlie , How did " Little Toot "' & Bertram 35 survive the Storm ? i know Beach Haven got hit hard ........ Cardinal Joe
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On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Charles Haws <cbhaws@verizon.net> wrote:
Joe we got hammered. Both boats were tied to the docks with summer lines. Both did fine. We were in London until the Wed after. We got here late Wed night, two days after. I checked on the boats they were riding fine. The 35B battered the dock pilings breaking two. All she got was a couple of gelcoat scratches.
No power, for 10 days now. Plus 4 inches of snow. I just shoveled Little Toot out. Did not want the snow load to take her under.
We lost everything in the garage and all the insulation under the house. There are plies of lumber from the Barrier Island washed here. Tons and tons of broken houses and broken dreams.
I hope your marina did better then ones up here. Most lost every boat in their care. The folks who hauled lost big time. The boats are in piles.
Thanks for asking,
Charlie
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Charlie >Sorry , to hear about the damage to your house , but its Great to hear that the " Herreshoff Harbor Pilot " > " LITTLE TOOT ", is SAFE ! .....My ex-pilot was sold to a very nice couple in Tuckerton , NJ and was docked behind their house , until the day before the storm it was hauled out and left at the local marina in town , it did obtain damage during the storm , but its only GelCoat damage to both sides of the hull , by other boats floating into the pilot ..... If you get a chance ,please send me an updated picture of your Herreshoff Harbor Pilot , Thanks Joe ......
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I have a red Harbor Pilot in Cape May, NJ for sale if anyone is interested. Yanmar Diesel. New trailer. Herk Wetherill (609) 884 7927
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I have a red Harbor Pilot in Cape May, NJ for sale if anyone is interested. Yanmar Diesel. New trailer. Herk Wetherill (609) 884 7927
Hey , Herk - I was thinking about your Pilot today , wondering how it survived " Sandy " .
Can you Please post up any pictures of your Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ?
(specially the wooden boarding steps)......also the Year & Hull # of your Pilot . Thanks
Cardinal Joe :)
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There is another Herreshoff Harbor Pilot in Ventnor,NJ on the ICW, located at the Dorset Avenue Bridge, just South of Atlantic City, NJ. ... I don't think " Sandy" could damage that old girl , she is to protective from wind , but flooding is another story .
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Joe, I am Hull Number 5. I am thinking around 11,000 with the trailer.
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Wow, that's a very fair price ...... if its hull # 5 then its a 1974 with a Cat Rudder ...
What HP is your Diesel , does it have a Heat Exchanger Unit....... Engine Hours on the replacement Yanmar Diesel ?
Any Pictures ..... Thanks Joe
PS > This Red Hull Herreshoff Harbor Pilot is in VERY GOOD Condition and I beleive it is a turn key boat ........ :)
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I'm going to take a ride down to Tuckerton ,NJ tomorrow to check up on the '' Pug Tug "....
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Tuckerton > New Jersey look like a war zone something out of an old sci-fi movie ( doomsday ) ...... What I saw today is nothing like you see on TV ...... Unless you actually witness the devastation in person , you can't appreciate the Magnitude of the damage ,from 89 mph winds with flood waters six feet above high tide..... Streets of houses with 15 ft high piles of debris & flooded funiture / belonging of homeowners ...... you will find an endless amount of sand piled into lofty mountains up & down the streets in this little Clam Town ......
If your lucky to have Flood Ins. > it will only cover living areas of the house , the garage / Rec Room /basement / storage rooms under the main living areas are " NOT Covered " or its contents !!!!!!!! Houses severely damaged by hurricane Sandy will be demolished !
. FEMA > Storm victims can apply for up to $31,900 for repairs or rent. If your house has to be Demolished , it can be up to the Max. of $250,000.00 per house (if you obtained a home equity loan to add on or remodel your shore house , the banks does Not require Flood Ins . So, if you had sunk a Million dollars into your house and had NO Flood Ins. FEMA'S Max is still only $250,000.00 ! " BUT ONLY IF ITS YOUR " Primary Residence " !!!!!!!!!! "..... FEMA > will NOT Cover any expenses for repairs on a Second home > i.e. Summer Shore House !
PS > if you obtained a home equity loan from a bank and the house has to be demolished , the home owner still owes the bank the balance of the loan !
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I had a chance to finally meet the owner of " MY Buddy " the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot in Ventnor , NJ on the ICW ....... Owner Tom Van Duyne owns Hull # 41 . This Pilot is from Atlantic City ,NJ and has history behind her > I'm hoping Tommy - will start posting up on this Herreshoff forum about his Pilot ?
Tom Van Duyne is a famous guy in the " Surf Boats World "( Lifegurad Beach Patrol Boats) . He builds the Finest Lifeguard Surf Boats on the east coast and poss. the world ! There is a big used market for one of these classic boats , they only last a few days before being sold ......
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http://blog.nj.com/njv_mark_diionno/2010/08/surfboat_builder_takes_over_fa.html
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Tom Van Duyne is surrounded by lifeguard boats in his family's boatyard that are in need of repair. Van Duyne builds surfboats for most all ocean lifeguards in South Jersey
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Herreshoff Harbor Pilot # 041 .......
Owner Tom Van Duyne
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Tom - still has the original Boom which is part of its history......
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The second owner of this 1974 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot - Hull # 41 was " Harrah's Marina hotel/casino."...... And Quess what she operated as under Harrah's ?
1978
The board of directors of Holiday Inns, Inc. of Memphis, Tennessee, approves proposal to build and operate a hotel/casino in the marina area of Atlantic City, New Jersey.
February 1980
Holiday Inns, Inc. acquires Harrah's hotel casino company. Holiday Inn at the time has 1,600 hotels and interests in two casinos: a casino under construction in the marina district in Atlantic City, New Jersey, and a 40 percent ownership interest in River Boat Casino, Inc., a casino adjacent to the Holiday Inn hotel on the Las Vegas strip.
November 1980
The under construction marina casino in Atlantic City opens as Harrah's Marina hotel/casino.
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My Herreshoff 18' came from M&W Boatworks in AC, NJ. She previously worked as a water taxi for Harrah's Casino, ferrying tourists between Gardiner's Basin, Trump Marina & Harrah's in the AC inlet, early 1980's.
Her previous owner was Charles Jury, a boatbuilder who lived on a houseboat in AC inlet.
The boat is named "My Buddy" in memory of my dad, John VanDuyne, builder, inventor, VanDuyne Lifeguard Boat, who passed away in April 1997. I saw the boat in Soundings Mag., she had all the qualities my dad taught me were important in a workboat, straight stem, round stern, deisel engine,big rudder.
It just made me think of him so much.
I have all original parts, the sail says water taxi. I took the mast off to go under the Dorset Ave. bridge at high tide.
She's a great flounder fishing boat! All good.
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" Happy Thanksgiving "
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Yanmar - 3 cylinder. 30 hp with heat exchanger unit.....
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The choke levers are on each cyl. head > flip them to the right , until motor cranks over then flip them back ( No pre-heat button )(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd432/jcannavo/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20OWNER-PC/DSC09982.jpg)
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Hull # 041
Tom - replaced the original 18 gal. steel fuel tank with a 12 gal. Alu. fuel tank ....
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Tom > uses the Pilot as a Flounder Fishing Boat in the back bays , the previous owner was Charles Jury used her as a fishing boat for " Striped Bass " in the AC Inlet and inshore ..... Charles had installed Outriggers for trolling for Stripers & Bluefish...
In the first foto below the Outrigger base bracket is still mounted on the port side of the cabin house side window ......
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Original Bass Nav. Lights ......
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Spot Light for Bouy seaching in AC Inlet ?
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She is a weathered looking old girl .....
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Restoring the Shine to Fiberglass
By Don Casey
Revised by BoatUS editors in April 2012
The outer surface of a fiberglass boat is normally a special resin called gelcoat. Gelcoat has little structural value--the underlying laminates of resin-saturated glass fabric provide that--but gelcoat protects the hull and gives it its color and shine.
When the gelcoat was originally sprayed into the hull mold, it--like all gels--took on the shape and texture of the mold surface. The ultra high gloss most new boats exhibit is due entirely to the highly polished, mirror-like surface of the mold used in the original construction of the boat.
Time and exposure eventually erode the relatively soft surface of gelcoat, leaving it dull and chalky. Fortunately, the gloss usually can be restored.
---- MAYBE ??????
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Cleaning
The first step in restoring the gloss to dull gelcoat is always a thorough cleaning. Add a cup of detergent to a gallon of water--warm water is better--and use a sponge to wash the surface with this solution. Be sure to protect your hands with rubber gloves.
If mildew is present, add a cup of household bleach to your cleaning solution. Difficult stains like fish blood and waterline scum may require the direct application of a concentrated cleaner formulated for fiberglass. Rinse the clean surface thoroughly and let it dry
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Cardinal Joe! Here are the pics I took of my America 18' before and after I converted her from sailboat to power launch. I forgot to show you these pics a couple of years ago when I did this work.
She was beat up for years and left out to rot. I removed the cabin top, bulkheads, centerboard trunk and cockpit seats. I also dropped the cockpit sole down to the cabin sole height. I left the interior liner with the forward benches and the table starboard. I then framed out the boat floors and forward benches to raise the seating in the bow for leg room.
I used Trexx decking for the flooring and seating because I was prototyping the layout I had to add weight to make up for the material I removed.
The boat has been powered up until now with a small outboard in the well.
These are all pics Pre- Sandy. Lola sank in the huricane and was torn apart by good samaritans after the storm.The next time I post it will be this project all over again-this time as a deisel powered Bay fisherman done properly as I have seen in the pics on this site. Thanks for getting all those shots together and I'll keep everyone updated as I go along. You can contact me at Keytimekev@gmail.com if you have specific questions or comments about the old conversion or the new rebuild. Further contact info is available at www.barnegatbayboatrepair.com
Lola is the only fiberglass boat out of the 6 I own, but it has all the qualities I look for in a proper boat.
Now I can't find a way to post the pics I've uploaded to flickr and I have to get to the shop so I'll get back on this tonight. I still have to download the post hurricane ducktaping and re-launching photos and get the video of the rescue fiasco to youtube.
BTW the boat survived the hurricane but couldn't take the 6 hour effort to get her raised by some misguided people at the Toms River Yacht Club.
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Maybe this will work?
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Or this?[img]http://www.flickr.com/photos/46762055@N04/8235151466/in/photostream//img]
The boat when I got it in 2008
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Welcome aboard ...... launchmaker.
try an insert just the www.flickr.com/photos/46762055@N04/8235151466/in/photostream// into the above Mona Lisa block just below the B (bold) blocker and see if that works , Or email me the foto's at jcannavo@gmail.com and I'll post them up for you
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WOW - Kevin just saw all 37 pictures of before and after your Herreshoff Hull Restoration Project !!!!!!
Nice work on the restore of the hull and SORRY > for " Sandy " ...... :(
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Or this?[img]http://www.flickr.com/photos/46762055@N04/8235151466/in/photostream//img]
The boat when I got it in 2008
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www.flickr.com/photos/46762055@N04/8235151466 - click on hyperlink an picture will appear ....
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Thanks for the info Joe! Now that the top is off I can flip it upside down, form and build up the seat back around the front of the cabin and get to the inner liner with ease. I'll have to lay engine stringers, fill in the well, build up the transom like I've seen in the photos of the Bay Fisherman and go the diesel route. Thanks for all the detailed pics you've posted and if I find any others, I'll post them here as well.
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Forgot to mention that the hull is registered as a 1970. There were no numbers on it other than the HIN plate Motor Vehicles stuck on the transom. The name boards that were on the cabin sides originally had Katrina routed in on the back side with blue paint in the letters, but the boards were reversed and Lola was the name when I got her.
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Forgot to mention that the hull is registered as a 1970. There were no numbers on it other than the HIN plate Motor Vehicles stuck on the transom. The name boards that were on the cabin sides originally had Katrina routed in on the back side with blue paint in the letters, but the boards were reversed and Lola was the name when I got her.
The boat when I got it in 2008
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Degreasing
Keeping gelcoat coated with wax, starting when the boat is new, is the best way to prolong its life. Regularly waxed gelcoat can retain its gloss for 15 years or more. The real purpose of a coat of wax is to protect, but wax also has restorative properties if the gelcoat is not too badly weathered.
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Cardinal Joe,
Not sure if my first message went thru...sorry if I'm repeating myself. If so, I'll keep it short.... I own a 18' pilot but the forward cabin has been removed and discarded. I was hoping I could find the dimensions for it somewhere. Can you offer any help or direction of where I could find this information?Thanks,
Jon
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Jon - Welcome Aboard !!!!! I'll try to find out the infor. you are requesting . Thanks Cardinal Joe
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Wax
Keeping gelcoat coated with wax-starting when the boat is new-is the best way to prolong its life. Regularly waxed gelcoat can retain its gloss for 15 years or more. The real purpose of a coat of wax is to protect, but wax also has restorative properties if the gelcoat is not too badly weathered.
Application instructions vary among brands, but in general you apply the wax with a cloth or foam pad using a circular motion. Let the wax dry to a haze, then buff away the excess with a soft cloth, such as an old bath towel. The remaining wax fills microscopic pitting in the gelcoat and provides a new, smooth, reflective surface.
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Lola's bow
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Polishing
Polish is not a coating, but rather an abrasive--like extremely fine sandpaper. Polishing removes the pitted surface rather than coating it. Use a soft cloth to apply polish to a small area at a time, rubbing with a circular motion until the surface becomes glassy. After polishing, you should apply a coat of wax to protect the surface and improve the gloss. Some polish products include wax in their formulations.
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Stern - Lola
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Using Rubbing Compound
If the gelcoat is weathered so badly that polish fails to restore its shine, you will need the stronger abrasives rubbing compound contains. Wax on the surface can cause the compound to cut unevenly, so first remove all wax by "sweeping" the surface in one direction--not back and forth--with rags saturated with dewax solvent or toluene.
Select a rubbing compound formulated for fiberglass and use it exactly like polish, rubbing it with a circular motion until the surface turns glassy. The gelcoat on your boat is about 10 times as thick as the paint on your car, so compound shouldn't cut all the way through it as long as you are careful not to rub in one place too long. If the gelcoat starts to look transparent, stop.
After the surface has been compounded, polish it, then coat it with wax and buff it. Providing the gelcoat has an adequate thickness--your boat might have been compounded previously--this process will restore the shine to fiberglass in almost any condition
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keel foto - Lola
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Do You Need an Electric Buffer?
You can wax, polish, and compound by hand, but on anything but the smallest boat, your arm is going to get very tired. An electric buffer takes much of the work out of keeping a boat shining and is less expensive and less painful than elbow replacement.
Electric buffers operate at relatively slow speeds, so don't try to "make do" with a polishing bonnet fitted to a disk sander or a sanding pad chucked into a drill. You will either ruin the surface or ruin the tool. A buffer with an orbital motion will leave fewer swirl marks
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In the chop shop!
Lola
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Restorer
In recent years a number of products have come on the market that claim to restore the surface of the gelcoat. Restorer formulations renew the gloss in essentially the same way as wax--by providing a new smooth surface--but without the need for buffing. Results can be dramatic, but because restorers are a plastic (acrylic) coating--similar to urethane varnish--they can wear off, flake off, and occasionally discolor. Restorer kits typically include a prep wash and sometimes a polish in addition to the restorer. A specialized stripper for removing old sealer is also necessary.
There are variations in the recommended application, but in general it is the same as already described--clean, polish, and coat. The acrylic sealer is usually water-thin, so applying it to the hull is much easier than, say, paste wax. And it dries to hard film, so no buffing is needed. However you do have to apply several coats--five is typical--to get a good shine. If the product you have selected doesn't include an applicator, use a sponge or a soft cloth to wipe the sealer onto the gelcoat. Drying times are short, so subsequent coats can generally be applied almost immediately.
A multicoat application can restore the shine to weathered gelcoat for up to a year, but when it is time to renew it, you will need to remove the old sealer using the special stripper supplied in the kit (or available separately). Apply five fresh coats of sealer and your boat should shine for another year. Maybe ??????
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1 month to launch Lola.....
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A discovery has been made in the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot Hull , Dave from the "Pug Tug" has discovered a drain hole in the hull..... Yes, I should've known about this and I believe at one time I did...... when I remove the engine from the pilot.......,the reason that I didn't remember this drain plug, when talking to Dave before " Sandy "... is I was picturing the bottom of the hull. after I had soda blasted,,,,, there was no hole on the bottom of the hull ,it wasn't protected by a bronze clam shell . Dave made the discovery when he was reaching down to clear some leaves out as he winterize the boat...... he discovered a long Bronze T handle drain plug.... using vice grips it came undone ..... he heard the water coming out , and immediately jumped off the boat, to see where the water was draining out of the hull.... it was coming out of a small hole in the bottom of the keel itself..... that's why I didn't see a brass drain fitting .... I do have a picture with the engine removed and looking into the engine compartment I can see the drain plug handle in the second cross stringer ,the drain plug is directly in the middle of the boat, behind the transmission !
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Hull Drain Plug is in front of the stringer before coupling shaft to the transmission ( not seen in this foto )
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Seen in this foto , in front of stringer ......
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cont... " My Buddy" > Cat Rudder
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Cardinal Joe, New member here. I have read all of your posts on the amazing restoration of your Pilot 18. You do simply incredible work.
I am purchasing a home near the Pawcatuck River in Connecticut and am very interested in a Pilot for use there and in the Fisher's Island Sound. If I were to find a suitable Pilot in the next months, would you be able to do some restoration work on her? Also, are you aware of any Pilots for sale in anywhere near the shape of the boat you restored?
I am located in Princeton, NJ.
Thanks.
Irv
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Cardinal Joe, New member here. I have read all of your posts on the amazing restoration of your Pilot 18. You do simply incredible work.
I am purchasing a home near the Pawcatuck River in Connecticut and am very interested in a Pilot for use there and in the Fisher's Island Sound. If I were to find a suitable Pilot in the next months, would you be able to do some restoration work on her? Also, are you aware of any Pilots for sale in anywhere near the shape of the boat you restored?
I am located in Princeton, NJ.
Thanks.
Irv
Welcome Aboard ........ I do know that the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot (4 Sale ) in Cape May.NJ ..... Is in Very Good Cond. !
In talking to Tom Van Duyne today he had express interest in doing Restoration work on small boats in his "Van Duyne Surf Boat Shop" ...... I have sem-retired and no longer do restoration work . Thank You for your kind words on my past restoration work/projects , it is greatly appreiated ....... :)
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Thanks, Joe. I haven't been able to locate the listing for the Cape May boat. Can you help?
Best regards,
Irv
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Herk,
Do you have any pictures of your boat that you could post?
Best regards,
Irv
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I have a red Harbor Pilot in Cape May, NJ for sale if anyone is interested. Yanmar Diesel. New trailer. Herk Wetherill (609) 884 7927
I have not seen a boat listing on herk's pilot . But give him a call , he will either pick up the phone or will return your call ......
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cont..... " My Buddy "
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My Original Red Cushions - found a new home .....
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cont..... given to " My Buddy "
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cont....... " My Buddy "
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cont....... " My Buddy "
Tom used his pilot a few evening ago to tow one of his " Surf Boats " ...... He stated it was a picture perfect evening , wishing someone would take a foto of the sunset in the back ground of the Pilot in tow with the Surf Boat cruising the back bays.......
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cont...." My Buddy "
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Is there more to the story?
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Is there more to the story?
YUP > " Sandy " ........ he is going to Restore the Launch !
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Top Deck & Hull grounded from " Sandy waves "......
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cont..... Custom Launch
Thats a great little hull .....
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That IS a great hull. That's why I'm going to do it again! I just don't know if I'm going with a diesel this time or an electric inboard. Decisions, decisions...
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That IS a great hull. That's why I'm going to do it again! I just don't know if I'm going with a diesel this time or an electric inboard. Decisions, decisions...
Do you plan on taking any long trips ? How many hours a year do you put on a engine ?
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Merry Christmas
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YES > its the ELUSIVE 1974 HULL # 5
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Joe,
I usually put a couple of dozen hours a year on the boat cruising the Toms River. I don't take it out of the water so I can use it year round. It had an outboard on a bracket when the boat was a sailboat. I re-opened the motor well in the back and had a 5 hp Tohatsu short shaft engine in there. It spun 360*making the boat extremely maneuverable like the Duffy electric boat with a Z drive.The boat made around 7 knots max hull speed in forward or reverse before the transom would start to squat down and water would start sloshing though the outboard well. Last year I replaced the engine with a 10 hp Johnson to see if it would make the boat perform any better. It was no better. The hull speed was the same, but I lost the ability to maneuver the boat the same as with the Tohatsu because engines over 5 hp don't rotate more than about 45*in either direction.
This year I didn't use the boat more than a couple of times because I opened a boat repair shop and started buying vintage and antique Chris Craft mahogany runabouts to restore. Then in May I got the opportunity to purchase a 32' 1950 Morton Johnson boat called Black Tom. After stripping and repainting the hull and bottom, installing hydraulic steering and rehabbing the two Chrysler Crown motors, I found it easier to get the wife and two little kids to go for a boat ride on that boat.
The Herreschoff is going to take a little time to restore now that the locals here at the Jersey shore are getting their insurance claims going for their boats. It seems like everyone with a Boston Whaler had them wash up into a marsh somewhere and want their boat in the water ready for action May 1st.
I uploaded a couple more shots of Lola and Black Tom to the flickr photo stream and may go take another pic of her today, half full of water at the TRYC and not hurting one bit.
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The Herreschoff is going to take a little time to restore now that the locals here at the Jersey shore are getting their insurance claims going for their boats. It seems like everyone with a Boston Whaler had them wash up into a marsh somewhere and want their boat in the water ready for action May 1st.
Isn't that the truth....... Give Tom Van Duyne a call at his "VAN DUYNE Surf Boat Shop " 609-625-0299....5112 OAKWD BLVD,MAYS LANDING, NJ ...... He is willing to do restoration work on small boats like your Herreshoff ......
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I'm thinking about taking a ride to Cape May,NJ > tomorrow to visit Hull #5 ? and maybe have dinner at " The Lobster House ''......
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Hull # 5 in Cape May.NJ >has a name ........
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Happy New Year !!!!!!!
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cont...... " Olive Oyl "
Cat Seating
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cont.......Olive Oyl
Yanmar diesel 2YM15
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cont....Olive Oyl
Note the pie plate access hole on the port side of the engine hatch cover > its where the depth finder transducer unit is glued to the inside of the hull......
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" Up For Sale " - TSPHP0450674 = Nowak & Williams Yard , HULL # 45 , MONTH JUNE , YEAR 1974 ....... $ 10,000.00
Tom's Pilot , it has the Original Bronze Anchor Light Hardware > which is very hard to find on these Pilot's .Two Front Custom Pop-Out Windows , A nice Pin-Stripe in the White Boot Stripe and its a Green Color Hull which i believe to be the rarest of the color hulls pilots.
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I talked to Tom , today and he stated that his Pilot is still for SALE !!!!!!!
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Hi Joe,
Where is Tom's boat located? Are there any pictures anywhere?
Those look like Southern clouds to me!
Thanks.
Irv
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Tom's Herreshoff Harbor Pilot is located in Melbourne, FL. He replaced the orginial Atomic 4 Gas engine with a Used Westerbeke 30 hp diesel a few years ago , I'm told his pilot needs a little TLC ! There are pic's of his Pilot on this forum .
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Tom's Pilot ......
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Thanks Joe.
Irv
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Hi Joe,
I found the pics on the forum. Thanks for the heads-up.
That mast looks as though it was never set up for a steadying sail. It appears to be mounted on the cabin roof and serves only as an anchor light mast. Was that an option from the builder?
Thanks.
Irv
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Wow - I never notice that short mast before , but its all orginial from the factory, I can tell from the orginial anchor light and the wooden part of the aluminum mast.....
Obviously its a Custom short mast without a Boom built for the Pilot by the Builder.....
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There is another Custom Pilot .....
1981 Squadron Yacht ( Hull#118 ) - Herreshoff Harbor Pilot with " OPEN " Cabin .....
I wish I still had Pictures of this OPEN Custom Cabin Model Herreshoff 18 Harbor Pilot .... It's the only one I've ever seen , but the owner of the boat asked to have it Remove , because I had Not obtain his permission to post his boat on his forum . OH , well win some lose some .... Cardinal Joe
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HULL # 45 ......... 1974
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What's wrong with this statement below : ????
Squadron Yachts Inc Boat Manufacturer in Bristol
Key Facts
Company Name
Company Name Squadron Yachts Inc
Current status of company
Company Status Out of Business
Date In Business 11/16/1977
Date Out of Business 12/1/1982 Boats Specialized in and Services Provided
Products Sailboats- (with or without engine) Catamarans- Trimarans
Manufacturer Identification Code XUH
Contact Information
Contact Name Bigelow, H J
Phone (401) 253-3300
Address 23 Broad Common Rd
City Bristol
Compare Bristol, RI Boat Manufacturers
State or Province RI
Compare RI Boat Manufacturers
Zip or Postal Code 2809
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Date In Business 11/16/1977 - WRONG DATE !
My Squadron Yachts Pilot Manufacturer in Bristol , RI is a 1974/1975 > Hull #'s states 1974 , but the title states 1975 ....
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1974 sounds more like it. My Lola is a Nowalk and Williams, built in 1970. I think they went out of business in 1974.
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Correct > Nowalk and Williams, went out of business in 1974 , but i thought the first Pilot was built in 1974 ? Do you remember the Hull # for " Lola " , even better do you have a copy of the Hull VIN # ?
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There was no hull # or any markings on it other than a NJ HIN plate attached to he transom. I thought it was a 74 but when I got the title from the state it was titled as a 1970. It had a pretty rough gel coated cabin top so I think it may be an early hull.
I'm taking the interior liner out this week now that it is down at my shop and the deck is off. The seam along the flange is easy to access with a Dremel multi-tool. When it's out, I'll look for any old plates or IDs that may have wedged in the liner over the years. I found some old 70's stuff when I was retrofitting it, but no builder plate.
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There are 1970 Herreshoff hulls but they were the " America " model hull .....
What is the full VIN # on the NJ Title ?
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Poss. another Herreshoff Harbor Pilot for Sale ?
Update on an old email from May 25, 2010.....
1984 Squadron Yacht Harbor Pilot
Joseph Cannavo <jcannavo@gmail.com>
Jan 17 (4 days ago)
to mearo_2003
Do you still have your Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ? What is the Hull # ?
From: Hycoop Mearo [mearo_2003@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:29 PM
To: joec@cardinalyachts.com
Subject: herreshoff 18'
Joe,
I have a 1984 Squadron Yacht Harbor Pilot that is slowly being fixed up. I have cleaned and climbed all around the boat and have never found a brass plate. Where is it located? Was it an option on some models? The boat has traveled from Cape Cod to Texas to Alabama over the years maybe it was removed.
Any Ideas?
Thanks,
Steve
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Hycoop Mearo
Jan 19 (2 days ago)
to me
I still have it, I have used it about 3 times in the last 2 years. Do you know anyone who might be interested in it?
Hull Number is ACJHP113M84E what can you tell me about the boat.
I will send some pictures when I turn on the old commuter. Cheeres
From: Joseph Cannavo <jcannavo@gmail.com>
To: mearo_2003@yahoo.com
Cc: Joseph Cannavo <jcannavo@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:21 PM
Subject: 1984 Squadron Yacht Harbor Pilot
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Brass & Bronze Hardware from a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot .....
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This is an Old post from Jan. 2010 , that I just found tonight .......
Riggo
Registered Member
Posts: 1
HA 18
« on: January 29, 2010, 05:09:23 PM »
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Hi - I have a '78 HA 18, and it has an external 110 volt receptacle (not 30 amp shorepower). Is this a battery charger?
Thanks!
Adam
Administrator
Registered Member
Posts: 1161
Re: HA 18
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2010, 09:01:58 PM »
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More likely an inverter...
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Cont...... Olive Oyl > Wooden Boarding Ladder - that mounts on outside of the hull to board pilot and stores by folding in half an hangs on inside of cabin door .....
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cont...... Olive Oyl - Folding Wooden Boarding Ladder
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Looking to Purchase a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot .....
bob.shipman <bob.shipman@earthlink.net>
7:13 PM (20 hours ago)
to me
Hello Joe. My name is Bob Shipman, retired and long time sailor, sail an H12 1/2. I'm a Herreshoff "nut" I guess.
I would very much like to find a Harbor Pilot to buy, in reasonable condition, location not important. Do you or would you serve as a broker? How is the best way to go about a search?
Help please!!
Bob Shipman
(713) 443-9393
2985 Highway 39
Hunt, TX 78024
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Joe C <jcannavo@gmail.com>
11:15 AM (5 hours ago)
to bob.shipman
Hi, Bob - There are three presently on the market ! Have you checked out the Herreshoff Registry under herreshoff 18 .
Sent from my iPhone
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Joe - I know its a long shot - but Mr Shipman say's he sails a 12 1/2 - can you ask him if its Wood - and if so the hull number?
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Joe,
I can't find any registry category for 18's. Am I looking in the wrong place?
Thanks.
Irv
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Irv - The registry is for historical documentation of the original Herreshoff Mfg. company built boats (1878-1945). We have this forum for those that want to discuss Herreshoff designs by later builders.
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Thanks Adam. So what registry is Joe talking about?
Best regards,
Irv
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Irv - this is the Registry...... Herreshoff Design not built by HMCo .
Discussions of boats constructed to a Herreshoff design by a builder other than the Herreshoff Manufacturing Company
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Thanks Joe.
I'm still not clear on how to locate 18's for sale. I know of two, but is there a third on this site?
Thanks
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Irv - which two do you know of , I'll try an help you in your search for a Pilot .....
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Do you know of Hull # 113 ? 1984 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ......
Hycoop Mearo
Jan 19 (2 days ago)
to me
I still have it, I have used it about 3 times in the last 2 years. Do you know anyone who might be interested in it?Hull Number is ACJHP113M84E what can you tell me about the boat.
I will send some pictures when I turn on the old commuter. Cheeres
From: Joseph Cannavo <jcannavo@gmail.com>
To: mearo_2003@yahoo.com
Cc: Joseph Cannavo <jcannavo@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:21 PM
Subject: 1984 Squadron Yacht Harbor Pilot
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Hi Joe,
I know of Olive Oyl and the one in Florida. Are there others?
Thanks for your help.
Irv
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Hi Joe,
I know of Olive Oyl and the one in Florida. Are there others?
Thanks for your help.
Irv
Do you know of Hull # 113 ? 1984 Herreshoff Harbor Pilot ......
I think its home port is Milton, Pa. ?
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Joe - I know its a long shot - but Mr Shipman say's he sails a 12 1/2 - can you ask him if its Wood - and if so the hull number?
Bob Shipman
Feb 2 (3 days ago)
to me
Hi Joe, my fiberglass H12 1/2 was built by Cape Cod Shipbuilding in 2006, hull number 609.
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Joe,
I saw Hycoop Mearo's post, but no pictures. Has he sent any?
Irv
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Nope ...... I'm going to email him .....
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Joseph Cannavo <jcannavo@gmail.com>
10:17 PM (23 hours ago)
to mearo_2003
Hi , Hycoop - a possible buyer is asking for pictures of your pilot . Thanks Cardinal Joe
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Hycoop Mearo
1:29 PM (8 hours ago)
to me
Attached find some old photos of the boat. It did not have the mast when I bought it in 2005.
This is not what it looks like today, I had an aluminum top put on last year. I will have to pull the tarps off and take some pictures of the boat with the top.
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Hycoop Mearo
1:29 PM (8 hours ago)
to me
Attached find some old photos of the boat. It did not have the mast when I bought it in 2005.
This is not what it looks like today, I had an aluminum top put on last year. I will have to pull the tarps off and take some pictures of the boat with the top.
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Atlantic City Boat Show was off by 50% on its attendance. New York , Massachusetts and Connecticut buyers did not attend this past weekend ......
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cont... of "Harbour Lite" > Hycoop Mearo - Herreshoff Harbor Pilot .....
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Hi Joe,
Do you have additional information on this boat-engine, condition, location, price? The owner mentions somewhere on the Forum that he has been engaged in restoration for many years, including, apparently, replacing the roof with aluminum?!?!
Thanks for your help.
Irv
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Still waiting for updates on " Harbor Lite " ...... :)
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Thanks, Joe. Your help is much appreciated.
Irv
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plawrence@proenterpriz.com via p3slh017.shr.phx3.secureserver.net
Jan 29
to me
Hi Joe...it has been a while since we last communicated.
I am well into the Integrity restoration project. I'll post some pictures in a week or so to show how the project is coming.
Squadron Yachts - " Scout " ........
I have a question that I hope you can help me with...Squadron Yachts used a copper drain fitting that they epoxied to rigid 1/2" and 3/4" tubing to drain various areas of the Scout. I am replacing some of the drains with larger ones but would like to add a couple more like what was used. Do you know where these can be purchased? I cannot find them anywhere.
Thanks,
Phil Lawrence
(616) 402-4300
4300
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Adam or Steve - Any ideas on where Phil could obtain a Copper drain tube plug ?...........
I only that one of these copper drain tube plug in my Pilot . It was in good cond. so , I never replace it , it was located in the Keel of the hull just before the transmission unit , which was the lowest point of the bottom of the hull . It couldn't be seen if looking at the hull out of the water on land , unless you climbed under the hull and really looked for it !
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Do these drains have plugs? Could you use peened over and well-bedded copper tubing? Perhaps a picture would help.
Best regards,
Irv
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Do these drains have plugs? Could you use peened over and well-bedded copper tubing? Perhaps a picture would help.
Best regards,
Irv
NO Plug ! ........ Yes, it is possilbe that a peened over and well-bedded copper tubing may work.
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Updated Pic's - " Harbour Lite " ........
from
Hycoop Mearo
mearo_2003@yahoo.com
Joe,
Attached are some pictures with the aluminum top, I do not have any canvas for it ( it is still a work in progress). It was just too hot to use the boat in the summer without some kind of shade. I don’t know how much of a project you are looking for. The boatis a 1984 pilot it has a 2 cylinder Yanmar. The hull is sound and the engine run good, trailer is galvinized with good tires. I never had the mast and boom for the boat.
Cheers,
Skip
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That looks like a lot of weight aloft. Any idea what the canopy frame weighs?
Is this boat seriously for sale? Where is it located?
Best regards,
Irv
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That looks like a lot of weight aloft. Any idea what the canopy frame weighs?
Is this boat seriously for sale? Where is it located?
Best regards,
Irv
Irv - I forward your questions to the seller .
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If you ask me if you added a canvas to that thing you turn it back into the America Catboat.... :o
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I'd worry about changing the righting moment. Oops! Over she goes...
Best regards,
Irv
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Bimini Folding Top
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Cont. - " Harbour Lite " .......
1984 pilot it has a 2 cylinder Yanmar.
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Wonder if the wooden molding around the inside cabin window was an option ?
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Another Picture with Wooden Trim around the Cabin Windows ......
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To set the record straight on canopies and bimini tops I refer you to any picture of a steam launch, a bow rider or a chesapeake deadrise workboat. Any of these would have a lightweight aluminum frame or a lightweight douglas fir frame. The weight is usually under 50 pounds. The canvas covering weighs about 10 pounds.
My boat Lola as an America Cat had a 75 pound aluminum mast standing 25' plus into the air. When the 20 pound sail is set the material is vertical to the wind and creates the windage that allows for laminar flow of air and forward motion of the boat.
In contrast, the horizontal application of a canopy top is in line with the wind direction( which is also horizontal most of the time). I have read posts where people express concern that a good breeze could flip a powerboat or lift it into the air. When you are on a boat with any type of canopy, you do not consider that the top might be unbalanced because you realize you are in a boat that weighs a couple of thousand pounds and that the center of effort is below the waterline and that stability is not really affected in the least.
My goal with Lola before she was turned into a project boat by Sandy was an open launch with canopy top. It was to have an aluminum frame with the striped surrey top like the launches of the 19th century. I didn't invent the idea, I got the idea after seeing a beautiful Herreshoff electric launch a few years back.
Now that I'm rebuilding Lola in my shop, upside down with the deck off and the liner removed. The layout and drive system are going to be unique to the hull type and will be installing a surrey top with douglas fir frames and bronze flanges and fittings. It will look more traditional than the boat above, but will be no more dangerous or top heavy than any boat with a top that you se on the water any day of the week.
As far as being top heavy and having a lot of windage that can adversely affect navigation, I refer you to the photo's Joe has posted of a blue launch with a full cabin enclosure. I believe a boat like that has lost a good deal of initial stability with the height of the cabin and had increased the windage to the point of being difficult to operate in any decent cross wind. Is the boat pretty? yes. Is it stable? I don't think so.
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It seems to me that the whole idea of a steadying sail on boats like these is to fill alternately one side and then the other to dampen snap rolling in a beam sea. Canopies that are in line with the cabin top, or "horizontal" as noted above have no such function. Round bilge boats like the Pilot tend to roll in a rather gentle motion, though some may find such motion sickening after a while. My concern, especially with the boat above, is that the aluminum structure appears to be very heavy. Any rolling would seem to be exacerbated in a beam sea because of that weight. I also wonder about that single point attachment to the covering boards. That location will be getting a very large amount of forward and aft movement in the normal use of the boat. That area would be very prone to failure, it seems to me.
I think the best solution for most users would be a Bimini top as shown folded in one of Joe's pictures. Simple to deploy and furl, and very light in weight.
Best regards,
Irv
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By the way, Joe, there's a Chris Craft ladder like Herk's for sale on Ebay.
Irv
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eBay item # 350727914104
VINTAGE ANTIQUE MAHOGANY WOOD CHRIS CRAFT BOAT NAUTICAL LADDER & BRACKETS .....
Current Bid is > $103.51
I can't copy the picture of this Chris Craft Ladder on eBay its protected by Auctiva !
Description :
I believe this is a Classic Chris Craft Boarding Ladder. It appears to be made of mahogany with original aluminum fittings and brackets. When closed, the ladder measures approx. 30.5" l (including bracket) x 15" w x 7.5" d. When open it is approx. 51.25" long. The ladder appears to be in excellent as found vintage condition. There are no cracks, chunks, or major damage.... just the expected signs of use and wear..... just as there should be.
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The job of a steadying sail is to keep the boat heeled slightly over to leeward like a sailboat when the wind is blowing and the sea is rolling. Without getting into a discussion on how sailboats and sails work, the sail doesn't flop from side to side, rather the wind keeps hitting it from basically one side or the other, depending on wether the wind is on the port or starboard side of the boat The mast and sail are very small so they don't overpower the boat as it's motoring along as a motorsailer and serve to keep the boat heeled to one side to a manageable degree since you can let the sail out or take it in to get the necessary benefit and reduce rolling.
As far as the horizontal canopy, it is there to provide shade and protection from rain. These canopies have been used for thousands of years, at least. If they performed as you are thinking presently, then the owners of the above boats would have removed them before they sank their boats. Correct? The frame is very light in respect to the boat it is covering and has no negative affect on the performance of the vessel in any way. In all my 40+years of boating, I have never seen any instance of a canopy doing anything other than offering protection from the sun or rain. Even with side curtains of clear vinyl installed, I have never seen or heard of a boat flipping, capsizing, etc.
You may have the idea of the canopy as the Brontosaurus steak the waitress put on Fred Flintstone's car at the beginning of the Flintstone's. That 200 lb. steak couldn't have displaced the car with stone tires and all those people. Think more of a canopy mounted to the basket of a tour elephant in India. The wind can blow, the elephant will keep right on walking.
The canopy stanchions in the photo are first mounted to flanges on the cockpit sole as well as the inboard side of the coaming. That eliminates any fore and aft movement of the superstructure, which is very little on this hull type. These hulls cut the water with their narrow, plumb bow cutting the water just below the turn of the stem, bow up, and keep a sharp v angle for 4 or 5 feet before bellying out to almost 8 feet at the beam waterline and leaving off at over 4 feet at the transom. That makes for a boat that doesn't pitch back and forth over it's beam(unless it's an America cat motoring into a heavy chop, the weight of the mast aloft gets a bit of pitch going).
If you want to see some classic canopy tops for boats, you can google search surrey tops or steam launches and click on the images icon near the top and it should display countless boats and their tops. Duffy boats has boats of this length and have both canopy tops as well as full cabin enclosures.
If you go with a Bimini top, they are lightweight, retract easily and are readily available from retail marine stores. How can you go wrong with that, Irv???
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With respect, I noted that a Bimini top would be very useful and entirely appropriate. Too, the full enclosures shown in subsequent pictures (Is that a Pilot?), seem fine, and would not affect the boat's safety or operation. I would not take a boat so equipped into any kind of sea, but for placid river cruises in wind and rain, it would be fine. I must respectfully disagree slightly on your assessment of a steadying sail. Often, on offshore deliveries of sailboats up to 70 feet, we have left the main fully deployed in rolling seas, but with no wind. As the boat rolls, the sail fills and dumps air, thus slowing the roll to a manageable and comfortable degree. It can be noisy,as it flops about, but the sail eases the motion. Even on my 20 foot Caledonia Yawl, the mizzen and main slow the roll somewhat when motoring in a beam sea with no wind.
My original concern had to do with the arrangement on Harborlite, as shown in Joe's posting. That looks to be a very heavy frame built of square aluminum that is anchored at only one point on the washboard on each side. I would be very concerned about that single-point arrangement working loose in a sea and tearing the washboard out, and even causing injury to passengers, should it fall without warning. My experience in tuna towers in a beam sea, while much higher and in heavier rolling, suggests to me that the torsional forces at work can be extreme. I wonder if such forces, while certainly less extreme, might doom that apparatus to failure.
Best regards,
Irv
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I'd have to agree with Mr. MacDowell..... I have spent many a day and night on my Albemarle in strong winds and heavy seas and can attest to the amount of "sailing" she would do with the heavy hardtop and full curtains and the engine off. Even docking can be a challenge with this set-up if the winds are from the wrong direction....In the North East - where these Novi/Catboat type hulls are prevalent - the conditions match these hulls very nicely.... One you start adding canvas and hardtops I think they become compromised somewhat and you begin relegating them to the sheltered areas. And if that is your location conditions – then it’s fine. Before I would add any large hardtop/canvas type set-up I’d ask the original designer what he/she thinks – in this case a call to Herreshoff Designs would probably give peace of mind for a project of this sort...
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I don't think I saw the photo of Harbor Light, now I know exactly why you are saying that rig is heavy, poorly designed, etc. My sincere apology. I think the Brontosaurus steak would definitely take that one down. As far as the steadying sail, I have only seen them used underway in a breeze. I don't personally leave sails up to reduce rolling since I race sailboats in sheltered waters and the condition of the sails are most important. We try to keep the sails from flapping or flopping as much as possible to keep the resins that bind the weave together from breaking, so the shape of the sail doesn't blow out.
If I had a cruiser I might just leave the main up. Does the boom have to swing from side to side to help counter the roll or if the sail does most of the work can you keep the boom hauled to one side?
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In a moderate sea, and very light winds, under power, the main is kept 'midships and the downhaul tight. With some wind, motor sailing, the traveler might be moved slightly outward. These are very heavily-built cruising sails, so potential damage is minimal to non existent.
Irv
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Good answer, Irv. You know what you are talking about. Now I do too.
The boats with the canopy tops are definitely inshore cruisers.
Adam, I don't want to sink my boat with a canopy this time, so I'll take your advice and call Hereeshoff Designs. They might tell me to keep it low and open like it's been in the past. I just wish I hadn't sold the mast, the swing from that pole offset the waves nicely. I never needed the sail set when motoring.
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Launch,
Thanks for the kind words. The folks who built my Caledonia Yawl outside of Seattle, Grapeview Point Boatworks, have on their website a picture of the Nelson Zimmer launch that Tom and Susanne built a couple of years ago. I was aboard her last winter when I flew out to arrange final details on my build. Tom built her as an electric, and originally she was an all open boat. Because Seattle is temperate, though very wet in winter, Tom added an all around enclosure built of wood and plexiglass for winter and spring use. If you go to their website, grapeviewpointboatworks.com, you can see pictures of the boat with its enclosure and without.
Best regards,
Irv
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I've had their web site saved as a favorite for years now. Your Caledonia Yawl is also one of the best looking designs going. The Zimmer was one of the inspirations for converting my sailboat hull to power launch. Then I came across this website thanks to Cardinal Joe posting tons of great info about the Harbor Pilot.
Good luck in the search for a Pilot, the hull is great
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1984 Pilot ................ HULL # 113
Hycoop Mearo
Mar 1 (12 days ago)
to me
Joe,
This is the Hull Number for my boat is ACTHP113M84E
Do you have any other pictures of other Harbour Pilot with a top, the 2 on the web site were helpful.
The only one I ever saw was in Orange Beach, Al.
Thanks,
Skip
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Hi Joe,
Based on Hycoop's latest posts, it would appear that his boat is not for sale after all.
Best regards,
Irv
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H-18 Catboat
Jim Cole <jcole@commandalkon.com>
4:43 PM (1 hour ago)
to me
I Hi Joe,
I just purchased an H-18 locally and will pick up the boat next week. Very thrilled with the boat. Needs restored, will be my retirement project when I retire. Information on the boat is not readily available, so thought you might be able to send me in the correct direction with your knowledge:
Is any one making spare parts for the boat. Found 1 E-mail that said that someone had purchased the molds but did not provide the new owners name. I did locate the OEM sail maker.
Do you have any idea who may have supplied the navigation lanterns as seen on the brochure and also one of the boats in the pictures. Would be a really nice addition to the boat.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
James F. Cole
Materials Manager
Command Alkon
5168 Blazer Parkway
Dublin, Ohio 43017
Phone 614-923-5260
Fax 614-793-0608
Jcole@commandalkon.com
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The H-18 catboat - purchase above by Jim Cole <jcole@commandalkon.com> is an " AMERCIA " ....... , an NOT a PILOT Model .......
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The molds for the America are owned by Com-PAC yachts. It was used to make their (highly modified) "Horizon cat". My understanding is they are in very bad shape and could not be used again. There is a fairly large support community for the America and things like templates for rudder and centerboard are readily available. Marshall Marine (Marshall Cats) has been known to support some custom items like Masts and rigging as well. And don't forget the original designer - Herreshoff Designs.
http://www.com-pacyachts.com/trailerable-catboats/horizon-cat.html
http://www.marshallcat.com/
http://herreshoffdesigns.com/
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Adam - Thanks for your input ...... Greatly Appreciated ! :)
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Trailer - set up for the Herreshoff 18 Hull ......
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Joe, I am Hull Number 5. I am thinking around 11,000 with the trailer.
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Olive Oyl ( Hull # 5 ) with Trailer > has been " REDUCED To $6000.00 FIRM " !!!!!!!!!!!!! PS > the Trailer cost $2000.00 and it has a , Yanmar diesel 2YM15 .....
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Olive Oyl ......... " DIESEL with Fresh Water Heat Exchanger Unit "
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Joe,
Thanks for posting this up in the forum.
Herk (609) 884-7927
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Herk - has the BOOM in his garage along with Wooden Boarding Ladder .....
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Do the Math on OLIVE OYL > FIRM Price of $6000.00 - $2000.00 (Trailer) = $ 4000.00 for a Herreshoff Harbor Pilot with a Diesel engine that is in Excellent Running Condition !!!! WOW........ Yes , she needs a little TLC on the Wood Work and I felt one little soft spot on the deck floor , that will need attn. in the furture , but that was it , Its basically a " Turn Key Boat " ........
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OLIVE OYL = BRASS HINGES ON INSIDE OF WOODEN DOOR FOR STORAGE OF CUSTOM WOODEN LADDER .
(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd432/jcannavo/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/photokh2_zpsf3af0e05.jpg)
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OLIVE OYL - NEW 12 GAL. FUEL TANK UNDER THE CAT SEATING IN THE STERN IN FRONT OF THE RUDDER ...
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jvandalind@aol.com
Mar 29
to me
I just came across an old Herreshoff Forum and I think you are, or was, the owner of that beautiful 18' Pilot. I have one that I think is a Fisherman or a Pilot that someone modified. It is called Cup Cake. I have attached a photo and I would be happy to send you more and include my story if you would like.
CUP CAKE
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vandalind@aol.com
Mar 30
to me
Hi Joe,
Yes, a center console. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't a Pilot as there is evidence of fiberglass repair on the port side. I have attached a few photos and will send a few more in a separate email.
I bought the boat in Erie, PA about 10 years ago and dragged it to Boston. I used for a couple of seasons and put it in storage for quite a while. In the past couple of years I replaced the engine beds, replaced the 40hp Gray with a newer 25hp Gray. I sent the 25hp to Van Ness Engineering to be rebuilt. New canvass and rebuilt the rudder recently. The cushions are original and in great shape. Next, I'd like to put a little diesel in it. I hate to think how much $$ I have into Cup Cake that I know I will never get back.
Was yours redone in Annapolis? Do you still have it? Happy Easter.
Jerry
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Cup Cake .......
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Cup Cake.......
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Herreshoff Harbor Pilot 18 | $12,500
This is a very rare boat, built in the Nowak and Williams's yard in Bristol, Rhode Island in the early 1970's. It is a perfect gentleman's launch/picnic boat for cocktail cruises on your favorite lake or river. The huge cockpit easily seats 6 people.
(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd432/jcannavo/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/h1_zpsa5092b05.jpg)
It has an " OUTBOARD MOTOR '' for Power .................. :o
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http://harborpilot18.com/ (http://harborpilot18.com/)
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Harbor Pilot 18' fuel tank
Hycoop Mearo
Jun 10 (3 days ago )
to me
Joe,
I saw on the web site a photo of a Harbor Pilot with the fuel tank mounted under the seat in the stern.
Do you have any other information about this installation?
Thanks,
Steve
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In a moderate sea, and very led lighting (http://www.niceledlights.com) winds, under power, the main is kept 'midships and the downhaul tight. With some wind, motor sailing, the traveler might be moved slightly outward. These are very heavily-built cruising sails, so potential damage is minimal to non existent.
Irv
You have right.. These sails are nicely built and even I own one of the sailing boats.. Will share pics next time
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I'm on vacation again > started trip to Stowe , VT boated 3 days on Lake Champlain , lots of beautiful home on both the New York side & the Vermont side , all the Marinas are full with transit Canadian vessels coming down from Canada.
Lots of old time history on this lake going back to " Benedict Arnold " fighting the British Warships ! I saw the small Island that Benedict and his small fleet of ships hid behind > can't remember the name began with a V ..... ? Anyway No Herreshoff's on the water ?????
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Well , I'm back in Southwest Harbor , Maine ..... Spotted Herreshoff's in Bar Harbor , Northeast Harbor and Southwest Harbor , but No Herreshoff Harbor Pilots !!!!
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Well , back on vacation again , heading to Key West for the month of Feb. with my buddy Dave and "!The Pug Tug " ( was my Pilot that I Sold to Dave ) . Departed from Tuckerton , New Jersey trailer the Pilot 775 miles before the trailer , blew a bearing & hub , tried to ride on three wheels and another bearing & hub when , called a flatbed Tow Truck in the town of Santee , SC . Had the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot towed to this town which remind me of Mayberry RFD on TV . Found a mechanic shop to put on 4 bearings & 4 new Hubs, I was on the road again after $1000.00 bucks in repairs . An about a mile road blew a tire out , here riding on three wheels caused the one front axle to bend up to rub against the wheelwell and blowout ,no one at the repair shop notice that the wheel was not align properly with the other three wheels ?
The pub tug and the trailer are now being flatbed to Charleston ,South Carolina to purchase a new trailer $2875.00 ! Well Dave and I are in Key West waiting for the pug tug to be flatbed from the Hicktown of Mayberry RFD to Charleston It will take a couple days to outfit the trailer and then have it delivered to the keys , I still have to get a price on transport but it's 15 hours one way and I'm not doing it ! Cardinal Joe
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Who's this Cardinal Joe Guy? 8)
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Ha, ha !!!! I guess it's been awhile ....
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As this thread seems to be the main discussion point for the Harbor Pilots, I thought I would take a moment to introduce mine. I have a red ?1978 Harbor Pilot which has lived its life within a ten mile radius of its birthplace in Bristol RI. Based on the hull ID and builder's plate, it appears to have been built by Tillotson Pearson (hull) and finished at Squadron Yachts in Bristol RI. Not far from Halsey Herreshoff's office and home.
I am the fourth owner. It was originally (I am told) used by the harbor master in Newport. The next owner repowered with a Yanmar 3GM30F (now with almost 500hrs) and replaced and moved the fuel tank. The third owner was a neighbor who used it a few years and then upgraded to a small lobster yacht. I acquired the boat after selling a 36ft sailboat and intended to use it to cruise around Narragansett Bay. I did exactly that for a couple of years then got the hankering for a sailboat again and therefore this fine vessel has been on the hard under a tarp behind my barn for the past six or seven years.
The Pilot is a very stout little ship and has zero problems with the afternoon chop in a 20 knot breeze. It is cat boat beamy so very stable as well. Not sure how much difference the riding sail makes to stability but it sure looks salty when rigged. My cruising is done mostly at six knots or so. I know the engine is about twice the horsepower of the original powerplant (actually the same motor as on my former 36ft sailboat) but this is a displacement vessel so it really doesn't make much sense to try to push the boat at much more than six knots which it does easily at about 1500rpm in flat water as I recall.
I've pondered selling it for the past few years as I just haven't the time for two boats but have also just acquired a second mooring in a very convenient spot so will try to get it launched and see if it gets used more than before. I've started to recommission the boat starting with a thorough cleaning of the fuel tank and replacement of all filters, fluids, belts, coolant hoses, batteries, water pump impeller, zincs and lubricating or replacing engine control cables. Then comes a new bilge pump. I anticipate giving her a fresh coat of red interlux after attending to accumulated minor dings. The old depth meter doesn't work and is no longer made. Might replace it but a depth meter here in RI with mostly sandy bottoms and an 18" draft is not critical so that task may be postponed. Other than cleaning up the cabin I doubt I will have time this year to fancy up the woodwork and I am not one who really likes to fuss over perfect varnish anyways so I'll leave the weathered teak alone. I only use the trailer to move the boat a mile to the launch pad but that also needs a bit of TLC and new brakes. Projects, projects, projects....
I'll try to link some photos in Flickr.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118591836@N06/14291875865/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118591836@N06/14105224568/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118591836@N06/14291353654/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118591836@N06/14105240560/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118591836@N06/14105255080/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118591836@N06/14105276780/
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Custom Herreshoff Harbor Pilot
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This is the pilot bought years ago! Where did you find these old photos. Still trying to learn about the factory design custom job. It was a factory job. No question. Engine compartment was modified for gas engine, but everything else looks original build.
Kirk.
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Here is a video I posted years ago. If anyone is seriously interested in it let me know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHIFJB0psfE
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As this thread seems to be the main discussion point for the Harbor Pilots, I thought I would take a moment to introduce mine. I have a red ?1978 Harbor Pilot which has lived its life within a ten mile radius of its birthplace in Bristol RI. Based on the hull ID and builder's plate, it appears to have been built by Tillotson Pearson (hull) and finished at Squadron Yachts in Bristol RI. Not far from Halsey Herreshoff's office and home.
I am the fourth owner. It was originally (I am told) used by the harbor master in Newport. The next owner repowered with a Yanmar 3GM30F (now with almost 500hrs) and replaced and moved the fuel tank. The third owner was a neighbor who used it a few years and then upgraded to a small lobster yacht. I acquired the boat after selling a 36ft sailboat and intended to use it to cruise around Narragansett Bay. I did exactly that for a couple of years then got the hankering for a sailboat again and therefore this fine vessel has been on the hard under a tarp behind my barn for the past six or seven years.
The Pilot is a very stout little ship and has zero problems with the afternoon chop in a 20 knot breeze. It is cat boat beamy so very stable as well. Not sure how much difference the riding sail makes to stability but it sure looks salty when rigged. My cruising is done mostly at six knots or so. I know the engine is about twice the horsepower of the original powerplant (actually the same motor as on my former 36ft sailboat) but this is a displacement vessel so it really doesn't make much sense to try to push the boat at much more than six knots which it does easily at about 1500rpm in flat water as I recall.
I've pondered selling it for the past few years as I just haven't the time for two boats but have also just acquired a second mooring in a very convenient spot so will try to get it launched and see if it gets used more than before. I've started to recommission the boat starting with a thorough cleaning of the fuel tank and replacement of all filters, fluids, belts, coolant hoses, batteries, water pump impeller, zincs and lubricating or replacing engine control cables. Then comes a new bilge pump. I anticipate giving her a fresh coat of red interlux after attending to accumulated minor dings. The old depth meter doesn't work and is no longer made. Might replace it but a depth meter here in RI with mostly sandy bottoms and an 18" draft is not critical so that task may be postponed. Other than cleaning up the cabin I doubt I will have time this year to fancy up the woodwork and I am not one who really likes to fuss over perfect varnish anyways so I'll leave the weathered teak alone. I only use the trailer to move the boat a mile to the launch pad but that also needs a bit of TLC and new brakes. Projects, projects, projects....
I'll try to link some photos in Flickr.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118591836@N06/14291875865/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118591836@N06/14105224568/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118591836@N06/14291353654/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118591836@N06/14105240560/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118591836@N06/14105255080/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118591836@N06/14105276780/
Its Worth between $8K to $10K in today present market ......... NICE Looking Pilot .....Thanks Cardinal Joe
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“Integrity” is for Sale ...... :)
Hi Cardinal Joe,
I’m the guy that posted the “Integrity” story with the registry, November 16, 2011. I had several communications with you where you helped me with my posting.
The “Integrity” story was about finding her after 25 years and bringing her back home to Michigan for a restoration project when I retired.
Well today, eight years after she was found, she is finished and now I am selling her once again to buy a larger sailboat. She has never been launched and proudly awaits her next owner.
I have attached a complete story of her for your viewing. Could I ask you for some guidance in finding her a new home? Because of the museum restoration and her purchase price, it will take that special person who wants something different, a one-of-a-kind vessel, a signature boat of the harbor.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you…
Phil Lawrence
208 N. Harbor Dr.
Grand Haven, MI 49417
plawrence@proenterpriz.com
616 402-4300 Cell
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Hi Cardinal Joe,
Thanks for your reply and nice comments.
Is it possible to post this story on the registry in a PDF format so all the pictures stay in place?
Thanks,
Phil Lawrence
208 N. Harbor Dr.
Grand Haven, MI 49417
plawrence@proenterpriz.com
616 402-4300 Cell
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Hi, Phil > I posted your email to me up on The Herreshoff Forum today under “ herreshoff 18 , could you please post up your PDF file of the “ Integrity Story “ ,I forget how to post up this PDF file , if you have any problem with posting his PDF file on the herreshoff 18 forum then ask for Adam under the forum help . Thanks Cardinal Joe
I think so , but ask Adam he is one of the Administrators on the Herreshoff forum’s …..
On Mar 28, 2015, at 10:59 AM, Phil Lawrence <plawrence@proenterpriz.com> wrote:
Hi Cardinal Joe,
Thanks for your reply and nice comments.
Is it possible to post this story on the registry in a PDF format so all the pictures stay in place?[/b]
Thanks,
Phil Lawrence
208 N. Harbor Dr.
Grand Haven, MI 49417
plawrence@proenterpriz.com
616 402-4300 Cell
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Hi 'Cardinal Joe'
My husband and I are listing our 1974 Scout for sale.
I saw some previous posts on the Herreshoff Registry and didn't know if you knew of any one that would be interested....
I've attached some listing information...
Thank you
Ruth Silvia
1974 Herreshoff Scout Cat Ketch built by Nowack & Williams open cockpit daysailer with centerboard.
The sails are in good condition and the motor well has an 8 hp Suzuki motor with destroyer wheel style steering.
Stored on a new trailer and located in East Tennessee. $7500.
Call 305-970-6124 or silv9748@bellsouth.net for more information.
I need to remember how to post up all your pictures of your 1974 Herreshoff Scout > Cardinal Joe ?????
PS > Adam I may need some Help ...... Thanks ....
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Who the heck is this Cardinal Joe guy??? 8)
Send them to me and I'll post...
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Adam > how do I sent them to you via gmail or yahoo ?????? what is your address ? I'm is jcannavo@gmail.com :)
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He sent it to me - but I cant post a PDF - but the real issue is its 20+ pages long....Great story/read. And she's certainly a beauty with the work that he did (obviously professionally done). I'm thinking of putting it somewhere on the web and linking it, but it will take me time.
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Adam > Sounds Good ! Thanks Cardinal Joe
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1974 Herreshoff Scout Cat Ketch built by Nowack & Williams open cockpit daysailer with centerboard.
The sails are in good condition and the motor well has an 8 hp Suzuki motor with destroyer wheel style steering.
Stored on a new trailer and located in East Tennessee. $7500.
Call 305-970-6124 or silv9748@bellsouth.net for more information.
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More Pic's of > 1974 Herreshoff Scout Cat Ketch built by Nowack & Williams open cockpit daysailer with centerboard.
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Here is some lost pictures under this forum > Can you guess what model this herreshoff 18 is ?.....
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Looking for something different ?? Here she is a 1975 Herreshoff Yacht Club Launch.{the bow dodge has been replaced with a full canvas top } ...Powered with a 60 H.P. Gray Marine I.B with a manual gear.
** Note the position of the Helm Console > mounted on the Port side **
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/123901369@N08/17067965210/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/123901369@N08/17067965210/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/123901369@N08/17255523865/in/photostream/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/123901369@N08/17255523865/in/photostream/)
Note > Original Factory Hull Colors were only : Green , Red & White . any other colors are painted hulls !
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Green Hull with Custom Pop-out Front Windows;
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cont.....Green Hull for in Fla. It has a replacement diesel engine > it had an atomic 4 gas engine originally !
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Lost pictures of Herreshoff 18 Brass & Bronze Boat Hardware items :
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HERRESHOFF’S BRONZE 3-PIECE
FOLDING STOCK ANCHORS
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Licensed by the Hart Nautical Collections at M.I.T. ~ Authorized by the Herreshoff Marine Museum
After centuries of evolution, culminating with the Herreshoffs’ refinements, “The genuine Herreshoff anchor is a truly wonderful creation and has yet to be improved upon for all-around use.”* We manufacture them in high strength bronze (equal in strength to cast iron) and have added one more innovation; the stock is secured by threading it into the shank for easy, fast, neat and secure setup with no loose parts. (7½ & 21 lb. Anchors)
Perfected by Nat Herreshoff over many years, these anchors have been widely copied, but never duplicated from Herreshoff drawings until now. The 7½ pounder was standard equipment on the famous 12½s, and on Captain Nat’s personal boat Alerion III. They are ideal for small boats because they are dependable, light, easily handled, fold flat for storage, can be carried near the compass without affecting it, and they will not stain your belongings because they do not rust.
The versatility of these anchors is unparalleled. They will hold equally well in weeds, sand, mud, or rocky bottoms and unlike most modern anchors, do not bring up huge clumps of mud and weeds, and are easily cleaned. Because these anchors don’t need heavy, messy and hard to handle chain to get them to set, they are much less likely to damage your hands and topsides when brought aboard and if the weight of the chain needed by others is considered, ours equals their holding power pound for pound, are more easily stowed and, of course, much more aesthetically pleasing. Our 17lb. anchor, recently tested in Practical Sailor’s, Jan./01 Anchor Reset Tests, ranked 8th out of 17 for Holding Power (pound-for-pound) in sand, beating both the CQR & Bruce, and 6th in Setting. (More testing to come.) No wonder these anchors have continued to be popular!
* Maynard Bray and Carlton Pinheiro, Herreshoff of Bristol, Brooklin, ME; WoodenBoat Publications, 1989
7½ lb. Length 25” x 16” width x 2½” palm width (Above) $295 + $17.00 shipping (USA)
12 lb. Coming Soon
17 lb. Length 29” x 18½” width x 3 5/16” palm width $425 + $24.00 shipping (USA)
21 lb. Length 33” x 21” width x 3 9/16” palm width $525 + $35.00 shipping (USA)
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BRONZE TEARDROP RUNNING LIGHTS
Cast bronze with glass globes.
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Side Mount; 112.5° Stern; 225° Top Mount; 112.5°
Port & Starboard $125 each $125 Port & Starboard $125 each
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Door Hardware.....
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Hardware for the boom ...
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KEY WEST Trip left South Jersey around Jan. 20 it was a trip from Hell until we arrived on Feb. 1 ..... Lost 3 wheel in South Carolina , what Dave forgot to tell me.... is that the Pug Tug boat trailer had been under sea water from " SANDY " for 4 days and the new wheel bearing that I had install before selling the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot to him got compromised !!!!!
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What you don't see in the picture below, is that when the Herreshoff 18 ( Tug Pug ) was being towed up on to the flatbed the left front axle had to much weight on it from the boat & trailer which cause the axle support bar to bend ! No one notices ,so after having 4 of the Axles Hub"s and Wheel Bearing replaced . On the first trip out on Interstate I-95 a half a mile down the highway , we lost a wheel on one of the new axles hub bearing that we just replace , had to be towed back again by flatbed , we then realize that the front left axle support bar was bent and could NOT be repaired after a professional welder had inspected the trailer ( because of were it had bent on the cross bars of the trailer ) . We had the boat & trailer flatbed to Charleston from Santee NC ( 60 plus miles ) and purchased a brand new Venture bunk boat trailer from STEEL'S West Ashley Sales in Charleston>Boat Trailers , now it had to be custom fitted to the Herreshoff 18 with only a 150 lbs. of tongue weight on the towing ball hitch ! We all left Santee and continue to Key West and 3 days later the " Pug Tug" had arrival to the beginning of the Key's ( Key Largo ) were Dave met the delivery driver paid him and hooked up the new trailer & Herreshoff 18 to the Dodge Caravan and towed it to Key West !
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Seel's West Ashley Sales
Reply-To: <wasales@seelsoutboard.com>
Trailer
Joe,
I got some pics of the trailer attached. The trailer itself runs at $2195 and with tax it goes to $2381.57. Since we will have to lift the boat, etc. there will be a little labor included. With the labor it runs to $2531.57. This would be your out the door price if you got the trailer as is. The LED upgrade is $100 and the Bearing Buddies are $25.95. So your total price if you wanted these is $2668.22. We have 3 of them in stock here at the West Ashley store so getting them is no problem. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Kellen Easterby
Seel’s Outboard
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NEW VENTURE Boat TRAILER STOCK # VAB-2825
OR
VIN#47GAQD2216FB000085
INVOICE #10505 > Date 2-5-14
Customer : Joseph Cannavo
$2195.00 WITHOUT OPTIONS
WWW.SEELSOUTBOARD.COM (http://WWW.SEELSOUTBOARD.COM)
1937 Savannah Hwy.
Charleston, SC 29407
(843) 556-2742
Fax (843) 763-2162
OR other LOCATION
2910 HWY. 17 N
MT. PLEASANT , SC 29466
(843) 849-8788
FAX # (843) 849-1178
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The House in the Key's ...... Pug Tug on the backyard lift for the month of Feb. 2014 .
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Heading to Looe Key Reef 4 miles off shore> 5 feet to 60 ft.
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Looe Key Reef - Dive Spots
One of the most beautiful reefs in the Florida Keys, Looe Key Reef has large fingers of living coral extending out to sea
Looe Key Reef Photos and Links ... Florida Reef Guide; Bahia Honda State Park; Strike Zone Charters; Reef.org; NOAA Coral Reef Conservation Linkes
www.looekeyreef.org/index.html (http://www.looekeyreef.org/index.html)
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The 2nd boat from the Left is the Herreshoff 18 - " PUG TUG " up on the docking lift .....
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Another view from the house .....
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WE were anchor off this party beach in less than 2 feet of water. its also a great Sun Set beach on weekends there are over 200 boats anchored .....
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Cardinal Joe
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These guys are retired New York Firemen ( FDNY ) from 911
(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd432/jcannavo/Herreshoff%20Harbor%20pilot/IMG_0696_zps6pmamiuv.jpg).
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Dave - the owner of the " PUG TUG " just relaxing on the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot .
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Another pictures of Sun Set Beach .
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Cardinal Joe at the helm of the " PUG TUG " ..... :)
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Key West Sun Set from the " Pug Tug ".
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cont...
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cont.
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Great Cat Seating on the Herreshoff Harbor Pilot
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1976 18 foot HERRESHOFF HARBOR PILOT YACHT - $18900 (Cape Cod)
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This is a rather interesting pilot.... Seems professionally done - one of the better looking conversions I've seen - though I think the pushed the pilot house a bit to far aft for my taste. What ya' think Joe?
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1975/Nowak-%26-Williams-Modified-Harbor-Pilot-2867543/Yarmouth/ME/United-States#.VcIASflVhBc
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FWIW: Pilot for sale here- https://maine.craigslist.org/bod/5261065136.html
I have no connection to it....
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Adam > I find it hard to believe that with a 25 hp gas motor or any motor that this hull does 12-15 knot cruise ? More like 6 to 8 knot cruise .........Cardinal Joe